Crysis director Cevat Yerli: "If you predict how hardware evolves at the current speed of evolution, - Polidicks

[img_thumb]http://eaassets-a.akamaihd.net/www.crysis.com/sites/default/files/Crysis3_Fields_Psycho_Stalkers.png[/img_thumb] [quote]Crytek boss Cevat Yerli, restricted by non-disclosure agreements with both Microsoft and Sony, told Eurogamer Crysis 3 running on a powerful PC looks better than next-generation games due to be announced. Indeed, he said it is "impossible" for consoles to match gaming PCs. The chief reason behind this, Yerli said, is cost. "Without breaking NDAs that are in place, realistically, from purely a price point perspective, it is impossible. "It's impossible to package $2000-3000 into a mainstream, let's say $500 console. I'm not saying they are $500 consoles. They may launch a console at $2000, but the consumer pricing is usually much lower than that. "So, given consumer pricing, and given the cost of production of a gamer PC and the amount of watt of power it needs, which is like a fridge, it's impossible." Yerli said Crytek's 2009 claim that its CryEngine 3 game engine was "next-gen ready" was the result of internal predictions about hardware evolution. "We used Moore's Law," he said. "If you predict how hardware evolves at the current speed of evolution, and then take consumer pricing evolution, already two years ago you could see, whatever launches in 2013 or 2014 or 2015, will never beat a PC again. "When we went out to GDC we said CryEngine 3 was next-gen ready. That message was born by the research of prediction of where things were going. It was clear we were capable then to make next-gen games because there wouldn't be much more than what the CryEngine could do at that point." Yerli added that console manufacturers face a losing battle in the fight with PCs because of the evolution of PC gaming since the launch of the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. "If you look at PC gaming, that has changed also," he said. "The whole modular way you can design a PC today, with two, three or four graphics cards in them, and you can water cool them and overclock to infinity, that didn't exist even six or seven years ago. You just bought one or maybe two graphics cards and then you were super enthusiastic. "It's very difficult to compete with that. [B]People have these massive nuclear power plants standing in their rooms that will run your games really fast. It's hard to compete with."[/B][/quote] [quote]"This time around the consoles couldn't gain much more," Yerli said. "It was like a five per cent or ten per cent gain. That's it. We gained on consoles visually and perception wise of quality through different techniques, not just brute force technology. So I think it's above Crysis 2 on consoles. "But the PC version, because the specs are now much more evolved, this is two years later, effectively, this is two generations of PCs we could leverage and DirectX 11 is fully rolled out, so now we could really push it. "I made a joke at one point saying, 'we're going to melt PCs,' and I think we are going to melt PCs again. People want that, and we'll deliver that. "With Crysis 2 we tried to make the spec available to as many PC gamers as possible. Then we heard back from the loudest group, which was enthusiast PC gamers, 'our PCs are running this game at 200 frames. What the hell? We should be running at 30 frames.' "Crytek is probably the only company where you read forums and YouTube, people are excited if they can't run the game. I don't think it's like that at any other game company. "Our graphics programmers said, [B]'we're going to give them a game they can't run any more[/B]." [/quote] [url]http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-18-crysis-3-developer-crytek-on-why-its-impossible-for-next-gen-consoles-to-match-the-power-of-gaming-pcs[/url]

At least they have their priorities straight.

the truth needed to be spoken it has

What's with the a at the end of the title?

My computer is now looking at me saying "please don't do this to me, not again"

Christ, that title is almost as long as my dick. Almost.

So basically they want pc gamers to waste even more money just to play a game?

[QUOTE=TheJoker;39632645]What's with the a at the end of the title?[/QUOTE] supposed to be 'again'

In other words, have fun playing games that are inferior to Crysis (graphic wise) untill 2016?? Fuck the console market it's dragging us PC nerds down!!

Good show.

[QUOTE=Zeemlapje;39632672]In other words, have fun playing games that are inferior to Crysis (graphic wise) untill 2016?? Fuck the console market it's dragging us PC nerds down!![/QUOTE] Again. [editline]18th February 2013[/editline] That's not the post I was meant to reply to but whatever.

[QUOTE=hamar;39632658]So basically they want pc gamers to waste even more money just to play a game?[/QUOTE] Nah, it's that they're trying to hit the brink of technology through sheer beauty.

[QUOTE=Clavus;39632623]At least they have their priorities straight.[/QUOTE] Great graphics, okay gameplay? I'd like to see those priorities swapped.

I know he's not an native English speaker, and maybe it's my lack of sleep, but I've re-read that main quote from the title like 5 times and it still doesn't really make sense to me. Someone care to translate?

[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;39632704]Great graphics, okay gameplay? I'd like to see those priorities swapped.[/QUOTE] I think he means that Crytek is basically saying you shouldn't develop for the lowest common denominator (consoles being decidedly worse than the average PC in terms of performance).

[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;39632704]Great graphics, okay gameplay? I'd like to see those priorities swapped.[/QUOTE] crysis is pretty great

yes finally what we have all been saying for years now spoken by someone who actually matters in the industry

[QUOTE=The golden;39633023]This news would otherwise make me quite excited but then I remember that Crytek sold out to the console market when they made Crysis 2 and 3. I'll believe it when I see it...[/QUOTE] That being said, Crysis 2 and 3 still visually are leagues ahead of the competition.

This isn't good news unless consoles were to disappear.

Cevat is always talking out of his ass and boosting his ego. Crysis 2 was a massive betrayal to PC gamers (until the DX11 patch came out at least), shitload of features in Crysis disappeared and gameplay lost all of its flavor. This being said, he's right on this one.

[QUOTE=The golden;39633023]This news would otherwise make me quite excited but then I remember that Crytek sold out to the console market when they made Crysis 2 and 3. I'll believe it when I see it...[/QUOTE] And 3? Really? Did you read the part where he says that consoles only got a 5 to 10 percent graphical increase? While the PC version on the other hand advanced so much. Did you play the beta? Did you see how much graphical options they gave us? Crysis 2 was Crytek's first step into the console world. Sure, that would have it's damages to the PC version. But now that they have familiarized themselves with consoles, they can go back to focusing on PC. Also, how is Crysis 3 dumbed down for consoles?

[QUOTE=Bliblixe;39633130]Cevat is always talking out of his ass and boosting his ego. Crysis 2 was a massive betrayal to PC gamers (until the DX11 patch came out at least), shitload of features in Crysis disappeared and gameplay lost all of its flavor. This being said, he's right on this one.[/QUOTE] The whole game was a betrayal. It's not what I imagined we'd get after beating Crysis. It plays like a Crysis Lite instead of Crysis 2.

[QUOTE=The golden;39633132]The thing about Crysis 1 is that if you compare it to every other game released at that time it was YEARS ahead of its time. No game ever matched it until several years later. And while it had a mediocre story in places, [B]the more open level design was also unheard of at that scale for a SP FPS[/B]. Crysis 2/3 are visually good looking games but they're not the computer-crushers that their predecessor was. They're also MUCH more linear, the maps are smaller, and corners cut for console support. They don't have that "holy shit this game is so ahead of its time" look to them. In fact, in many areas Crysis 1 not only looked better but was more feature-filled.[/QUOTE] Did you forget FarCry existed or something?

[QUOTE=alien_guy;39633343]Did you forget FarCry existed or something?[/QUOTE] The only thing I hear about FarCry is how it expects you to be stealthy with enemies that spot you from 10 miles away.

[QUOTE=The golden;39633132]The thing about Crysis 1 is that if you compare it to every other game released at that time it was YEARS ahead of its time. No game ever matched it until several years later. And while it had a mediocre story in places, the more open level design was also unheard of at that scale for a SP FPS. Crysis 2/3 are visually good looking games but they're not the computer-crushers that their predecessor was. They're also MUCH more linear, the maps are smaller, and corners cut for console support. They don't have that "holy shit this game is so ahead of its time" look to them. In fact, in many areas Crysis 1 not only looked better but was more feature-filled.[/QUOTE] The margin for improvement based on hardware that is currently available for Crysis 3 is leagues behind that for Crysis 1.

[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;39633372]The only thing I hear about FarCry is how it expects you to be stealthy with enemies that spot you from 10 miles away.[/QUOTE] This is actually explained in-game by a dude helping you. You're wearing a bright red Hawaiian shirt. You're supposed to be harder to see if you have body armor on but I never noticed if it made much of a difference. That said, you CAN be stealthy.

I don't get this idea that good gaming PCs are $3000+ monstrosities that look like the Obelisk from 2001 standing in the corner of the room. I built my PC for about $1000 five years ago, since then the only thing I have replaced is the graphics card (another $300). You don't need a fantastic PC to beat consoles.

[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;39632704]Great graphics, okay gameplay? I'd like to see those priorities swapped.[/QUOTE] I think he meant priorities as in PC first, Consoles second and not the other way around like most big devs do today.

[quote]"With Crysis 2 we tried to make the spec available to as many PC gamers as possible. Then we heard back from the loudest group, which was enthusiast PC gamers, 'our PCs are running this game at 200 frames. What the hell? We should be running at 30 frames.' "Crytek is probably the only company where you read forums and YouTube, people are excited if they can't run the game. I don't think it's like that at any other game company.[/quote] "Your game is no longer challenging my PC, what the fuck is going on"

Wasn't Crysis 2 the game with the awful graphics optimisation? With only 3 options labeled as 'gamer', 'hardcore' and 'advanced' that literally made no sense.