FCC Chair Confirms Title II Approach To Net Neutrality; AT&T Already Warming Up For Lawsuit - Polidicks

[quote]In an op-ed today, FCC chairman Tom Wheeler confirmed what sources in the know have recently been saying: to preserve net neutrality, the FCC is indeed going to seek to regulate ISPs as Title II common carriers. Writing for Wired today, Wheeler flat-out says what the rumor mill has been chewing over for weeks: “I am proposing that the FCC use its Title II authority to implement and enforce open internet protections.” “Using this authority,” Wheeler continues, “I am submitting to my colleagues the strongest open internet protections ever proposed by the FCC. These enforceable, bright-line rules will ban paid prioritization, and the blocking and throttling of lawful content and services.” That’s great news for consumers, and it’s what had been hinted at for a while now. But here’s where it gets even bigger: Wheeler also proposes to apply the exact same bright-line rules to mobile broadband as to wired. That’s one of the key three questions the FCC asked for comment on back when this all started, In his editorial, Wheeler also basically plows through all the counter-arguments one by one. Title II is too antiquated and sections don’t apply? “My proposal will modernize Title II, tailoring it for the 21st century … there will be no rate regulation, no tariffs, no last-mile unbundling.” Investment will grind to a halt (despite several different companies already saying it won’t)? “Over the last 21 years, the wireless industry has invested almost $300 billion under similar rules, proving that modernized Title II regulation can encourage investment and competition.” Congress can do a better job? “Congress wisely gave the FCC the power to update its rules to keep pace with innovation. … The action we take will be strong and flexible enough not only to deal with the realities of today, but also to establish ground rules for the as yet unimagined.” However, while this is great news for consumers — and seems to be exactly what advocates, including us and our colleagues at Consumers Union, have been asking for — ISPs are predictably unhappy. They’ve been threatening legal action if this should happen, and at least one is already out there stretching and limbering up for their court run.[/quote] So the rumors were true; the FCC intended to regulate internet as a utility. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Please include the source link, tia" - Craptasket))[/highlight]

No site blocking, no throttling, no fast lanes. Get fucked, ISPs.

FUCKING GET AT EM FCC I hope so badly it happens.

FCC is going to get placed on the list of government agencies that actually do work if they keep this up.

Screw off AT&T I want my faster internet that doesn't start acting up when someone decides to watch Netflix, thank you..

[QUOTE=draugur;47083130]FCC is going to get placed on the list of government agencies that actually do work if they keep this up.[/QUOTE] Republicans will make sure they appear anti-American sadly

[QUOTE=AkujiTheSniper;47083163]Republicans will make sure they appear anti-American sadly[/QUOTE] my parents who are republicans think that this will allow net neutrality to happen, just now they will tax/charge you even more now that its a utility.

Where's the source at?

[QUOTE=codemaster85;47083242]my parents who are republicans think that this will allow net neutrality to happen, just now they will tax/charge you even more now that its a utility.[/QUOTE] My republican grandpa says that it'll enable that dirty N- Obongo to take away our guns and spy in our homes through the internet. My anecdote is no more useful than yours. It's an established platform of the Republican party to want less/zero federal government involvement in a lot of things so their corporate sugar daddies can continue buying them things.

The internet is a vital honestly. It isn't a luxury anymore, it is something every person needs. That being said almost everything requires internet access and were gonna need something to support greater traffic and stress. If the isps actually used their money and tax breaks to build and upgrade their networks and services this wouldn't be a issue. I hope the FCC gets this to work, its really going to do good things for everyone.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;47083242]my parents who are republicans think that this will allow net neutrality to happen, just now they will tax/charge you even more now that its a utility.[/QUOTE] I'd be OK with extra taxes, as this (hopefully) will place price restrictions, so we can't be charged $60 per month for 12-15mbps that is almost never at that speed.

[QUOTE=helpiminabox;47083264]Where's the source at?[/QUOTE] [URL="http://consumerist.com/2015/02/04/fcc-chair-confirms-title-ii-approach-to-net-neutrality-att-already-warming-up-for-lawsuit/"]SOURCE[/URL]

[QUOTE=MR-X;47083289]The internet is a vital honestly. It isn't a luxury anymore, it is something every person needs. That being said almost everything requires internet access and were gonna need something to support greater traffic and stress. If the isps actually used their money and tax breaks to build and upgrade their networks and services this wouldn't be a issue. I hope the FCC gets this to work, its really going to do good things for everyone.[/QUOTE] Wanna get a job? Apply online. That's how a good portion of businesses work. Not to mention the importance and place e-mail in business communication. It's getting to a point if you don't have internet access, you will be strictly limited in opportunities and it will affect your livelihood. Internet access is almost as necessary as electricity.

I remember when all the FCC did was get miffed when people said dirty words on TV. I'm so happy they're doing something awesome and progressive. [editline]5th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=MR-X;47083289]The internet is a vital honestly. It isn't a luxury anymore, it is something every person needs. That being said almost everything requires internet access and were gonna need something to support greater traffic and stress. If the isps actually used their money and tax breaks to build and upgrade their networks and services this wouldn't be a issue. I hope the FCC gets this to work, its really going to do good things for everyone.[/QUOTE] When an awful lot of jobs require you to submit applications online you damn well better believe the internet is a necessity.

i'd like to know just what grounds the lawsuit against the regulatory agency using its existing, long court-approved jurisdiction to classify and reclassify communications and information services can stand on.... this is going to be interesting [editline]5th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;47083450] When an awful lot of jobs require you to submit applications online you damn well better believe the internet is a necessity.[/QUOTE] i don't really know of any buisnesses who don't have an online job application service anymore, even the paper makes people go through one to apply for routes [editline]5th February 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=draugur;47083284]My republican grandpa says that it'll enable that dirty N- Obongo to take away our guns and spy in our homes through the internet. My anecdote is no more useful than yours. It's an established platform of the Republican party to want less/zero federal government involvement in a lot of things so their corporate sugar daddies can continue buying them things.[/QUOTE] the republicans only want a government that regulates for buisnesses not against them, so like preventing people from suing, extreme limited liability, legal rubber-stamping of aggressive hiring practices, you know, like everything from the 1860's onwards to the 1930s [editline]5th February 2015[/editline] here's a CNN money article [url]http://money.cnn.com/2015/02/04/technology/att-fcc-letter/[/url] i love their argument 1) you cannot classify us as telecoms because you classified us as information delivery services (completely ignoring the RE part of reclassifying) 2) they cannot prove that cable providers have a monopoly in their geographical areas (um yes, yes they do, twc has submitted documents saying explicidly that they do not compete with any of their top tier compeditors in any geographical locations)

They can blame Verizon for getting the courts to strike down the previous neutrality rules. The courts advised them to reclassify them as title 2.

[QUOTE=codemaster85;47083242]my parents who are republicans think that this will allow net neutrality to happen, just now they will tax/charge you even more now that its a utility.[/QUOTE]my family thinks it's "obama trying to control the internet"

[url=http://dontbreakthe.net/]Meanwhile...[/url] [quote]Dear Mr. Chairman, Don’t break the Internet! ALLOWING THE GOVERNMENT TO RUN THE INTERNET LIKE A UTILITY OPENS THE DOOR TO ABUSE. WE NEED YOUR VOICE NOW TO OPPOSE TITLE II — PROTECT AN OPEN INTERNET![/quote]

[URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1445346"]Called it last month,[/URL] so glad Wheeler didn't let us down. Meanwhile, the industry's taking this in stride. [t]https://www.ncta.com/sites/prod/files/title2-JaneHeader.png[/t] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/hIbD4cJ.png[/IMG] [URL="https://www.ncta.com/TitleII"]Source - massive amounts of FUD ahead[/URL] [t]https://www.ncta.com/sites/prod/files/titleII-industryinvestment-1000.jpg[/t] It's funny how they don't want us to see how much money they've spent on infrasturcture in the last 12 years, only how much was spent between 12 and 22 years ago. Before most people had broadband and popular use of VoIP was in its infancy, and video streaming was basically nonexistent. That graph must've been prepared by the same guys who do Fox News' graphs. [URL="https://www.ncta.com/platform/public-policy/why-its-a-good-thing-that-broadband-isnt-a-common-carrier/"]"Why it's a good thing that broadband isn't a common carrier"[/URL] - industry lies and the comments are unanimously shitting on them :v:

I looked over this site and it seems like a lot of scaremongering Wow thanks for the automerge jerk

If this actually happens then I'm gonna hang a picture of Tom Wheeler on my wall

[QUOTE=codemaster85;47083242]my parents who are republicans think that this will allow net neutrality to happen, just now they will tax/charge you even more now that its a utility.[/QUOTE] They will, because they're greedy selfish fucksticks. It will happen. Then the government will come in and impose the spanking of hands and removal of unwanted genitals in customer orifices, and start handing out big ass incontrovertible fines. Then the ISPs will back down and settle for raising rates in the background, like utilities do. You'll still get overcharged, just a lot less with no throttling, once the dust settles.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;47083450]I remember when all the FCC did was get miffed when people said dirty words on TV. I'm so happy they're doing something awesome and progressive. [editline]5th February 2015[/editline] When an awful lot of jobs require you to submit applications online you damn well better believe the internet is a necessity.[/QUOTE] Not only that, how many bills do you pay online? I pay my phone bill, water, electric, garbage all online. Of course you can do that without the internet, but that's the same thing as time-traveling over a decade into the past. The internet frees up a lot of time today that took some time and effort to do out of your day not all that long ago. The UN declared it a human right. I don't remember which country it was, but recently they, too, said it's now a right Here in the US, though. Much like health care which is a human right, it is and will probably get worse when it comes to making profits off it

[URL="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/242010/gop-unveils-net-neutrality-bill-that-limits-fccs.html"]Also, don't forget that Republicans in both houses of Congress are trying to prevent the FCC from having any capability to regulate the Internet whatsoever.[/URL]

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;47084351][URL="http://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/242010/gop-unveils-net-neutrality-bill-that-limits-fccs.html"]Also, don't forget that Republicans in both houses of Congress are trying to prevent the FCC from having any capability to regulate the Internet whatsoever.[/URL][/QUOTE] Will get vetoed.

Fuck 'em up, FCC. Take the legal equivalent of a Bad Dragon horsecock dildo wrapped in sandpaper and coated with pepperspray and shove it right up their greedy arse!

[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;47084066][url=http://dontbreakthe.net/]Meanwhile...[/url][/QUOTE] oh wait it's an open edit, this is great

wait did they put the cat in or was it it edit in.É

[QUOTE=draugur;47083130]FCC is going to get placed on the list of government agencies that actually do work if they keep this up.[/QUOTE]And then promptly on the list of government agencies to urgently destroy by lobbied politicians.

[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;47085646]And then promptly on the list of government agencies to urgently destroy by lobbied politicians.[/QUOTE] Oh, they got on that wagon three weeks ago, as I linked above.