• US military strikes against Syria still on the table, according to some Senators; Agreement with Rus
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[quote]Washington (CNN) – Sen. Carl Levin, chairman of the Armed Services Committee, said Sunday the threat of U.S. military force in Syria remains, despite a U.S.-Russian agreement to rid Syria of chemical weapons. But Sen. John McCain said the agreement is “meaningless.” U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov announced the agreement Saturday in Geneva, Switzerland. The agreement states Syria must submit a comprehensive list of its chemical weapons stockpile within one week, international inspectors must be on the ground no later than November, and all chemical weapons material must be eliminated by mid-2014. But the agreement doesn’t specify what sort of ramifications there would be if Syria doesn’t comply. The U.S. and Russia said Syria should be subjected to measures under Chapter VII of the U.N. charter if it fails to honor the agreement. Chapter VII leaves open the possibility of the use of force, but it’s unclear if the U.N. Security Council would support such measures. For his part, Levin said the U.S. could still use military force if the agreement doesn’t bring about the end of Syria’s chemical weapons stockpiles. [B]“Russia has tried very hard, as really their No. 1 or No. 2 goal, to force us to give up the option of using force if Assad does not comply. Russia has failed in that goal. We retain the option of using force if there is not full compliance,” Levin said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”[/B] In fact, Levin said, the threat of military action is necessary for the agreement to succeed. “This would not have happened without that threat, and it will not be fully implemented, I’m afraid, without a continuing threat,” Levin said. But McCain told reporters the agreement basically has no teeth, because he said there are seemingly no consequences for Syrian inaction. [B]“It's meaningless in the respect that there's no penalty for noncompliance.[/B] In fact, Mr. Lavrov went out of his way to say at the announcement of this agreement that there was no agreement on the use of force or sanctions by the United Nations,” McCain said. “So showing that unless Russia agrees, there is no punishment for noncompliance under this agreement for Bashar Assad.”[/quote] [url]http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/09/15/lawmakers-disagree-on-whether-use-of-force-is-still-on-the-table/?hpt=po_t1[/url]
Not a fan of that timeline. If this deal goes through we'll still be tangled up in Syria until mid-2014
How the fuck is an agreement with Russia meaningless? Oh well. Military-industrial regime and warmonger politicians and all that.
The same people who threw us into a war in the middle east ten years ago are, guess what. Pushing for another war in the middle east.
the congress wanted tanks the tanks [B]hunger[/B] and the tanks [B]will never stop[/B]
[quote]“We retain the option of using force [b]if there is not full compliance[/b],” Levin said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”[/quote] Alrighty then.
[QUOTE=Joazzz;42213595]the congress wanted tanks the tanks [B]hunger[/B] and the tanks [B]will never stop[/B][/QUOTE] Even the army doesn't want any more of Congress' tanks
[QUOTE=PollytheParrot;42213626]Even the army doesn't want any more of Congress' tanks[/QUOTE] the army can't stop [B]the hunger[/B]
I'm not sure if I should be in the "I can't believe" or the "I should've expected it" pool over the fact that we almost reached a peaceful agreement just to go "well, we may attack them anyways, lol." [QUOTE=Joazzz;42213642]the army can't stop [B]the hunger[/B][/QUOTE] [img]http://i43.tinypic.com/1216a0y.jpg[/img] [b]FEED ME SYRIANS[/b]
Tanks aren't even in the question. Did everyone forget how Libya and the Balkans was done, and with pretty great effectiveness?
[QUOTE=Riller;42214014]Tanks aren't even in the question. Did everyone forget how Libya and the Balkans was done, and with pretty great effectiveness?[/QUOTE]Yes. Its easier to get riled up without knowing all the facts than to sit back and go "Ohh, yeah. I see."
i put metric tons of effort into combining two entirely unrelated evets into a joke and you two just ruin it bawwww now do you want my lunch money or what
[QUOTE=Joazzz;42214336]i put metric tons of effort into combining two entirely unrelated evets into a joke and you two just ruin it bawwww now do you want my lunch money or what[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Doom14;42213867][img]http://i43.tinypic.com/1216a0y.jpg[/img] [b]FEED ME SYRIANS[/b][/QUOTE]dude chill, you already won gold by catalysing the creation of that picture
[QUOTE=AmericanInfantry;42213565]How the fuck is an agreement with Russia meaningless? Oh well. Military-industrial regime and warmonger politicians and all that.[/QUOTE] read the fucking [I]article[/I] [quote] in the respect that there's no penalty for noncompliance[/quote] Russia wanted the US to say that even if Assad didn't give his weapons up, the US wouldn't strike him. So basically taking the threat of the missile strikes out of the equation.
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