• Israel drafts legislation banning the word "nazi"
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[quote] [B][URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16488042"]Draft legislation in Israel would make it a crime in the country to use the word "Nazi" or symbols of the Holocaust for purposes other than teaching.[/URL][/B] [B]There will be a preliminary hearing in parliament on Wednesday for the bill, which would impose penalties of up to six months in jail and a $25,000 fine.[/B] The move comes a week after ultra-Orthodox Jews dressed in concentration camp uniforms to protest against alleged incitement against them. The incident sparked outrage in Israel. The national Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial denounced the use of Nazi imagery as "disgraceful", and several survivors' groups condemned it. Six million Jews were killed by the Nazis during World War II. About 200,000 ageing survivors of the Holocaust live in Israel. On 31 December, thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews gathered in Jerusalem's Mea She'arim district to protest against what they said was a nationwide campaign by the secular media against their community. They wore yellow Stars of David on their clothes bearing the word "Jude" (German for "Jew"), and dressed their children in striped black-and-white uniforms associated with concentration camps. Israeli police were also called "Nazis". Ultra-Orthodox Jews, who make up 10% of Israel's population, have been criticised in recent weeks for attempting to impose their strict beliefs on others as their population grows and spreads to new areas. Extremist sects have sought to ban the mixing of sexes on buses, pavements and other public spaces. Members of one sect jeered and spat at girls walking to school, saying they were dressed immodestly. Such efforts have been condemned by the Israeli government and triggered widespread demonstrations against the ultra-Orthodox community. At one recent protest, people held signs reading: "Stop Israel becoming Iran." On Monday, the Ministerial Committee for Legislation voted to support the bill which would, according to Israeli media, prohibit the use of all forms of the word "Nazi" or similar-sounding words; epithets associated with Nazism, the Third Reich or any of its leaders; the wearing of striped clothing resembling that worn by prisoners in concentration camps; and yellow stars like the ones Jews were forced to wear during the Holocaust. It would also ban all photographs, drawings, sculptures depicting a swastika or anything else that makes a definitive reference to Nazism. "Unfortunately we have been witness in recent years to the cynical exploitation of Nazi symbols and phraseology, which is offensive to Holocaust survivors, their families, and many others among the Jewish people," said the bill's sponsor, Uri Ariel of the National Union party. "The law constitutes an appropriate warning, and will anchor in law a fitting punishment for the despicable use," he added. However, the draft legislation has been criticised by civil rights groups. "Precisely because of the importance and centrality of the Holocaust, the attempt to dictate when and in what context it can be referenced is very problematic," the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (Acri) said in a statement. "This bill seeks in effect to control the public debate, its content and tone, with force, using criminal prohibitions and the threat of prison." "Freedom of expression is the right to say harsh, critical and even hurtful things. It is the right to give crude and extreme expression to opinions, emotions and thoughts and it also includes the right to make rhetorical use of difficult and provocative images," the Acri statement added.[/quote] You know hitler was against free speech, Israel = hitler?!??!?!
Oy vey
What the fuck
Godwin's Law to the max
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;34148646]Godwin's Law to the max[/QUOTE] Won't be any Godwin's law in Israel after the hearing.
I understand why saying sieg Heil in a serious way is banned here but why would you ban the word nazi? That like banning the word communism.
Well, this IS Israel we're talking about. It's a third-world country with the firepower of the USA behind it.
[QUOTE] The move comes a week after ultra-Orthodox Jews dressed in concentration camp uniforms to protest against alleged incitement against them. [/QUOTE] The protestors in question; [IMG]http://ap.mnocdn.no/incoming/article6731979.ece/ALTERNATES/w780c169/FS00009635.jpg?updated=100120121854[/IMG]
Horrible parents would force their children to protest with them, especially in concentration wear. Besides, they don't even look authentic, they look too well off to be concentration campers.
[QUOTE=archangel125;34148697]Well, this IS Israel we're talking about. It's a third-world country with the firepower of the USA behind it.[/QUOTE] I believe you've misunderstood the definition of a third world country.
does this suprise anyone that a jewish state would condem the word nazi?
what are they supposed to call people who disagree with them then?
1. How did you guys hear about this before I did 2. This is nowhere in any of the media in Israel 3. This sounds like bullshit.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;34148803]what are they supposed to call people who disagree with them then?[/QUOTE] Gnatsies.
good on you israel! speech laws always turn out so great!
they have safely prevented the second coming of the nazis [editline]10th January 2012[/editline] "hans should vee invade israel next?" "No Johan nazis are verbotten"
[QUOTE=Glorbo;34148813]1. How did you guys hear about this before I did 2. This is nowhere in any of the media in Israel 3. This sounds like bullshit.[/QUOTE] Well it is in Norwegian media and some American too. I read about it in the countries most trusted and balanced newspaper, Aftenposten. [url]http://www.aftenposten.no/nyheter/uriks/Vil-gjore-det-ulovlig-a-bruke-ordet-nazist-i-Israel-6738481.html[/url] So I believe it's true. Never seen Aftenposten make a mistake before, believe it or not.
Seriously, this isn't on Walla, or Haaretz, or Ynet, or anything. Are you sure this is even real?
[QUOTE=Glorbo;34148813]1. How did you guys hear about this before I did 2. This is nowhere in any of the media in Israel 3. This sounds like bullshit.[/QUOTE] Just to point out, this is the BBC, not a blog, so it's quite likely that it's true - the BBC rarely reports shit outside of the technology section. (where they're always late)
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;34148776]does this suprise anyone that a jewish state would condem the word nazi?[/QUOTE] Condemning Nazis is not surprising, condemning Nazi imagery is not surprising, condemning the word Nazi is both surprising and stupid.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;34148848]Seriously, this isn't on Walla, or Haaretz, or Ynet, or anything. Are you sure this is even real?[/QUOTE] Here's an Israeli source; [url]http://www.thejc.com/news/israel-news/61662/israel-looks-ban-use-nazi-symbols[/url]
What do they call nazis then? German national-socialists from World War 2?
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;34148885]What do they call nazis then? German national-socialists from World War 2?[/QUOTE] Those things. Y'know, the things in the thing. With the guys and stuff. And that one guy.
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;34148885]What do they call nazis then? German national-socialists from World War 2?[/QUOTE] Jack-boot and trenchcoat enthusiasts, I think.
[QUOTE=Glorbo;34148848]Seriously, this isn't on Walla, or Haaretz, or Ynet, or anything. Are you sure this is even real?[/QUOTE] it's on bbc so it seems legitimate maybe your media is ignoring/censoring the info?
Not gonna pass though, the Knesset committee approves almost anything. This is just political dick waving. Even if it does pass, I doubt anyone would even enforce it. [editline]10th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Kopimi;34148931] maybe your media is ignoring/censoring the info?[/QUOTE] Maybe, who knows. Not the first time it happens.
If we could only prosecute bill O riley and glenn beck using a similar law. Something I would be OK with. Too bad bills of attainder are illegal under the constitution.
I'm meeting a holocaust survivor tomorrow, I should ask them what they think of this. I bet they'll say something along the lines of "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"
[QUOTE=jaykray;34149046]I'm meeting a holocaust survivor tomorrow, I should ask them what they think of this. I bet they'll say something along the lines of "those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"[/QUOTE] Of which faction?
[QUOTE=dickpickle;34149088]Of which faction?[/QUOTE] Ottoman empire
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