• Sony responds to Congress: Anonymous to blame!
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[quote=] We've heard Sony explain itself at length regarding the gigantic PlayStation Network breach, but this might be the most useful version of the story yet -- it's the one that Sony's Kaz Hirai is forwarding to US Congress members concerned about your personal information. The official PlayStation.Blog has the full English document up on Flickr for your perusal, and we'll warn you it's much the same tale -- Sony says all 77 million PSN and Qriocity accounts have had information stolen, but the company's still not sure exactly which pieces have gone missing, whether credit card numbers are compromised or no, or who could be behind the hack. Sony does say, however, that it had 12.3 million credit card numbers on file, and 5.6 million of them from the US, and that investigators found a file on one of the servers named "Anonymous" with the words "We are Legion" inside it. Hard to draw many conclusions from that.[/quote] Source: [url]http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/04/sony-responds-to-congress-all-77-million-psn-accounts-compromis/[/url]
Most hackers tend to not leave their names when they compromise systems, Sony.
Everyone acts like that's some group people can place blame on, you can join and leave as you please.
I really hope sony'd just give whoever is doing this what they want. That way i'd be able to get back onto PSN.
It was probably Westboro Baptist trying to blame Anon. I doubt Anon would be dumb enough to do that.
[QUOTE=iBoss;29613353]It was probably Westboro Baptist trying to blame Anon. I doubt Anon would be dumb enough to do that.[/QUOTE] What IS anon? They're not an identifiable group with known members. They're a group of teenage internet actvists that is constantly gaining and losing members without anyone knowing it.
Anon is composed of millions of people, good luck finding the ones that were involved from the ones that had jack shit to do with it. That's assuming that this isn't something that's unrelated to the hacking and this isn't something left or being manufactured to put the blame on a group because they can't actually find who's responsible.
I don't know what to think about it, the hacker could have just simply used Anonymous to get the blame away from himself, but it's quite possible someone from Anonymous (some lurker) would have done that.
[QUOTE=archangel125;29613364]What IS anon? They're not an identifiable group with known members. They're a group of teenage internet actvists that is constantly gaining and losing members without anyone knowing it.[/QUOTE] :iiam:
Haha, oh wow.
[QUOTE=Janizaurd;29613384]I don't know what to think about it, the hacker could have just simply used Anoymous to get the blame away from himself, but it's quite possible someone from Anonymous (some lurker) would have done that.[/QUOTE] It's also possible Sony put the file there and is using it to get back at Anon because they can't find the real hacker.
Whoever did it probably doesn't own a PS3
[QUOTE=Bigby Wolf;29613399]It's also possible Sony put the file there and is using it to get back at Anon because they can't find the real hacker.[/QUOTE] I really doubt that since they're working with the FBI, CIA and all those groups- I'm pretty sure they want hard proof.
[QUOTE=archangel125;29613364]What IS anon? They're not an identifiable group with known members. They're a group of teenage internet actvists that is constantly gaining and losing members without anyone knowing it.[/QUOTE] that's pretty much it, they have a core group of people that make videos and do the actual hacking and take down websites and such, the rest are just a bunch of angsty-teenage-4channers.
Wow, I thought Facepunch of all places would understand what Anonymous is. It is not a group per se. Anon is a name. A mantle that is taken up by people with a common cause. There are no permanent members. There is no concrete goal. There can be two groups of Anon doing two completely different things at the same time.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;29613447]Whoever did it probably doesn't own a PS3[/QUOTE] Why would you think that? Just because PSN is down, doesn't mean single player functionality is absent from the console.
[QUOTE=Janizaurd;29613590]I really doubt that since they're working with the FBI, CIA and all those groups- I'm pretty sure they want hard proof.[/QUOTE] Could have been done pre-hacking and they just happened to be using it now, I'm just throwing ideas around
Have you guys never been to 4chan or something? Anonymous isn't even a group. It's just /b/tards and other equally stupid people.
what anon want with credit card numbers
Why would anon take down something that they enjoy using?
[QUOTE=Explosions;29613631]Wow, I thought Facepunch of all places would understand what Anonymous is. It is not a group per se. Anon is a name. A mantle that is taken up by people with a common cause. There are no permanent members. There is no concrete goal. There can be two groups of Anon doing two completely different things at the same time.[/QUOTE] We've repeated this several times already.
It's like they say Anonymous as if they know who Anonymous. This implies they are going to blame 4chan.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;29613876]We've repeated that several times already.[/QUOTE] I am greatly sorry if I have offended thee o Lord.
Blaming anonymous is like saying someone you dont know who is did it.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;29613447]Whoever did it probably doesn't own a PS3[/QUOTE] Didn't people say that the initial hack was because someone was able to modify their PS3 so they could connect into the dev network? Or was that speculation?
If it was "anonymous", it's actually good news. In my experience Anon operations have never been purposfully criminal, other than in order to make a point. They clearly wanted to send sony a message, but have never targeted individual users of any system they have invaded, so I would Imagine they would be less likely to exploit the information.
We're too stupid to manage to track down the source of the attack, so Anonymous did it.
[QUOTE=nikomo;29614377]We're too stupid to manage to track down the source of the attack, so Anonymous did it.[/QUOTE] Did you even bother to read the article?
I still think some guys have done this purely for how valuable all those details would be, anyone can make a .txt file.
Sony blaming Anon is like them going to Congress and saying that noone did it.
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