Deadmau5 Slams Madonna Over 'Molly,' Ecstasy Reference At Ultra Music Festival - Polidicks

[quote] When Madonna [URL="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/25/madonna-ultra-music-festival-video_n_1378510.html?ref=entertainment"]took to the stage Saturday night[/URL] to introduce Avicii at Miami's Ultra Music Festival, she asked, "How many people in this crowd have seen molly?" Molly is a slang term for MDMA, the active chemical in ecstasy, a drug often associated with electronic dance music (EDM) concerts. The crowd erupted in cheers after Madge asked the question (see video of Madonna on stage at the bottom of this article), but not everyone in the EDM community was happy. Deadmau5, one of the leading producers of progressive house music, took to Twitter and Facebook to rail against the pop star for what he called grossly irresponsible behavior. "Very classy there madonna. "HUR DUR HAS ANYONE SEEN MOLLY???" such a great message for the young music lovers at ultra," he [URL="http://www.facebook.com/deadmau5/posts/10150636755631806"]posted on Facebook[/URL] early Monday morning. "quite the f'n philanthropist. but hey, at least yer HIP AND TRENDY! fucking cant smack my head hard enough right now." Madonna, whose album [I]MDNA[/I] was released today, has yet to respond to the Canadian producer. To Deadmau5 (whose real name is Joel Zimmerman), Madonna was trading on a negative association to appear relevant. By casually referencing MDMA usage at an event attended by 150,000 concertgoers and streamed online to tens of thousands more, the pop star helped cement an association that Zimmerman and other performers have fought to disprove. Some fans, however, didn't take Zimmerman's side. When one Twitter user suggested that Deadmau5's music is enjoyed by ecstasy users, the artist quickly said he doesn't condone that behavior. "I can appriciate her meteoric career, and all good deeds done, but WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?" he [URL="http://www.facebook.com/deadmau5/posts/10150636761541806"]added on Facebook[/URL]. "That's your big contribution to EDM? Thats your big message to ultra attendies? hipsterspeak for looking for drugs? fuck off you fucking IDIOT." In [URL="http://deadmau5.tumblr.com/post/19950981116/responsibility"]a follow-up blog post[/URL], Zimmerman clarified his remarks and insisted that the discussion was about responsibility. Responding to criticism that he was a hypocrite for having smoked cigarrettes while live-streaming from his studio, Zimmerman said never tries to make his "vices" look cool or appealing, especially to his younger fans. He also expressed concern about what comments like Madonna do to the EDM community: It really hurts me to see rampant ADVOCATION of extreme bullshit lifestyles to a genre that spans pretty much any age gap these days ... I just feel like ive been kicked in the balls for a dollar. I’ve always been into electronic music, as far back as i can remember… and around the beginning, i really do remember the times the events i loved were pretty much outlawed by my city simply due to its speculated over-excessive drug use, and the media coverage that everyone loves to lap up around it. Yeah, that bummed me out… kinda made me feel like… how could something so damn interesting, artful, fun and just plain cool, be frowned upon by most…. but look at us now, allthough not completely, and never like to be completely, the dark veil has been lifted slightly and the music and good times and technology is starting to shine through more and more than “the latest breaking news about such and such a drug found only at these underground TECHNO RAVES - Tonight on fox!” Zimmerman [URL="http://www.spinner.com/2012/03/22/deadmau5-chris-james-the-veldt/"]recently collaborated with Chris James[/URL], a fan who submitted vocals for Zimmerman's new song, [URL="http://soundcloud.com/fuckmylife/the-veldt"]"The Veldt,"[/URL] on Twitter. Since Zimmerman has taken to live-streaming any work he does in his new home studio, the entire process was captured on camera. After being inspired by James' lyrics, Zimmerman took to his blog to explain [URL="http://deadmau5.tumblr.com/post/19570452553/collaborations-songwritting-and-the-like"]why he shuns collaborations with big name artists[/URL] in favor of more organic projects like "The Veldt."[/quote] [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/26/deadmau5--madonna-molly-ultra-_n_1379437.html[/url] So I don't know how you all feel about Deadmau5, but to be honest I find him to be an amazing role model and possibly a genius. You don't have to be a fan of his music to recognize that he is a good human being.

Broken Quotes, and I think Deadmau5 is right on this one.

[quote]"That's your big contribution to EDM? Thats your big message to ultra attendies? hipsterspeak for looking for drugs? fuck off you fucking IDIOT."[/quote] haha, didn't know he was this awesome

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Deadmau5 has been known to be fucking awesome, and I'm proud to be a fan of his music

Don't like Deadmau5 and my friends who think he's the ONLY artist of his genre but he is right on the money at least in this case. The fuck you have to promote drug usage to make money. Just think about all the people aren't taking ecstacy before she said that and now how many people she's changed just because of that one half-assed comment on stage

Funny thing - MDMA and LSD aren't chemically addictive drugs, but it's not well known at all.

Well what makes his opinion so right and others so wrong? He sounds very grossly opinionated from the quoted tweets in the article, at least on this one topic. Drugs are a choice, people who choose not to do it seem to always want to disregard the opinions of those who choose to, it's very childish. If he wants to distance himself from those who do that kind of thing thats fine, but he chose a very stupid way of doing it by publically attacking someone who did something that sounds like not a big deal. I mean, I would have thought it was a stupid thing to say as well, but I wouldn't freak out about it like a ninny. I've never heard any of his music before actually. I do hate that stupid mouse head marketing gimmick thing he has everywhere though, musicians should be about music, like he just contradicted himself by saying in this thread, hey...

Ecstasy pills often contain meth, which IS addictive, but pure MDMA and true LSD has no chemically addictive qualities.

I think his music is horrible but I at least agree with him on this.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;35311498]Well what makes his opinion so right and others so wrong? He sounds very grossly opinionated from the quoted tweets in the article, at least on this one topic. Drugs are a choice, people who choose not to do it seem to always want to disregard the opinions of those who choose to, it's very childish. If he wants to distance himself from those who do that kind of thing thats fine, but he chose a very stupid way of doing it by publically attacking someone who did something that sounds like not a big deal. I mean, I would have thought it was a stupid thing to say as well, but I wouldn't freak out about it like a ninny.[/QUOTE] He's freaking out more because there were young people in the crowd. And he's tried for years to try and break the stereotype that raves are some sort of ecstasy hot spot. And for Madonna to come out and act like ecstasy is so cool breaks that.

[QUOTE=archangel125;35311518]Ecstasy pills often contain meth, which IS addictive, but pure MDMA and true LSD has no chemically addictive qualities.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure ecstasy cut with meth is rare [editline]1[/editline] well not as prominent as anti-drug nerds make it out to be

How does Deadmou5 not know that the majority of people at his concert are poppin' pills like tic-tacs?

[QUOTE=Ybbats;35311498]Well what makes his opinion so right and others so wrong? He sounds very grossly opinionated from the quoted tweets in the article, at least on this one topic. Drugs are a choice, people who choose not to do it seem to always want to disregard the opinions of those who choose to, it's very childish. If he wants to distance himself from those who do that kind of thing thats fine, but he chose a very stupid way of doing it by publically attacking someone who did something that sounds like not a big deal. I mean, I would have thought it was a stupid thing to say as well, but I wouldn't freak out about it like a ninny.[/QUOTE] He might be overdoing it, but part of the reason he's so pissed off is because some genres of music - his own included - used to be harassed, discredited and so forth due to media association with drugs. When you're at a music concert and then, out of nowhere, this big-time celebrity and music star drops a drug reference in a comment to the audience, well, I can see why Deadmau would flip his shit.

[QUOTE=archangel125;35311462]Funny thing - MDMA and LSD aren't chemically addictive drugs, but it's not well known at all.[/QUOTE] A drug's a drug. I'm sitting with Dead here. I honestly think Madonna was trying to be 'hip and cool' by throwing out some lingo. I can't really cast a judgment beyond that.

[QUOTE=Griml3xx;35311543]How does Deadmou5 not know that the majority of people at his concert are poppin' pills like tic-tacs?[/QUOTE] He knows that most of his fans are on something, but the point was that Madonna was referencing drug use to be trendy with the crowd. He's angry because she's reinforcing stereotypes and making it seem acceptable.

[QUOTE=Ybbats;35311498]Well what makes his opinion so right and others so wrong? He sounds very grossly opinionated from the quoted tweets in the article, at least on this one topic. Drugs are a choice, people who choose not to do it seem to always want to disregard the opinions of those who choose to, it's very childish. If he wants to distance himself from those who do that kind of thing thats fine, but he chose a very stupid way of doing it by publically attacking someone who did something that sounds like not a big deal. I mean, I would have thought it was a stupid thing to say as well, but I wouldn't freak out about it like a ninny. I've never heard any of his music before actually. I do hate that stupid mouse head marketing gimmick thing he has everywhere though, musicians should be about music, like he just contradicted himself by saying in this thread, hey...[/QUOTE] The problem is that it helps enforce a stereotype that a lot of electronic music fans would like to avoid. It's like metal music being looked upon as devil worshippers music, or saying that all punks like to wreck things and hurt people. The stereotype that electronic music fans take molly all the time makes all the fans look bad. What parent is going to let their kid go to a concert where they think everyone does drugs? Some, maybe. Not a ton, though.

[QUOTE=Griml3xx;35311543]How does Deadmou5 not know that the majority of people at his concert are poppin' pills like tic-tacs?[/QUOTE] Did you even read the article? He acknowledges that but doesn't condone it.

[QUOTE=Griml3xx;35311543]How does Deadmou5 not know that the majority of people at his concert are poppin' pills like tic-tacs?[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure all major music mixers know their crowd is swallowing that shit like skittles, but he doesn't advocate its use to have a good time, which is what his main gripe is about on Madonna and "molly". What mister raptor head said.

[QUOTE=Griml3xx;35311543]How does Deadmou5 not know that the majority of people at his concert are poppin' pills like tic-tacs?[/QUOTE] I'm sure he knows but he doesn't endorse it like Madonna just did.

[QUOTE=Bryanrocks0;35311528]He's freaking out more because there were young people in the crowd. And he's tried for years to try and break the stereotype that raves are some sort of ecstasy hot spot. And for Madonna to come out and act like ecstasy is so cool breaks that.[/QUOTE] Yeah. To elaborate, my dad was talking about how in the 1980's when he was young he was an "outlier" for taking drugs. People thought it was really weird. Nowadays all my friends do pills and always beg me to come out. Almost everyone I knew from highschool does it now, it's "cool".

[QUOTE=Bryanrocks0;35311528]He's freaking out more because there were young people in the crowd. And he's tried for years to try and break the stereotype that raves are some sort of ecstasy hot spot. And for Madonna to come out and act like ecstasy is so cool breaks that.[/QUOTE]He needs to learn to break the stereotype by being different himself then, cause that's really the only respectable thing you can do.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;35311584]The problem is that it helps enforce a stereotype that a lot of electronic music fans would like to avoid. It's like metal music being looked upon as devil worshippers music, or saying that all punks like to wreck things and hurt people. The stereotype that electronic music fans take molly all the time makes all the fans look bad. What parent is going to let their kid go to a concert where they think everyone does drugs? Some, maybe. Not a ton, though.[/QUOTE] yeah that's cool and all but it's nothing to have a childish tantrum about people should be laughing at this guy for acting like this in public, not stroking his ego

[QUOTE=Sanius;35311538]I'm pretty sure ecstasy cut with meth is rare [editline]1[/editline] well not as prominent as anti-drug nerds make it out to be[/QUOTE] Fairly common, actually. Well, that's half true. There are ecstasy pills cut with meth, or even heroin. The thing is that you generally ask for those specific "brands"(or w/e) of pill. It's probably fairly rare for a kid to get a meth cut pill his first time taking ecstasy, unless the person he bought it from is a douche.

[QUOTE=yawmwen;35311615]Fairly common, actually. Well, that's half true. There are ecstasy pills cut with meth, or even heroin. The thing is that you generally ask for those specific "brands"(or w/e) of pill. It's probably fairly rare for a kid to get a meth cut pill his first time taking ecstasy, unless the person he bought it from is a douche.[/QUOTE] sure but the way people talk about it is like people take ecstasy without knowing what it's cut with. like it's some epidemic

Madonna's a rockstar. And she's probably tried that drug, and knows others have, too. Yeah, it's not a great example to set for all the kids out there about as sharp as a bowling ball, but it wasn't exactly a terrible, evil comment, nor does it really make her (more of) a tool.

he's a bad at music and who cares what she says

[QUOTE=Sanius;35311640]sure but the way people talk about it is like people take meth without knowing what it's cut with. like it's some epidemic[/QUOTE] True. People take the small bit of truth(that there are ecstasy pills cut with hard drugs), and blow it out or proportion.

Why is Madonna still allowed to do things in general

Who gives a damn? Really. Deadmau5 is overreacting or being an attention-whore, and Madonna's your typical drug-loving rock star. Who gives a shit what she says? If kids are dumb enough to do drugs irresponsibly because a celebrity likes to do them, then it's something we call Natural Selection.