Facebook 'rape' page to stay despite charity criticism
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[TD][release] Global [SUB][SUP][URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/15130624"](BBC)[/URL][/SUP][/SUB] - [B]Facebook has been criticised for not removing a controversial page which victim support charities say trivializes and jokes about rape.[/B]
Facebook has been criticised for not removing a controversial page which victim support charities say trivialises and jokes about rape.
The group page, called "You know she's playing hard to get when your chasing her down an alleyway", has 194,370 likes on the social networking site.
Victim support groups have called it "disgusting".
Companies that advertise on Facebook have demanded their adverts be removed from the page.
Orlagh, a 22-year-old student from Belfast who did not want to disclose her full name, saw the page and became concerned.
She said: "This is not just a joke. There are people on there who are advocating rape and there are people on there apparently confessing to rape.
"Facebook is a significant social force and it gives quite a worrying picture of how they view women if breastfeeding is considered obscene and rape is not."
On its terms and conditions Facebook said: "You will not post content that is hateful, threatening, or pornographic; incites violence; or contains nudity or graphic or gratuitous violence."
Orlagh and many victim support charities argue that this group breaches these rules.
They have started a petition calling for the page to be removed.
[B]Advertisers' concerns[/B]
When first contacted by the BBC in August, Facebook refused to remove the page saying the site wanted to allow freedom of expression.
"It is very important to point out that what one person finds offensive another can find entertaining, just as telling a rude joke won't get you thrown out of your local pub, it won't get you thrown off Facebook," a statement said.
Some of the big companies that pay Facebook to advertise on the social networking site have asked for their adverts to be removed from the group.
Sony, American Express and BlackBerry have had their demands answered and in the last few days all advertising has been removed on the group.
Despite this pressure Facebook has maintained its position.
A further statement said: "Groups or pages that express an opinion on a state, institution, or set of beliefs - even if that opinion is outrageous or offensive to some - do not by themselves violate our policies.
"These online discussions are a reflection of those happening offline, where conversations happen freely in people's homes, in cafes and on the telephone."
It said that more than 800 million people around the world used Facebook as a place to discuss and share things that are important to them.
It states these can be about controversial topics but does not mean they violate its policies.
On the site many users defend the page.
Tinamarie Smith agrees with Facebook and said it was about freedom of speech.
She said: "This group has nothing to do with rape its only a bit of fun if u don't like it then don't read it... I'm not saying rape is a good thing its very bad but when ur stressing someone about a joke then u really need to get a life."[/release]
Trying out the way mac338 made his post for a news article, really liked the layout.
Anyways, I couldn't help but laugh when I read this part.
[quote]The group page, called "You know she's playing hard to get when your chasing her down an alleyway", has 194,370 likes on the social networking site.[/quote]
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It's a crude joke, no more. Bloody feminists.
[quote]I'm not saying rape is a good thing its very bad but when ur stressing someone about a joke then u really need to get a life."[/quote]
She does realize that can easily be turned around in the form of 'when you're making jokes about something like rape, you really need to get a life'?
Free speech does not mean you should speak; this is disgusting.
we marginalize rape all the time anyway.
how many times have you heard someone say they got raped when they lost in a game?
If the page was simply called 'rape', I'd agree with this, but I don't really think anyone's actually advocating it with the title as it is. It's just a simple, albeit crude joke.
[QUOTE=thisispain;32695192]we marginalize rape all the time anyway.
how many times have you heard someone say they got raped when they lost in a game?[/QUOTE]
Or an army that has been horribly raped by its opponent.
It seems to be a term that says that the losing side/victim suffered an incredibly bad defeat.
[QUOTE=thisispain;32695192]we marginalize rape all the time anyway.
how many times have you heard someone say they got raped when they lost in a game?[/QUOTE]
This. Although I don't know that it's an excuse.
If you're writing frivolously on your Facebook page that you just got raped in a game/maths test/whatever and you have 200 friends, statistically speaking you're reminding like 33 people of one of the worst experiences of their life.
Radio 1 were talking about how awesome Jimmy Carr is the other day, and his jokes are much more offensive than this group. Talk about hypocrisy.
Are we going to use that layout in every thread now?
[QUOTE=thisispain;32695192]we marginalize rape all the time anyway.
how many times have you heard someone say they got raped when they lost in a game?[/QUOTE]
Also it's fine to joke about guys getting raped, or hoping that when someone goes to prison that they get raped.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDVeq4t4h0[/media]
Oh boohoo. Everyone jokes about everything. I'm Scottish, I insult the Irish. The Irish insult us. People make 9/11 jokes. People make holocaust jokes.
People need to grow the fuck up. I'd rather we took everything in good humour instead of spending our entire collective existences sitting around moping about all of the horrific things that have ever happened.
If it's true that Facebook allows this but not breastfeeding then yeah, there's a serious problem
Either allow both or allow none (allow both)
[QUOTE=ForgotPassword;32695300]lol Facebook. Full of dumb people as usual.[/QUOTE]
haahehaeha, this!!! I am truly above the generation of facebook users... Luckily for me, I have no friends to keep in contact with LOL. *strokes neckbeard*
I saw a hurtful word on the Internet that has pratcally no meaning so I decided to waste everybody's time by staging how important it is that we are completely heart torn by it.
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Reminded me of a good joke to tell people, you say "I saved a girl from being raped last night" and they congradulate you or whatever and then you say "Yea, I stopped chasing her" :v:
This article has lead to me becoming member 194,371 :v:
[QUOTE=mastermaul;32695304]Are we going to use that layout in every thread now?[/QUOTE]
Apparently. Hooray, I started something.
I've heard worse jokes than this.
By worse I mean more crude and inappropriate.
Oh lordy, that's hilarious.
[editline]9th October 2011[/editline]
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Appropriate (taken from LMAO pics)
Facebook just wants to keep this up so anyone who posts in it gets fired from their job after a background check.
Facebook your so evil.
[QUOTE=thisispain;32695192]we marginalize rape all the time anyway.
how many times have you heard someone say they got raped when they lost in a game?[/QUOTE]
that doesn't make it any more right
[QUOTE=thisispain;32695192]we marginalize rape all the time anyway.
how many times have you heard someone say they got raped when they lost in a game?[/QUOTE]
Does it really count as "marginalizing" when one of the word's meanings (and its first meaning) had nothing to do with sexual assault whatsoever, and just taking shit by force? Because to me that's just using a word correctly.
[QUOTE=Max of S2D;32697594]that doesn't make it any more right[/QUOTE]
never said it did youngblood
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[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;32697667]Does it really count as "marginalizing" when one of the word's meanings (and its first meaning) had nothing to do with sexual assault whatsoever, and just taking shit by force? [/QUOTE]
yeah it does really count
I sort of expected seeing a facebook group called RAPE and underneath "50 people like this" or something like that
I don't know what offends me more, the rape or the incorrect use of the word your.
probably the rape
facebook is such a colossal piece of shit
[editline]10th October 2011[/editline]
[quote]A further statement said: "Groups or pages that express an opinion on a state, institution, or set of beliefs - even if that opinion is outrageous or offensive to some - do not by themselves violate our policies.[/quote]
Oh okay so guys pages like "the only dead jew/nigger/etc. is a dead one" is totally fine, right?
what the fuck facebook
just get out of the planet
I'm not saying it isn't horrible, but rape is one of those things that people freak out most about.
In contrast, if someone makes a joke about murder, no one cares. They need to understand when something is just a joke.
[QUOTE=Man Without Hat;32695171]Bloody feminists.[/QUOTE]
what does this have to do with feminism at all?
[QUOTE=ChestyMcGee;32702822]what does this have to do with feminism at all?[/QUOTE]
imaginary feminists syndrome.
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