Jay Z's Tidal music streaming service is already a spectacular flop
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[QUOTE]When Tidal made its big media push at the end of March, the core message was clear: While other streaming music services like Spotify and Pandora pay a pittance to artists, Tidal offers musicians a better deal. Two weeks after Tidal briefly cracked the U.S. iPhone top 20 download chart, the app has crashed out of the top 700. To make matters worse for Tidal, its main rivals are now surging. On April 20th, Pandora and Spotify occupied No. 3 and No. 4 on the U.S. iPhone revenue chart, respectively[/QUOTE]
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who would have guessed... :rolleyes:
Saw it coming miles away. It was a terrible idea to begin with.
Your trying to make a music service in a market already saturated with such services. Obviously it isn't going to be a great success.
Then again, who knows it might pick up.
So uh, what was the consumer-facing hook?
"It's the same as Spotify, but we keep more of your money!"
they wanted to take the industry by storm, but the surge they expected was just a drop in the ocean, and now they're already washed up
I don't know how they thought charging double the price of Spotify would allow them to compete.
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who would have guessed... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
Everyone
[QUOTE=Josher;47571690]I don't know how they thought charging double the price of Spotify would allow them to compete.[/QUOTE]
No no, see, they are better for artists because it's artist-run and they get twice the royalties they would get on Spotify, because we're so generous and caring. Don't mind the fact that people have to pay double, you get double too! It's flawless!
List of all the people who were surprised:
A Tidal Wave of disappointment.
Rumors say Daft Punk may be working on new house album and may be releasing it on Tidal first or something like that.
[QUOTE=RocketRacer;47571779]Rumors say Daft Punk may be working on new house album and may be releasing it on Tidal first or something like that.[/QUOTE]
That's fine, I can wait a bit.
Meanwhile, Mumford and Sons are laughing their asses off right now.
[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;47571657]So uh, what was the consumer-facing hook?
"It's the same as Spotify, but we keep more of your money!"[/QUOTE]
The selling point was higher-quality music and exclusive releases.
Music service by the artists.
The incredibly rich artists.
The incredibly incredibly rich artists.
Uploading release videos about their high quality streaming in 420p
[QUOTE=Killuah;47571842]Music service by the artists.
The incredibly rich artists.
The incredibly incredibly rich artists.
Uploading release videos about their high quality streaming in 420p[/QUOTE]
no u dont understand no one likes them or cares about them
which explains national media covering everything they do
[QUOTE=Corndog Ninja;47571822]The selling point was higher-quality music and exclusive releases.[/QUOTE]
Exclusive releases of music in this day in age?
Nah that shits straight up a scam. Shit would be on youtube in seconds or anywhere else.
I had no idea this was a thing. They clearly didn't advertise it very well.
Wasn't their design (at least the Desktop version) basically a copy of how Spotify looks?
Also I don't think anyone is surprised by these news.
as an art, it's you decision to release and distribute it any way you want. When you choose so to do it this way, it kind of gives off the feeling that your primary concern for your music is turning a profit.
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their whole campaign was based on "support the artists!" yet the only artists I see here are ones that clearly don't need any additional support.
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how in any possible way, would tidal help out small-time, indie, or up-and-coming artists in this hella exclusive platform?
[QUOTE=RocketRacer;47571779]Rumors say Daft Punk may be working on new house album and may be releasing it on Tidal first or something like that.[/QUOTE]
Rumors are false. Daft Punk has pretty consistently made an album every four years, and it hasn't even been two.
the pile of money i sleep on every night is too uncomfortable, by subscribing to tidal premium you can help artists like me facing hardship and strife
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;47571958]Exclusive releases of music in this day in age?
Nah that shits straight up a scam. Shit would be on youtube in seconds or anywhere else.[/QUOTE]
I'd put money on a lot of material getting leaked before it even get's released. Maybe a few minutes. Maybe a few months. Who knows.
Regardless, yes, there is no such thing as exclusive anymore for this sort of content.
[QUOTE=asXas;47572083]Wasn't their design (at least the Desktop version) basically a copy of how Spotify looks?
Also I don't think anyone is surprised by these news.[/QUOTE]
Yes it's a blatant ripoff. They even copied a lot of the icons Spotify uses for music categories. They're just lucky they didn't have a lawsuit.
Throwing my two cents in here, I went to the Tidal site to see what the service was all about, and the standard audio quality is pretty garbage on a few of the artists I looked up. So, yeah, think I'll stick with Spotify.
This service looks like fucking shit
It's idealized by a bunch of rich, successful people who want to get even wealthier and are kind of playing the victims
Also, that video released to promote is hilarious. They act like they are about to end world's hunger
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;47572305]Yes it's a blatant ripoff. They even copied a lot of the icons Spotify uses for music categories. They're just lucky they didn't have a lawsuit.[/QUOTE]
Source?
[QUOTE=RocketRacer;47571779]Rumors say Daft Punk may be working on new house album and may be releasing it on Tidal first or something like that.[/QUOTE]
Needledrop spoke about how doing this kind of shit will just encourage more to people to pirate the track before it comes available on spotify. Exclusives (especially in music) don't quite work in an era where anything gets uploaded to torrent sites the minute it is launched
Everyone in the pic looks dead on the inside
I'm happy somebody made an effort to push better quality audio, I'm just sad it was crippled with such godawful marketing.
Spotify on mobile starts at 96kbps which is horrible. I [I]constantly[/I] see people use default-quality Spotify streams on thousand-dollar speaker systems. You can bump it up to 160kbps - but most people don't, and very very few people would bump it up to 320kbps because it starts to be a more noticeable hit on your mobile data cap.
FLAC streaming isn't a bad idea, but iPhones don't have amps and the average person doesn't own headphones good enough to tell the difference with. The people who care about having higher-quality audio aren't big enough a market, and they're already at a level of enthusiast where they pirate almost every single album they want from private trackers.
I fucking hate listening to 96kbps mobile spotify streams from iphone speakers, but Tidal was doomed to fail because it had shit marketing and it came at a time when data caps seriously limit the amount of streaming you can do. People aren't willing to spend 12MB+ per song just to have such a barely noticeable bump in quality. The only people who even considered spending $20 a month on Tidal are enthusiasts, and they already have access to every song they want - and they spend enough time with their music that they'd have hard drives full of FLAC files and an amp and multiple thousand-dollar headphones.
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