• Kratom ban fails to pass, DEA retracts emergency Schedule I order amidst public backlash
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[QUOTE]Bowing to public pressure, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) said on Thursday it had delayed a decision on whether to classify the botanical substance kratom, which is available online in the United States as a dietary supplement, as a dangerous drug with no medicinal use. The leaves of the kratom tree, native to Southeast Asia, can be used as a stimulant or sedative. They are typically brewed into a tea, chewed, smoked or ingested in capsules for pain and anxiety, often as a substitute for opioids or heroin. The substance is also growing in popularity as recreational drug. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.foxnews.com/health/2016/10/13/dea-delays-decision-on-kratom-ban-after-public-backlash.html[/url] Remember how everyone says 'it's not even worth trying to push back blah blah blah we have no power'? Well, just take a look at this. it's fox news so take the anti-drug propaganda with a brick of salt. The last thing we need is another substance pushed to the black market.
[url]https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/10/13/2016-24659/withdrawal-of-notice-of-intent-to-temporarily-place-mitragynine-and-7-hydroxymitragynine-into[/url] Submit comments guys!
Make it illegal? What's the fucking point? Why are we allowed to put 190 proof everclear in our bodies, which destroys your liver and brain cells, can cause addiction and is one of the few drugs that can have fatal withdrawal, but eating a fucking plant or smoking weed is illegal? What is the logic here ??????? [editline]15th October 2016[/editline] I wouldn't be surprised if pharmaceutical companies paid off the DEA to keep weed and stuff like that illegal
[QUOTE=Kylel999;51207871]Make it illegal? What's the fucking point? Why are we allowed to put 190 proof everclear in our bodies, which destroys your liver and brain cells, can cause addiction and is one of the few drugs that can have fatal withdrawal, but eating a fucking plant or smoking weed is illegal? What is the logic here ??????? [editline]15th October 2016[/editline] [B][I] I wouldn't be surprised if pharmaceutical companies paid off the DEA to keep weed and stuff like that illegal[/I][/B][/QUOTE] [I]Because that is exactly what is happening and has been happening since the prohibition on cannabis was made almost a century ago.[/I] Cannabis used to be a part of actual medicines before the prohibition, it was used to make rope, paper, building materials and numerous kinds of products. Henry Ford used it [I]to make a car[/I]. It threatens the profit of these large industries and thus they need to keep it down but the internet is giving increasing awareness to what is going on.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51207911][I]Because that is exactly what is happening and has been happening since the prohibition on cannabis was made almost a century ago.[/I] Cannabis used to be a part of actual medicines before the prohibition, it was used to make rope, paper, building materials and numerous kinds of products. Henry Ford used it [I]to make a car[/I]. It threatens the profit of these large industries and thus they need to keep it down but the internet is giving increasing awareness to what is going on.[/QUOTE] Que Sobotonik posting about how Hemp is a inefficient material and was never competitive with any other industry ever. Not sure the validity of that. There is a serious effort on their part to keep it illegal though.
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;51207921]Que Sobotonik posting about how Hemp is a inefficient material and was never competitive with any other industry ever. Not sure the validity of that. There is a serious effort on their part to keep it illegal though.[/QUOTE] hemp was never illegal in many other countries though [url]http://eiha.org/[/url] [url]http://eiha.org/media/2016/05/16-05-17-European-Hemp-Industry-2013.pdf[/url] [quote]They are mainly used for insulation material and for bio-composites in automotive applications. Before the rediscovery of industrial hemp in Europe in the 1990s, hemp fibres were mainly (>95%) used for speciality pulp & paper. Because of the high price of hemp pulp – about five times higher than wood pulp – the applications were limited to cigarette (the main market) and bible paper, technical filters and bank notes. The hemp pulp and paper market was a relatively stable market in recent decades, but on the other hand there is no market expansion expected and the market is risky because, from a technical point of view, today hemp and flax pulp could be substituted in most applications by a cheaper Kraft wood pulp with specific additives.[/quote] hemp was never really illegal in europe - and most prohibitions against it are either light or were dropped the real problem with hemp is that it's simply not economically viable. i think hemp should be legal but it's going to do fuckall to the industries that make ropes and building materials [editline]15th October 2016[/editline] hemp cultivation even went into decline in the 18th century in europe - long before the drug wars
I've seen a bunch of hemp related products anyways so it doesn't seem like it's screwed with the hemp industry too badly anyways. If anything it would just get better once the whole stigma against the plant in general is gone
the truth is it was all made illegal because "hurr durr it makes white women want to have sex with black people". Ofc they're not gonna say that today, but that's where the roots of modern prohibition are. The current justice system today is literally a legal form of slavery and it's all okay because only bad people go to prison and they need to be severely punished. [video=youtube;sbjHOBJzhb0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbjHOBJzhb0[/video] relevant
Who cares about hemp (its useless for industry purposes today anyway) but the medical applications for weed are amazing.
Okay now we should do the same for weed but in a much more aggressive campagin and free imprisioned users.
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;51207911][I]Because that is exactly what is happening and has been happening since the prohibition on cannabis was made almost a century ago.[/I] Cannabis used to be a part of actual medicines before the prohibition, it was used to make rope, paper, building materials and numerous kinds of products. Henry Ford used it [I]to make a car[/I]. It threatens the profit of these large industries and thus they need to keep it down but the internet is giving increasing awareness to what is going on.[/QUOTE] the only reason why coke and weed were made illegal was because the dea needed to justify its existence on a budget and spent millions then to convince people it was causing black men to become violent rapists that specifically targeted white women. the pharmacutical industry actually lost money when this stuff got outlawed because they had products that were hemp and coke based that did help people [editline]16th October 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=SpaceGhost;51208346]Who cares about hemp (its useless for industry purposes today anyway) but the medical applications for weed are amazing.[/QUOTE] it could make a comeback as a replacement for wood pulp paper much like bamboo paper. [editline]16th October 2016[/editline] its never going to comeback in industrial ropemaking because synthetic ropes are so much better
[QUOTE=Sableye;51212573]the only reason why coke and weed were made illegal was because the dea needed to justify its existence on a budget and spent millions then to convince people it was causing black men to become violent rapists that specifically targeted white women. the pharmacutical industry actually lost money when this stuff got outlawed because they had products that were hemp and coke based that did help people[/QUOTE] Hospitals are still given access to some illegal drugs :v: cocaine hydrochloride is used as a topical anaesthetic for very minor surgeries, and diacetyl morphine (which is medically pure heroin and I was recently given it in the hospital...) is used for pain because it absorbs and affects the body 8x stronger than regular morphine. That way the hospital only needs to use 1/8th as much pain medications.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;51207992]hemp was never illegal in many other countries though [url]http://eiha.org/[/url] [url]http://eiha.org/media/2016/05/16-05-17-European-Hemp-Industry-2013.pdf[/url] hemp was never really illegal in europe - and most prohibitions against it are either light or were dropped the real problem with hemp is that it's simply not economically viable. i think hemp should be legal but it's going to do fuckall to the industries that make ropes and building materials [editline]15th October 2016[/editline] hemp cultivation even went into decline in the 18th century in europe - long before the drug wars[/QUOTE] I hear something ticking... Its sobotnik working like clockwork. Tbh this is just proof that there is still some power with the people, be it marginal compared to a true democracy.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51221739]I hear something ticking... Its sobotnik working like clockwork. Tbh this is just proof that there is still some power with the people, be it marginal compared to a true democracy.[/QUOTE] or they never planned on actually banning it, just stirring shit and making people feel like they make a difference
[QUOTE=Quark:;51221882]or they never planned on actually banning it, just stirring shit and making people feel like they make a difference[/QUOTE] who knows, but id rather stay optimistic.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51221950]who knows, but id rather stay optimistic.[/QUOTE] take a look around the world. these are not times to be optimistic during lol
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