• Richard Hanna becomes first GOP congressman to endorse Hillary Clinton over 'unfit' Trump
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[url]http://www.syracuse.com/opinion/index.ssf/2016/08/rep_richard_hanna_we_should_all_be_done_with_donald_trump_commentary.html[/url] [quote]While I disagree with her on many issues, I will vote for Mrs. Clinton. I will be hopeful and resolute in my belief that being a good American who loves his country is far more important than parties or winning and losing. I trust she can lead. All Republicans may not like the direction, but they can live to win or lose another day with a real candidate. Our response to the public's anger and the need to rebuild requires complex solutions, experience, knowledge and balance. Not bumper sticker slogans that pander to our disappointment, fear and hate.[/quote]
This is politics.
The funny thing is I'd say "That's how you kill a career". But knowing how the main GOP stronghold is in complete silence and oozing hatred. I wouldn't be surprised if its' not over for him.
I hope more follows him, or at very least denounce Trump.
Hopefully the remnants of mainstream conservatism heed his choice and reasoning. [quote]Our response to the public's anger and the need to rebuild requires complex solutions, experience, knowledge and balance. [b]Not bumper sticker slogans that pander to our disappointment, fear and hate.[/b][/quote] This election in a nutshell
[QUOTE=Most wanteD;50818106]Hopefully the remnants of mainstream conservatism heed his choice and reasoning. This election in a nutshell[/QUOTE] that's the most sensible sentence I've heard in a while regarding general politics. contrast with our Michael Gove's "Britain has had enough of experts"
the republican party did this to itself with the ceaseless anti-obama circlejerking [editline]2nd August 2016[/editline] they trained a whole 8-year generation of young adults to buy right into stupid pandering rhetoric
Funny, Hanna is the rep of the county next to mine. I miss Hinchey, and I was sad to see his seat taken by a Republican, but at least Hanna appears to be a decent enough guy.
[QUOTE=smurfy;50817317]All Republicans may not like the direction, [b]but they can live to win or lose another day with a real candidate.[/b][/QUOTE] This. I feel like this is the most important mindset any major player in the Republican party could have at this point. While my views don't entirely align with the Democratic party, they're even farther from that of the Republicans. But I understand the need for two parties, we need a system of checks and balances. And after seeing the spectacle they've put on throughout this whole election cycle, preservation of their party should be their biggest goal at this point, not getting Trump into office. Forget all the rhetoric and ignorance this man has spewed for the last 2 years, when a lot of big name party members are denouncing their own candidate it should be a clear sign to not continue propping this campaign up like some racist alternate universe Weekend At Bernie's. And I understand, the voice of the people is important. They did choose this man. But if a majority of the country took a vote and decided to make me the head of NASA just because they like the way I talk, you'd think I'd at least need some type of experience in the field before they put me in charge of motherfucking space rockets to the god damn moon.
trump talks about how all these people selected him but he only won about 9% of the country, he has to win a much larger chunk now to win the election
[QUOTE=grr164;50819465] And I understand, the voice of the people is important. They did choose this man. But if a majority of the country took a vote and decided to make me the head of NASA just because they like the way I talk, you'd think I'd at least need some type of experience in the field before they put me in charge of motherfucking space rockets to the god damn moon.[/QUOTE] The president nominates the administrator of NASA so if Trump wins you should throw your hat in the ring :v:
Trump also won because every other candidate in the race was absolutely fucking horrible. Mitt Romney and John McCain are fucking LEAGUES better than any of the candidates the GOP got this election.
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;50819674]Trump also won because every other candidate in the race was absolutely fucking horrible. Mitt Romney and John McCain are fucking LEAGUES better than any of the candidates the GOP got this election.[/QUOTE] In some alternate universe, Jeb! is calmly explaining to Bernie about why federal healthcare isn't a good idea while Bernie is fighting to destroy the Bush family dynasty from taking over the country.
Meg Whitman has also denounced Trump as a demagogue and endorsed Clinton [url]http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/08/03/us/politics/meg-whitman-hillary-clinton.html[/url] [editline]3rd August 2016[/editline] Doesn't seem to have been a lot of backlash so far either. Hanna might be the canary in the coalmine for other GOP politicians thinking of openly backing Clinton
Weird how this election might either destroy the two parties or lead to them working together again.
Should drop this here; Two former officials from the George Bush administration have outright made a grassroots movement called "Republicans For Clinton 2016" ("R4C16") [quote]Perhaps the last place you’d expect to find John Stubbs or Ricardo Reyes,[B] two former George W. Bush administration officials and ardent Republicans[/B] who retired from politics years ago, is at the Democratic National Convention in 2016. And yet here they are, posted up in a rented house in downtown Philadelphia, [B]tirelessly promoting their grassroots organization, R4C16, which they launched last month with a singular goal in mind: to get their fellow Republicans to vote for Hillary Clinton in November.[/B] “If you’d told me five years ago this is where I’d be today…” said Reyes, breaking into a laugh. He glanced across the kitchen table at Stubbs, who shrugged ruefully. “Look, if the Republicans had nominated anyone else, we’d be voting for them,” Stubbs said.[/quote] [url]http://time.com/4425217/dnc-hillary-clinton-republicans/[/url]
I can't imagine that many really senior GOP politicians will endorse Clinton because what do they do after that? If she wins, how do you oppose a president who you yourself endorsed? Any criticism of Clinton's administration could be shut down by just saying "well you yourself admitted that she was the best person for the job lol". But, it's 2016 so Paul Ryan will probably be Clinton's new running mate by the end of the week I guess no matter what they do, they're pretty fucked by their association with Trump anyway
[QUOTE=smurfy;50820871]I can't imagine that many really senior GOP politicians will endorse Clinton because what do they do after that? If she wins, how do you oppose a president who you yourself endorsed? Any criticism of Clinton's administration could be shut down by just saying "well you yourself admitted that she was the best person for the job lol". But, it's 2016 so Paul Ryan will probably be Clinton's new running mate by the end of the week I guess no matter what they do they're going to have to face up to "well this is the party that nominated fucking Donald Trump"[/QUOTE] The Republicans supporting Clinton might actually make for a productive 4 years rather than what the Obama administration has dealt with.
It'd be amazing if the party decides to start supporting Hillary instead just to stop the disaster, and we get 4 years of actual improvement than stagnation. [editline]3rd August 2016[/editline] That's what I get for not refreshing the page ^
[QUOTE=smurfy;50820871]I can't imagine that many really senior GOP politicians will endorse Clinton because what do they do after that? If she wins, how do you oppose a president who you yourself endorsed? Any criticism of Clinton's administration could be shut down by just saying "well you yourself admitted that she was the best person for the job lol". But, it's 2016 so Paul Ryan will probably be Clinton's new running mate by the end of the week I guess no matter what they do, they're pretty fucked by their association with Trump anyway[/QUOTE] Well Clinton isn't black so there's not the subtle reason why the GOP wouldn't work with her.
[QUOTE=grr164;50820888]The Republicans supporting Clinton might actually make for a productive 4 years rather than what the Obama administration has dealt with.[/QUOTE] Their support of Clinton in the election doesn't necessarily mean that they'll support them in passing legislation. They'd rather just shoot down Democrat laws in Congress rather than have to run around quelling diplomatic crises that Trump will inevitably set off.
Man if only it was possible to have more than an us and them bipartasan clusterfuck of a two party system, so you're not stuck with tweedle dee and tweedle bumblefuck we can only dream
Richard Hanna seems like a pretty decent guy, as far as Republicans go - shame there weren't more like him on both sides.
This kills the GOP
Ofcourse the GOP supports Clinton she is right wing after all
[QUOTE=Jon MadN;50828716]Ofcourse the GOP supports Clinton she is right wing after all[/QUOTE] Exactly, that's why 97% of her beliefs align with Bernie Sanders.
[QUOTE=bitches;50818185]the republican party did this to itself with the ceaseless anti-obama circlejerking [editline]2nd August 2016[/editline] they trained a whole 8-year generation of young adults to buy right into stupid pandering rhetoric[/QUOTE] It's pretty awful, my parents are talk radio and FOX News diehards (Hannity, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, Shapiro, et al) and man oh man the rhetoric on those shows is that Obama has done [I]nothing[/I] right. I'm not really in touch with whatever the left-wing equivalent is (Maher? Stewart?) but in any event I'm not surprised the country is becoming more and more partisan. Just look at the rise of phrasing like #nevertrump and #neverhillary - it's not "I'm [I]for[/I] this" it's increasingly "fuck those guys"
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