Me and a friend have beef with a 30 year old who wants to kill us - General

(Also in GD) So long story [i]short[/i], 5 months ago i bought a 1987 Caravelle for $1000. It was a good deal, only ~200,000 total kilometers on the engine (meaning the engine hasn't been used much at all, so it's still good), barely any rust at all (only a little over back-right wheel well), the tires, battery, alternator, deck were ALL replaced. The car was great on gas, and the interior was in great shape. Unfortunately about a month and a half ago the master cylinder broke (meaning the brakes were fucked). Basically, the brakes were still working, but in-efficient as shit. You'd have to press the brake to the floor and you'd only be able to slow from 30 mph to 0 in 4-6 seconds. (For reference, the replacement part costs only [highlight]$95 dollars[/highlight]) So being as this vehicle was unsafe to drive (always running red's), i found it imperative that i find a new vehicle immedietly. Fortunately, my friend had a nice little 5-speed standard car sitting in his backyard not being driven. (He doesn't have his license, the car was a gift), so he decided to give me an ace deal i couldn't refuse. $350 cash and the car was mine. That's it. I thought it was a fucking awesome deal since this car was WAY better than the Caravelle (even when it had working brakes), and it was only 350 bucks. At the time however, i was another week and a half away from pay day, but as said earlier, it was imperative i get a new car asap. I offered him my car as collateral until i paid him back, and he accepted. I told him if he sells the car, he can keep whatever he gets. Two days later we hang out with this girl and her uncle. Her uncles name is Chris and he's 35 years old. The reason her uncle tagged along was because he bought 48 cans of beer, and had a ton of weed, and was in general, a real nice guy. He was offering us beers left and right (he originally had 24 cans, but he shared so many he bought another case. what a nice guy hey!), giving us free hoots, offering to front us weed, giving us smokes, 2 at a time if we asked. He was honestly one of the chillest, more generous guys i've chilled with. Of course i trust this guy now, what a swell fellow he is. On that same day someone wanted to buy the Caravelle for $500. He came down, inspected it, we told him the car's being sold "as is" with no brakes, and he was cool with that. After all, it was still a perfectly fine vehicle; I spent money on that deck, those tires, etc. However, Chris, the super nice uncle we once chilled with, was also interested in the car. Now since we thought this guy was pretty nice, we cut him a deal. $350; the car's his. However, since the deck in my new car didn't even play CD's, i told him i either wanted $30 for the deck in the caravelle, or i wanted it back. He agreed to pay the extra $30 for the deck. We told him the brakes were messed up, and it needed a new brake master cylinder. He was cool with that, and put a downpayment of $250 dollars on the car. We trusted him. We gave him the car, with the transfer of ownership, expecting the other $130 in 3 days time (that's what he told us). I left a GPS, a sweater, and a bunch of other personal things in the car when i gave it to my friend, but i didn't think of getting them right away because Chris seemed like a trust-worthy guy and i planned on getting it later. The next day he calls us and says his mechanic told him it will be $300 to fix. I told him that was BS and i could get the part for $100 shipped, no problem. I even offered to do it for him, but he declined. Four days later we call him asking for the money. He says he is completely pissed off that he had to pay $130 earlier that day to replace the brake pads. (Yes, he replaced the brake pads when that wasn't even the problem) He was still upset that the brakes weren't working and i told him, again, that he needed to replace the master cylinder for the brakes to function properly. We argued for a bit, but eventually we were told to meet at (diefenbaker hill), a dirt road area near the river. I know this probably stands out to most of you as a bad idea. (meeting where nobody's around) but his excuse was that since he did a breaking and entering earlier that day, he had to leave the city for a few hours, and the highway he took happened to be located right by diefenbaker, so hence we didn't think anything of it at the time. While me and my friend were waiting there for him, i said outloud, and i quote "You know... i really don't think he's gonna have all of our money". Surely enough, 10 minutes later when he arrived, i was correct. First thing i notice when he pulls into the parking lot is how he takes a left turn too sharply and the car slams into the ditch and bottoms out. At first i thought he was just a terrible driver, but it soon became obvious why he was driving like that. Beer in hand, he stumbles out of the car slurring a bunch of words and starts bitching about how he had to spend more money to fix the car. Suddenly his [b]brother[/b] who is [highlight]Fourty-one[/highlight] years old hops out of the car. The first thing he said to us was "Do you guys know where to find some coke?" (Literally, and i quote) I told him no, but i wanted my money from Chris. So then Chris pulls out $50 (When he owes my friend 50, and me 30[for the deck]) and hands it to me and says "That's all the fucking money i'm giving you". I tried explaining to him that the car was still in good driving, and overall condition but he refused to listen. I told him one more time "You still owe me $30 for the deck" when all of a sudden he explodes with rage. He opens the door, grabs me by my hoodie and says "lets fuckin go right now buddy", with his fist cocked back, and his hand on my sweater i expect to get my ass kicked by these middle aged men. Fortunately his brother calmed him down and kept repeating "Now Chris, no sucker punches, no sucker punches" and eventually he let go of me. He tells me how bad i ripped him off on this car (when i just fucking purchased it for a grand a few months ago god damnit), and starts yelling some more. Still drunk as shit, he stumbles over to the car. This is when the 40 year old tries to start shit. He reaches his head into my car (spilling Kokanee all over my crotch and steering wheel) and grabs hold of my (current car's) deck. Now as i said before, this deck is terrible, it can't play cd's, it's got shit reception, it wasn't even being held into place properly and all it can do is play fm radio. Although it sucks, i could deal with the radio over nothing at all. He grabs hold of it and asks "Why do you need that deck when you already got one?", i explain to him, "Because this one is shit and i want the good one from the other car". He says, "Oh so you don't want this one anymore?" "Well it's a piece of shit, that's why i want my other one." "Oh well lets just get rid of it right now then," He fucking tears the deck completely out of my car, ripping and pulling out wires from the deck and my car. At this point i lost my cool and before i stab this guy or smash him over the head with a wrench, and either get killed in return, or go to jail, i kept my cool and peeled out. Four [i]hours[/i] later he calls my friends cell phone and tells us to come pick him up right now and bring him his "fucking money" because he's on the westside and the car won't start. We [i]respectfully[/i] told him no, we are NOT coming to get him after the way he acted earlier, and he loses control. We hang up on him and ignore his calls. In between then and now, he's tried getting his neice (who introduced him to us, and is also now a fucking bitch) to tell us we better have his money. Now this big mouthed 16 year old girl is talking shit threatening us saying my car is gonna get jacked, fucked up, tires slashed, etc. This continued for a while until for about a week we didn't hear anything from him. However, yesterday we happened to be driving together and we saw chris driving too. I was stopped at a red going "straight" and he was going through the intersection to the "left" and he leaned out his window with a car full of people and stopped right in the intersection, even with cars behind him and started yelling shit at us and telling us to pull over. However since my new car is alot faster, i peaced out and lost him. Now i'm wondering what to do from here. Should [b]I[/b] go fuck with HIM or HIS car, or should i just hope he can grow the fuck up and leave us 17 year old kids alone. What a fucked up situation to be in

Kill him. Problem solved.

I actually want to. Doubt im capable

It's a shit situation. I dunno... you can't exactly go to the police if he starts harassing you... :frown:

Just stay away from this crazy ass guy

I recommend getting a handgun. Meet him somewhere, pull up and point it at him. Should scare the shit out of him. Just pray he doesn't do the same.

That's a terrible idea. I'm not going to go into this with a bluff, if he wants to stab, shoot, or kill me i'll be prepared. But i'm not gonna point a gun at him just to scare him when he could easily get a gun himself

much better idea to post this thread here than in GD. GD's a shitstorm when it comes to anything drug-related. i really think you should call the cops, if the only reason you're not doing it is because you don't want to get your parents involved, that's stupid, because they don't even need to know anything about the alcohol or the weed, but i'm just making assumptions there. i guarantee you that there's no way that you can handle this yourself without drastically negative consequences, if you fuck him up, he's old, he probably knows people, he'll get those people to fuck you up.

Let's just say me and my friend have the abliity to get the hell's angels after him. I aint sayin we can directly, or how, but if it came down to it, it's possible to have this guy killed. So far he hasn't done anything really near what i consider to be punishable by death, but if he attacks either of us and he causes damage, we can always get him back. (I'd like to note im not trying to be an internet tough guy, i'm just telling you we have serious back if shit goes down...)

I don't know what to tell you right now. I'm in the same position than you. I made a crime with someone, I got freed under conditions, he didn't (he was on a probation). Now, I've learned that he got 9 months in juvie. His older brother, a dealer that knows a lot of people, think that I snitched his little brother because he got the time and I got nothing for now, so he wants to beat the shit out of me (he's a very good fighter). He asked my friend to tell him where I was for 120$, my friend called me telling me that. I think that i'm going to call him, tell him to come to a place, get prepared to fight him, and probably get knocked-out. You guys have any other suggestions, considering that i'm not allowed at all to have the possesion of any kind of weapons.

[QUOTE=Dirtbox;16211325]I don't know what to tell you right now. I'm in the same position than you. I made a crime with someone, I got freed under conditions, he didn't (he was on a probation). Now, I've learned that he got 9 months in juvie. His older brother, a dealer that knows a lot of people, think that I snitched his little brother because he got the time and I got nothing for now, so he wants to beat the shit out of me (he's a very good fighter). He asked my friend to tell him where I was for 120$, my friend called me telling me that. I think that i'm going to call him, tell him to come to a place, get prepared to fight him, and probably get knocked-out. You guys have any other suggestions, considering that i'm not allowed at all to have the possesion of any kind of weapons.[/QUOTE] Define "weapon" A lot of things that can be used as weapons aren't immediately classified as weapons.

Ok a few mouths back something similar happened to me. Sneak int your garage and get a crowbar. Throw rocks. Bring a steak knife form your kitchen. Use your imagination.

[QUOTE=Dirtbox;16211325]I don't know what to tell you right now. I'm in the same position than you. I made a crime with someone, I got freed under conditions, he didn't (he was on a probation). Now, I've learned that he got 9 months in juvie. His older brother, a dealer that knows a lot of people, think that I snitched his little brother because he got the time and I got nothing for now, so he wants to beat the shit out of me (he's a very good fighter). He asked my friend to tell him where I was for 120$, my friend called me telling me that. I think that i'm going to call him, tell him to come to a place, get prepared to fight him, and probably get knocked-out. You guys have any other suggestions, considering that i'm not allowed at all to have the possesion of any kind of weapons.[/QUOTE] have you tried explaining the situation to his older brother?

Just saw this thread in GD.. It proves my theory correct. GD is full of dipshits

[QUOTE=The_Guy;16215703]Got nerf guns? No, really get a bunch of sewing needles and glue em into the head of the dart, with my long shot it is enough to cause bleeding and hurt like shit. [/QUOTE] If you did this to somebody who was determined to get you be prepared to get knocked the fuck out

-Snip-

you irritate me so much

[QUOTE=Qwerty?;16221317]If you did this to somebody who was determined to get you be prepared to get knocked the fuck out[/QUOTE] Yeah pretty much.

[QUOTE=Anubis589;16206464]Kill him. Problem solved.[/QUOTE] I agree, then eat his body... make bread

Ok ill do that ill kill him and eat his body then make bread hahah so funny i am 10 yrs old

you're funny bro, and that's a pretty cool story you got there

Ya that ruins the realty of your story. [editline]05:28PM[/editline] But it still rocks.

yup, it's a sticky situation. Just gettin all the help i possibly can. Too many retarded posts keep poppin up and it's getting in the way of real ideas.

Why not go beat his ass for the reason hes an asshole and not for the reason some people on the internet told you too

Sorry but im not a super fighter who can take people twice his age and weight

This thread is getting old

Just stay the fuck away from him, as most people have been saying, what else more do you want?

stay away from him? Well golly! Why didn't i think of that earlier!?!! It's too bad he's the one trying to pull me over on the middle of a busy street and getting his niece to try and pass on his messages for him. [B]ALSO, UPDATE[/B] A friend of a friend of mine (I personally am not really "bro's" with him), was hanging out with ol uncle Chris and his niece last night and he said chris was talking shit and telling him how we sold him a shit car and he was gonna fuck us up. Yesterday again. So clearly he's not letting it go.

Well, call the cops on his ass. It's better than all this stupid gang-related Hell's Angels/carry around a gun when you're 17 bullshit. Yeah, you might get shit from your parents for smoking weed/drinking alcohol, but it's better than doing time/getting the fuck get beat out of you by some crazy violent drunk asshole who hasn't grown up.

[QUOTE=Dirtbox;16211325]I don't know what to tell you right now. I'm in the same position than you. I made a crime with someone, I got freed under conditions, he didn't (he was on a probation). Now, I've learned that he got 9 months in juvie. His older brother, a dealer that knows a lot of people, think that I snitched his little brother because he got the time and I got nothing for now, so he wants to beat the shit out of me (he's a very good fighter). He asked my friend to tell him where I was for 120$, my friend called me telling me that. I think that i'm going to call him, tell him to come to a place, get prepared to fight him, and probably get knocked-out. You guys have any other suggestions, considering that i'm not allowed at all to have the possesion of any kind of weapons.[/QUOTE] If you can't bring weapons, just bring more people.