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[quote=PressTv] NATO has agreed to a request by the Turkish premier to hold an emergency meeting over the fatal Israeli raid on the Gaza-bound Freedom Flotilla.
"Planning is underway for a meeting at the request of the Turkish authorities tomorrow afternoon," James Appathurai, a spokesman for the alliance, said in a Monday statement.
NATO is deeply concerned about the loss of life in international waters, he added, AFP reported.
Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan had earlier denounced the assault and called for a meeting by the military alliance.
Erdogan pledged a proper response to the brutal Israeli attacks which killed 20 activists, including dozens of Turkish nationals.
"It should be known that we will not stay silent and unresponsive in the face of this inhuman state terror," Erdogan said.
The Freedom Flotilla was seeking to break Israel's three-year-long blockade of Gaza and deliver basic necessities to the impoverished Palestinians living in the coastal enclave.
The convoy, however, came under attack by Israeli navy in international waters more than 150 km (90 miles) off the coast of Gaza.
The international community has censured the move, with many European countries summoning Israeli ambassadors. [/quote]
[release][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO"]NATO[/URL] is holding an emergency meeting on June 1, 2010 in response to the attack.[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_reactions_to_the_Gaza_flotilla_clash#cite_note-5"][6[/URL]]Turkey is a NATO signatory, and Article 5 of the NATO charter states that armed attacks against one or more NATO members in Europe or North America will be considered an attack against all of them, and each will take action (including the possibility of armed force) "to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area." [highlight]Article 6 explicitly mentions the Mediterranean Sea as a location for where attacks will trigger responses.[/highlight][7] [/release]
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I swear if we make them pay money only I'm gonna be pissed
I hope they don't piss each other off enough to start a war.
[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;22299759]I swear if we make them pay money only I'm gonna be pissed[/QUOTE]
Sanctions would be nice.
You know like 50 years ago this would mean war.
50 years ago WAS war.
Lets avoid turning this topic into a shitstorm.
Oh right, Sanctions on a major trade partner, that's gonna happen.
Stop crying for war too, it's not going to happen and even Turkey knows that.
Israel's fucked :v:
[quote]
NATO is deeply concerned about the loss of life in international waters, he added, AFP reported.[/quote]So are some of you still thinking isn't international waters?
I somehow put my trust more to several news agencies, NATO and UN than one single picture from the Internet.
Oh, and i hope we can get as peacefully out of this as possible. The Freedom flotilla didn't sail there to start another war.
As I said in the other thread, court marshal every fucking person linked to that incident and send them away for life, or just shoot them.
[QUOTE=Miktor.;22299937]So are some of you still thinking isn't international waters?
I somehow put my trust more to several news agencies, NATO and UN than one single picture from the Internet.
Oh, and i hope we can get as peacefully out of this as possible. The Freedom flotilla didn't sail there to start another war.[/QUOTE]
Blasphemer! Nothing trumps the holy word of Wikipedia!
[QUOTE=Devodiere;22299898]Oh right, Sanctions on a major trade partner, that's gonna happen.
Stop crying for war too, it's not going to happen and even Turkey knows that.[/QUOTE]
The US goods is under limited sanctions when being imported into the UK.
Mostly under the form of heavy taxation of American goods. This was because they flouted some agreements a few years back.
So yes, it can happen to anyone.
Oh and Israel goods are already under sanction by some NATO members. Especially those produced by settlers.
Sanctions would be good. I don't expect much more than that.
[QUOTE=Crimor;22299958]As I said in the other thread, court marshal every fucking person linked to that incident and send them away for life, or just shoot them.[/QUOTE]
Uh no.
They fucked up bad, but not badly enough for that. At most being suspended from duty or fired from their positions would be adequate.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;22299979]The US goods is under limited sanctions when being imported into the UK.
Mostly under the form of heavy taxation of American goods. This was because they flouted some agreements a few years back.
So yes, it can happen to anyone.
Oh and Israel goods are already under sanction by some NATO members. Especially those produced by settlers.[/QUOTE]
I agree that would be a good solution, there's not a lot they can do to boss them around so treating them like a big boy and giving them heavy taxes might do some good.
I was refering more to the complete economic and political sanctions that are inflicted on North Korea and people expecting them to happen here, that kind of sanction sounds more like a monetary penalty than a form of isolation.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;22300015]Uh no.
They fucked up bad, but not badly enough for that. At most being suspended from duty or fired from their positions would be adequate.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/10201165.stm[/URL]
They were getting smacked by metal poles as they were boarding the ship.
if there's anyone who doesn't understand it's like that situation with eazy-e, Ice cube and Dr Dre except its israel ,Turkey and others.
[QUOTE=Morphus;22300438][URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/10201165.stm[/URL]
They were getting smacked by mental poles as they were boarding the ship.[/QUOTE]
Oh congratulations you thank someone who thoroughly dislikes the IDF and Israel defending them by linking me to something I already saw and acting smug
TY I will never do this again
[QUOTE=Morphus;22300438][URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/10201165.stm[/URL][/quote]
That's nice except it's like 40 seconds long in what would have taken much longer. Where are the prior engagements, what happened before that and after that? Obviously the IDF is going to spin the video on their favor.
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Okay, that was weird with the quote. The reply button didn't close the tag.
At least spell metal correctly
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Nice Morrowind reference, Kagrenak :3:
IDF: LOL we're forcefully seizing a ship, Oh look People defending themselves with Household items! shoot them!.
I'm hoping NATO will do SOMETHING, Israel has gone on this "We can do what ever we want" tirade long enough.
[QUOTE=goon165;22300553]IDF: LOL we're forcefully seizing a ship, Oh look People defending themselves with Household items! shoot them!.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps you should the watch the videos and hear accounts from both sides before you make stupid comments like that.
[QUOTE=DogGunn;22300619]Perhaps you should the watch the videos and hear accounts from both sides before you make stupid comments like that.[/QUOTE]
But the IDF were forcefully seizing the ship. And the civilians were defending them selves.
That is indisputable. Because that is the entire event.
[QUOTE=NoDachi;22300652]But the IDF were forcefully seizing the ship. And the civilians were defending them selves.
That is indisputable. Because that is the entire event.[/QUOTE]
Also the IDF recovered precisely [B]ZERO[/B] firearms but said that they were shot at by the people on board witch in turn force them to open fire.
there's quite a difference between hitting someone with a chair and shooting them dead.
[QUOTE=goon165;22300791]
there's quite a difference between hitting someone with a chair and shooting them dead.[/QUOTE]
You can die from both.
The real question is why they needed to board the ship anyway, besides just feeling butthurt that aid was going to gaza.
[QUOTE=goon165;22300791]Also the IDF recovered precisely [B]ZERO[/B] firearms but said that they were shot at by the people on board witch in turn force them to open fire.
there's quite a difference between hitting someone with a chair and shooting them dead.[/QUOTE]
Assault is assault is assault, and whether or not the person forcefully boarding your ship is shooting at you or coming at you with a chair, especially when sailing in that region, you defend yourself by any means possible.
[QUOTE=Omali;22300909]Assault is assault is assault, and whether or not the person forcefully boarding your ship is shooting at you or coming at you with a chair, especially when sailing in that region, you defend yourself by any means possible.[/QUOTE]
That still doesn't change the fact that they were attack because they supposedly fired at the IDF, when all they had was household items. Next time, read.
[QUOTE=CheeseMan;22300015]Uh no.
They fucked up bad, but not badly enough for that. At most being suspended from duty or fired from their positions would be adequate.[/QUOTE]
I agree that the grunts should only be dishonorably discharged, but the officers behind this should be court marshalled.
[QUOTE=Morphus;22300438][URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/10201165.stm[/URL]
They were getting smacked by mental poles as they were boarding the ship.[/QUOTE]
If gun wielding strangers boarded my ship, I'd whack them with metal poles too
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