[U][B]READ THIS FIRST:[/B][/U]
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I am NOT NOT NOT part of the Westboro Baptist Church. I only thought it would be in everyone's benifite to have a sort of TL:DR'd version from wikipedia. I do not support ANY of their views at ALL. [/B][/U]
[B][U]This thread is about the church and their background, as an informative source. I am going to try to write as much information as I can, and save my opinions to the end. [/U][/B]
My main source of information in this thread is from wikipedia, and from watching this video:
[URL]http://www.atheistnation.net/video/?video/00260/atheist/the-most-hated-family-in-america/[/URL]
[U][B]Youtube videos broken into eight parts (click the above link for all 56 minutes)
Part one:
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[media] [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=bOrz5k0jWdU[/url][/media]
[U][B]Part [/B][/U][B]2 [/B]
[media] [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=UCSshfI_ZlY[/url][/media]
[B][U]Part [/U]3 [/B]
[media] [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=MdGE5GxP2nc[/url][/media]
[B][U]Part [/U]4 [/B]
[media] [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ayVFHMn6Y6w[/url][/media]
[B][U]Part [/U]5[/B]
[media] [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=JjAOsgu45Oo[/url][/media]
[B][U]Part [/U]6[/B]
[media] [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=Lv4ejurj1XY[/url][/media]
[B][U]Part [/U]7[/B]
[media] [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=TkIgoKClCfg[/url][/media]
[B][U]Part [/U]8[/B]
[media] [url]http://youtube.com/watch?v=0g2WCUT6qoQ[/url][/media]
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Introduction:
[/U][/B]The Westboro Baptist Church was founded on November 27, 1955. Currently it is headed by Fred Phelps. Currently located in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topeka,_Kansas"]Topeka, Kansas[/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States"]United States[/URL].
The WBC is known for it's anti-gay protest, it's funeral picketing, and it's overuse of the word [U][B]"fag"
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[B][U]Information about the church:
[/U][/B]Pretty much, the WBC sees almost every other religion besides it's own "Devil Worship." It views all other churches that do not severely condemn homosexuality as going to hell.
[quote]Westboro Baptist Church is monitored by the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League"]Anti-Defamation League[/URL],[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_baptist_church#cite_note-adl-phelps-41"][42][/URL] and classified as a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_group"]hate group[/URL] by the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center"]Southern Poverty Law Center[/URL].
[/quote] ^^Wikipedia
The church runs numerous Web sites such as GodHatesFags.com, GodHatesAmerica.com and others expressing condemnation of homosexuality. They believe "[B]All tragedies in the world are linked to homosexuality."[/B] They also believe god hates gays above all other sinners, including murder, and rape, etc.
[B][quote]homosexuality should be a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment"]capital crime[/URL][/quote][/B]
^^wikipedia
[U][B]Views on other churches:[/B][/U]
[B]Catholics:[/B]
The WBC believes that Catholicism is one of the "Largest and best funded pedophilia organization of all time (over 9000 penises all raping children).
[B][B]Protestantism:[/B][/B]
More or less same as Catholicism, because they rape boys apparently.
[B]Eastern Orthodoxy:[/B]
[quote]The WBC claims that [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Christians"]Orthodox Christians[/URL] are indistinguishable from [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholics"]Roman Catholics[/URL]. The WBC criticizes the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_Church"]Eastern Orthodox Church[/URL]'s use of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Orthodox_icons"]icons[/URL], claiming that they constitute [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idolatry"]idolatry[/URL]. The WBC also criticizes veneration of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Mary"]Virgin Mary[/URL], the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theotokos"]Theotokos[/URL], saying, “There is no scripture that supports bowing down to kiss images . . . or praying to Mary! She was a human being, who God predestinated to bring forth the Lord Jesus Christ, and to raise him." [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_baptist_church#cite_note-50"][51][/URL]
[/quote]^^wikipedia
[B]Islam:
[/B][quote]So what if our guys flushed copies of the Quran down the toilet? We hope they did. They probably did; We hope they flush more. Mohammed was a demon-possessed whoremonger and pedophile who contrived a 300-page work of Satanic fiction: The Quran! Like America's own whoremonger and pedophile wangled his own hokey [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Mormon"]Book of Mormon[/URL]![/quote]^Also wikipedia
[B]Hinduism: [/B]
Apparently, because the Hindu worship "multiple false gods" they are all fags and fag lovers.
[B]Judaism:[/B]
[quote]the only true Jews are Christians. The rest of the people who claim to be Jews aren't, and they are nothing more than typical, impenitent sinners … the vast majority of Jews support fags. In fact, it is the official policy of Reformed Jews to support same-sex marriage. Of course, there are Jews who still believe God's law, but most of them have even departed from that. It doesn't matter if you're a Jew or a Gentile…as long as you believe in Christ."[/quote]^^Phelps (one of the older WBC members, first name not added.)
[U][B]Responses to the Westboro Baptist Church:
[/B][/U]There have been laws enacted to uphold the right of peaceful protest to the WBC, but also in attempt to tell them to fuck off. They are unable to be within 500 feet of a funeral (unfortunately in Indiana, and Michigan only). The bill provides penalties of up to three years in prison and a $10,000 fine for those found to be in violation of the law.
[quote]On 29 May 2006, President [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush"]George W. Bush[/URL] signed into law the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Respect_for_America%27s_Fallen_Heroes_Act"]Respect for America's Fallen Heroes Act[/URL] ([URL="http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-109publ228/content-detail.html"]Pub.L. 109-228[/URL]), prohibiting protests within 300 feet (90 m) of the entrance of any cemetery under control of the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Cemetery_Administration"]National Cemetery Administration[/URL] from 60 minutes before to 60 minutes after a funeral.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_baptist_church#cite_note-act-70"][71][/URL] Penalties for violating the act are up to $100,000 in fines and up to one year imprisonment.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_baptist_church#cite_note-act-70"][71][/URL] The bill garnered overwhelming bipartisan support in Congress with a 408-3 vote in the House, with 21 not voting, and a unanimous vote in the Senate. [/quote]^^wikipedia
[U][B]The United Kingdom told these guys to fuck off, and won't even let them into the country. [/B][/U]
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My Thoughts: [/B][/I][/U]
These people are downright crazy. They think they're the only people getting into heaven. The like seventy five people they have. They are all under the same last name, which leads me to believe they're all a bunch of inbreds. After talking to some of the women, none of them have any interest in friendships, or even getting married. They only "serve god" by calling everyone a faggot. [U][B]IRL trolls. Good ones too. [/B][/U]
The people of the church laugh in your face and will tell you you're going to hell. They're all brainwashed into believing that God's wrath will send you to hell because you're a fag enabling American. They hate being American, and are completely against our own country and it's interests. They wear American flags on their feet only to tread on them.
I can go into a whole other page of thoughts, but what do you all think?
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Last picture is of their "Leader."
Basically you can sum the entire mission statement and belief system of WBC into one word. [B]Hate[/B].
They are dumb
Some old mans wrong and hateful interpretation of the bible passed down to his children, to them what they do makes perfect sense and must be done.
[QUOTE=StormHammer;21685179]Basically you can sum the entire mission statement and belief system of WBC into one word. [B]Hate[/B].[/QUOTE]
Exactly. All they are is hate.
I'm willing to bet a large sum of money they do this for the attention and nothing more. No core beliefes, no ideologies, just waving their dicks around at anything that's in the news to try to get some air time.
Ignore them, it's the best plan of action.
[QUOTE=Daolpu;21685228]I'm willing to bet a large sum of money they do this for the attention and nothing more. No core beliefes, no ideologies, just waving their dicks around at anything that's in the news to try to get some air time.
Ignore them, it's the best plan of action.[/QUOTE]
I'll try to find the video on youtube and embed it on the main post. They actually believe all of this shit.
I've phoned them before and asked; "what's with all the hate?"
Got 5 minutes of a crazy lady (the wife of Phelps couple) screaming bible quotes and anti gay stuff at me while I laughed :v:
Give Christans a bad name, goddamn.
I am a Christan and they absolutely fucking disgust me, I dont care if they think they are saved, they can burn in hell.
lol they use the word fag
Idiocy at it's finest.
Youtube doesn't have all of them combined.. I'll work on getting them all in.
If they hate "fags" then they're going to hate two things.
1. Me.
2. Cigarette companies.
Quit referring to them as trolls and "trolls who got tired of the internet."
You're misusing the term to shit. They're not trolls, they're people who think they're on a divine mission to save the universe from god's wrath.
[QUOTE=Leaf Runner;21685323]Quit referring to them as trolls and "trolls who got tired of the internet."
You're misusing the term to shit. They're not trolls, they're people who think they're on a divine mission to save the universe from god's wrath.[/QUOTE]
I used the world trolls once.
They are the biggest trolls RL ever.
Because they think they are right when they are far from it...
God damned cigarettes, man.
Easiest way to defeat them: if you are a man, kiss the men. Sure, you might be attacked by the others, but the one who got kissed will commit suicide soon or be burnt at the stake in a few days.
Youtube videos up.
It's a shame people twist an idea of peace and unity into an excuse to blame a minority for problems in the world.
[QUOTE=Whomobile;21685509]It's a shame people twist an idea of peace and unity into an excuse to blame a minority for problems in the world.[/QUOTE]
Extremists:
I'm suprised nobody has done anything to them yet.
[QUOTE=Jakobi;21685593]I'm suprised nobody has done anything to them yet.[/QUOTE]
I have a feeling that if that soldiers father that is embroiled in a legal battle with them does not win that might change.
Or:
A bunch of soldiers coming back from Iraq snap or someone at a funeral they are protesting snaps.
When Fred Phelps dies the organization will die out. It may last a few years afterwards but he is the true brains.
Somebody needs to do something about this fucktards. This is another reason why I am atheist: people twist the "word of god" so that they can commit horrible acts in his name and think they can get away with it.
I'm sure any man with a mask would be glad to drop a cigarette butt or two on their wooden house.
This is only a small group of people out of one church, it is not like they all do this.
Everyone in THIS church does. Not all Baptists do.
[QUOTE=Siminov;21685699]This is only a small group of people out of one church, it is not like they all do this.[/QUOTE]
THIS church is not sanctioned by the Baptists obviously. The Baptist in their name is just a reference to their old school conservative ways.
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