British Judges Free Child Rapists, Say 12-Year-Old Girls “Wanted” Sex - Polidicks

[url=http://msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2011/07/22/british-judges-free-child-rapists-say-12-year-old-girls-wanted-sex/]source[/url] [release]In March, six British soccer players confessed to gang-raping two 12-year-old girls and were sentenced to two years behind bars. But last week, an Appeal Court overturned the sentence, and all of the men were freed. The reasoning? “The girls wanted to have sex,” said Lord Justice Moses, who was among the deciding judges. “And they had pretty miserable, fleeting sex in a freezing cold park.” News reports suggest that one of the girls had been communicating with the men via text message and asked them to meet her and a friend in a park. Once there, she was raped by five of the men; her friend was raped by one. The girls were later found wandering alone at 2:20 am after one of their mothers called the police to report them missing. Despite the fact that both girls were well under the age of consent (which in England is 16 years old), their apparent “want” for sex (and the poor quality of that sex) waived this law in the judges’ eyes. The implications of the decision are severe: “The judges have set a highly dangerous precedent by suggesting that raping vulnerable children is not punishable by the severest sentencing,” said British anti-rape activist Jill Saward. The judges claimed that the men’s “frank confessions” about the rapes affirmed their “positive good character” and showed that they were genuinely duped into sex. The girls had lied about their ages, saying they were 16 on Facebook, and were dressed to appear older. But should men who admit to rape-by-mistake be let off the hook? For Saward, the answer is absolutely not: “If there is any doubt, men should say no.” She added, “[The girls] aren’t even old enough to have Facebook accounts, and using the belief that by having Facebook they are old enough is a disgrace.” Plus, the minimum age for Facebook users is only 13 years old. But this is not a new argument. In case after case, rapists are let off the hook with apologies and excuses: The girls were dressed provocatively, the women were drinking, women lie about rape, there was “sex in the air.” In law, it seems, no one ever “means” to rape–it’s always an accident, or the fault of the woman. However, research has shown that most rapists are serial rapists–and those serial rapists commit 90 to 95 percent of all rapes. What’s more likely–that these repeat perpetrators just happen to get “tricked” by underage women or receive “mixed messages” from unconsenting women, again and again–or that the overwhelming majority of rapes aren’t really committed “by accident”?[/release]

it's fucking retarded that if you have sex with a girl who lies about her age, you're the one that gets thrown in jail.

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302076]it's fucking retarded that if you have sex with a girl who lies about her age, you're the one that gets thrown in jail.[/QUOTE] uh I hope you're not suggesting the alternative of the girl being jailed

Lol yeah, the 12 year olds were completely rational + thought hardly about their decisions. Definitley weren't coerced into it.

"the poor quality of the sex"

[QUOTE=Sanius;31302110]uh I hope you're not suggesting the alternative of the girl being jailed[/QUOTE] no don't make such absurd assumptions, ghost rater. i just think being punished for committing a crime you didn't know you committed is ridiculous.

[QUOTE=Sanius;31302110]uh I hope you're not suggesting the alternative of the girl being jailed[/QUOTE] you have jumped to Mars with that conclusion

[QUOTE=Goberfish;31302151]you have jumped to Mars with that conclusion[/QUOTE] "[b]you're the one[/b] that gets thrown in jail" what am I supposed to conclude

[QUOTE=Sanius;31302164]"[b]you're the one[/b] that gets thrown in jail" what am I supposed to conclude[/QUOTE] that you're the one that gets thrown in jail....

How fucking stupid.

Judging by how the former 12 year old act, a part of me believes the man when he said that the WANTED to have sex.

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302141]no don't make such absurd assumptions, ghost rater. i just think being punished for committing a crime you didn't know you committed is ridiculous.[/QUOTE]I kinda doubt she wanted to have sex/get raped 5 guys.

Decision's fine by me, as long as the girls really did want it.

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302141]i just think being punished for committing a crime you didn't know you committed is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] Really? Like actually?

lets see those text messages, then I will decide.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;31302193]I kinda doubt she wanted to have sex/get raped 5 guys.[/QUOTE] >relying on the editorial posted above for your information about the "crime" [quote]The girls told the men they 16 years old and had sneaked away from a party to be with them after exchanging suggestive text messages, it was alleged. The court heard how after driving to the park with the men, [b]the girls separated and while one appeared to be reluctant to engage in any sexual activity, the other went to the far end of the area and called the defendants over one-by-one to have full sex or perform sex acts on them.[/b] The judge heard that the most active of the two girls, mentioned in five of the six charges, could not have been trusted by the prosecution as a witness. [b]She was also being investigated over an unrelated false rape allegation and had a fake age on her Facebook page.[/b][/quote] hmmmmmm

is "i thought she was older" really the excuse you want to use?

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302141]no don't make such absurd assumptions, ghost rater. i just think being punished for committing a crime you didn't know you committed is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] 12 year olds have really tiny bodies. Im pretty sure that they knew something was up when they PUT THEIR PENISES INSIDE THEM.

[QUOTE=Lonestriper;31302202]Really? Like actually?[/QUOTE] smartass [editline]24th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Nohj;31302220]12 year olds have really tiny bodies. Im pretty sure that they knew something was up when they PUT THEIR PENISES INSIDE THEM.[/QUOTE] not really, all girls develop differently, and you'd be surprised what some makeup and a pushup bra can do. point in case: courtney stodden [img]http://cdn.theblemish.com/images/2011/06/20110620-courtney-stodden-03.jpg[/img] take a wild guess how old she is? [sp]sixteen[/sp]

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302221]smartass[/QUOTE] So in your opinion if I unwittingly commit fraud I shouldn't be punished?

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302221]smartass [editline]24th July 2011[/editline] not really, all girls develop differently, and you'd be surprised what some makeup and a pushup bra can do. point in case: courtney stodden [img]http://cdn.theblemish.com/images/2011/06/20110620-courtney-stodden-03.jpg[/img] take a wild guess how old she is? [sp]sixteen[/sp][/QUOTE] a sixteen year old who married a 51 year old [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] I just googled her but gross

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302221] take a wild guess how old she is? sixteen[/QUOTE] uh yeah there's a pretty substantial difference between a 12 year-old and a 16 year-old in terms of sexual development

even if they wanted it that is no excuse for 5 men to have sex with a goddamn 12 year old. people with 'positive good character' don't fuck kids in parks in the middle of the night. throw em back in jail and sack this dipshit judge

[QUOTE=Hullu V3;31302186]Judging by how the former 12 year old act, a part of me believes the man when he said that the WANTED to have sex.[/QUOTE] guess how little that matters! (none!) I could convince a 6-year-old that having sex would be tons of fun for her and she could want to have it but that doesn't mean giving it to them is alright

[QUOTE=Lonestriper;31302264]So in your opinion if I unwittingly commit fraud I shouldn't be punished?[/QUOTE] there's no such thing as accidental fraud, here is some legal jargon for your benefit [url]http://www.journalofaccountancy.com/Issues/2004/Oct/BasicLegalConcepts.htm[/url] [QUOTE=Sanius;31302283]uh yeah there's a pretty substantial difference between a 12 year-old and a 16 year-old in terms of sexual development[/QUOTE] sorry doctor sanius i thought there were natural variations in sexual development speed in some girls.

you have got to be fucking kidding me :quagmire:

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302329] sorry doctor sanius i thought there were natural variations in sexual development speed in some girls.[/QUOTE] what are you even getting to, anyway? that it's okay to gang-rape 12 year-old girls because you saw a 16 year-old girl who looks like she's 50?

wait wait wait, they admit to raping 2 girls that they thought were 16 then turn out to be 12, i don't understand this story at all what the fuck is this judge thinking?

[QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302221]smartass [editline]24th July 2011[/editline] not really, all girls develop differently, and you'd be surprised what some makeup and a pushup bra can do. point in case: courtney stodden [img]http://cdn.theblemish.com/images/2011/06/20110620-courtney-stodden-03.jpg[/img] take a wild guess how old she is? [sp]sixteen[/sp][/QUOTE] jeez that sucks she skipped all the years where girls look good

[QUOTE=Sanius;31302349]what are you even getting to, anyway? that it's okay to gang-rape 12 year-old girls because you saw a 16 year-old girl who looks like she's 50?[/QUOTE] bro where are you getting this stuff... [QUOTE=TropicalV2;31302141]no don't make such absurd assumptions, ghost rater. i just think being punished for committing a crime you didn't know you committed is ridiculous.[/QUOTE] i guess i can repeat myself for you