Senior North Korean military official defects. Fat man is sad - Polidicks

[Quote]Seoul, South Korea (CNN)A senior intelligence officer with the North Korean military has defected to South Korea, officials in Seoul said Monday. The defector was a senior colonel with the North Korean Reconnaissance General Bureau, which is in charge of espionage operations against South Korea, according to South Korean Defense Ministry spokesman Moon Sang-gyun and Unification Ministry spokesman Jeong Joon-hee. Speaking in separate news conferences Monday, the ministry spokesmen confirmed that reports on the defection by South Korea's semiofficial Yonhap News Agency were accurate but said they could give no further details. Yonhap reported that the senior colonel was the highest-level North Korean military official known to have defected, although CNN was not able to confirm this independently. North Korea's Reconnaissance General Bureau is a powerful body, responsible for clandestine operations, including espionage against foreign countries and cyberwarfare operations. All North Korean defectors are interviewed by South Korean intelligence services for information about life across the border. It is expected the latest defector could prove a rich trove of knowledge about the workings of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's secretive regime.[/quote] [url]http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/asia/north-korea-official-defects/index.html[/url] Fuckin' left Best Korea didn't he lads?

He was tired of living in the best country while the rest of the world suffers in poverty and misery; he just wanted to help the poor, southern countrymen.

[QUOTE=Riller;50113230]He was tired of living in the best country while the rest of the world suffers in poverty and misery; he just wanted to help the poor, southern countrymen.[/QUOTE] Share around the glory of best reader.

God, it's crazy to think its that bad in there that even high ranking members defect. I mean how does one even go about defecting? Does he let someone from SK know? Does he go to the dmz(?) and slip a note to one of the SK guards? I bet the first step is the fucking hardest. Knowing that if you screw up, it's game over man. The anxiety alone seems like it could break you.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;50113965]God, it's crazy to think its that bad in there that even high ranking members defect. I mean how does one even go about defecting? Does he let someone from SK know? Does he go to the dmz(?) and slip a note to one of the SK guards? I bet the first step is the fucking hardest. Knowing that if you screw up, it's game over man. The anxiety alone seems like it could break you.[/QUOTE] And when they find out you left, your entire family is executed or sent to forced labor camps.

[QUOTE=Luni;50114097]And when they find out he left, they execute his entire family.[/QUOTE] His family was probably already dead

Gonna be interesting to hear the tales this guy's gonna tell

North Korean higher-ups don't usually defect and get away with it. South Korea better look after this man with all they've got. The imformation he can provide could potentially be a game-changer.

[QUOTE=UnknownDude;50114291]North Korean higher-ups don't usually defect and get away with it. South Korea better look after this man with all they've got. The imformation he can provide could potentially be a game-changer.[/QUOTE] Higher ups have tried before and failed or have been assassinated after some time?

maybe transfer him to usa?

[QUOTE=Sleeves;50114817]Higher ups have tried before and failed or have been assassinated after some time?[/QUOTE] most likely they are assassinated or kidnapped and taken back to NK for execution.

[QUOTE=Sleeves;50114817]Higher ups have tried before and failed or have been assassinated after some time?[/QUOTE] North Korea is known to abduct people, especially it's own citizens that manage to escape. It's not far fetched that they'd just try and silence this guy because of what he knows though rather than try and smuggle him back into NK. Most nations on the planet would consider doing the same if they could get away with it without it looking suspicious (if one of their own defected, not this guy), North Korea'd likely not give a shit bout public relations and image though, dump 30 rounds of AK fire into the dudes back and call it an elaborate suicide or blame America.

[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;50115325]dump 30 rounds of AK fire into the dudes back and call it an elaborate suicide or blame America.[/QUOTE] It may have been an unfortunate "shaving accident" he had.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;50113965]God, it's crazy to think its that bad in there that even high ranking members defect. I mean how does one even go about defecting? Does he let someone from SK know? Does he go to the dmz(?) and slip a note to one of the SK guards? I bet the first step is the fucking hardest. Knowing that if you screw up, it's game over man. The anxiety alone seems like it could break you.[/QUOTE] I don't know about high level officials, but most people leave through the northern border to China. They find someone who will take them across the yalu river at night. They often go in the winter since it's frozen then and you don't have to take a bridge or risk being swept away. You have to bribe the guards there to look the other way (NK military is unfathomably corrupt and nearly everyone in the country is open to bribery). North Koreans can be quite naive. Sex workers don't exist in their country because breaking the law is a much more severse punishment than in the west. They have no concept of the idea of selling other people for money, or selling sex. When they get to china and are told "we're going to sell you to a chinese farmer as a wife", they don't understand. They didn't think "why did this stranger offer to smuggle me out of North Korea for free?". Thousands of North Korean women are then sold into sex slavery. They are not legally allow to be in China. If they are caught in China, they are sent back to North Korea, where they face imprisonment for themselves and their families, as well as execution. The men are similarly sold into labor slavery. The only hope for North Korean refugees is groups like [url=http://nkinusa.org/]NKinUSA.org[/url] or [url=http://LibertyInNorthKorea.org/]Liberty In North Korea[/url], who contact the refugees in china (or hopefully, earlier on in North Korea), and then lead them through an underground railroad of Chinese Christian ministries which transport them to Thailand so they can get refugee status in South Korea (Thailand will not deport you back to North Korea). Aiding North Korean refugees in China will land you in jail. They used to go through Mongolia. Mongolia will send refugees to South Korea or back to China depending on their relationship with China at the time. Yeonmi Park and Eunsun Kim both went through Mongolia, and were some of the last few to do so. Nowadays, everything goes through Thailand, not Mongolia. If you want to help North Korean refugees, and the thousands of North Koreans living as slaves in china [I]right now[/I], donate to [url=http://nkinusa.org/]NKinUSA.org[/url] or [url=http://LibertyInNorthKorea.org/]Liberty In North Korea[/url]. It costs relatively little to save someone's life.

[QUOTE=proboardslol;50115667]I don't know about high level officials, but most people leave through the northern border to China. They find someone who will take them across the yalu river at night. They often go in the winter since it's frozen then and you don't have to take a bridge or risk being swept away. You have to bribe the guards there to look the other way (NK military is unfathomably corrupt and nearly everyone in the country is open to bribery). North Koreans can be quite naive. Sex workers don't exist in their country because breaking the law is a much more severse punishment than in the west. They have no concept of the idea of selling other people for money, or selling sex. When they get to china and are told "we're going to sell you to a chinese farmer as a wife", they don't understand. They didn't think "why did this stranger offer to smuggle me out of North Korea for free?". Thousands of North Korean women are then sold into sex slavery. They are not legally allow to be in China. If they are caught in China, they are sent back to North Korea, where they face imprisonment for themselves and their families, as well as execution. The men are similarly sold into labor slavery. The only hope for North Korean refugees is groups like [url=http://nkinusa.org/]NKinUSA.org[/url] or [url=http://LibertyInNorthKorea.org/]Liberty In North Korea[/url], who contact the refugees in china (or hopefully, earlier on in North Korea), and then lead them through an underground railroad of Chinese Christian ministries which transport them to Thailand so they can get refugee status in South Korea (Thailand will not deport you back to North Korea). Aiding North Korean refugees in China will land you in jail. They used to go through Mongolia. Mongolia will send refugees to South Korea or back to China depending on their relationship with China at the time. Yeonmi Park and Eunsun Kim both went through Mongolia, and were some of the last few to do so. Nowadays, everything goes through Thailand, not Mongolia. If you want to help North Korean refugees, and the thousands of North Koreans living as slaves in china [I]right now[/I], donate to [url=http://nkinusa.org/]NKinUSA.org[/url] or [url=http://LibertyInNorthKorea.org/]Liberty In North Korea[/url]. It costs relatively little to save someone's life.[/QUOTE] Goddamn. Always seeing people make jokes on fp, but it's really heartbreaking.

[QUOTE=Daddy-of-war;50115903]Goddamn. Always seeing people make jokes on fp, but it's really heartbreaking.[/QUOTE] Jokes are a problem with the North Korean narrative. I think humor has its place in criticism, but I think it has to be well intended. Before and during WW2, Hitler became the butt of many a joke because of his tyrannical rule and persecution of Jews. This, I think, was a constructive way to build support for going to war against Germany once Japan attacked us. The humor we use to poke fun at North Korea, is, however not like that. People know the crimes Hitler committed, and making fun of him strips his ideology of the power it has over political rhetoric and serious discussion. Today, neonazis are a joke, not something we discuss in modern politics. However, few people are truly aware of the extent of the crimes of the Kim dynasty. Even those interested in North Korean documentaries are only seeing Pyongyang, the best fed city in North Korea. Outside of the capital, it is far less bizarre than the cult of personality in Pyongyang would lead you to believe. The fact of the matter is that millions of people in North Korea are starving to death simply because of their leaders' stubbornness and greed. People aren't bringing awareness to that, they're not laughing at Kim the same way we laugh at Hitler. I highly recommend anyone seriously interested in North Korea outside of Pyongyang read "Nothing to Envy", by Barbara Demick, "In Order to Live" by Yeonmi Park, and "1000 miles to freedom" by Eunsun Kim