These are probably the 2 most commonly used drugs worldwide and I've always wondered about which of these two drugs is the worst for you and after some research and real life experiences with both drugs, I've come to the conclusion that marijuana is the safer drug.
How people view drugs really is a big effect on what they really are, most countries marijuana is illegal so people see that its illegal and assume it is "bad", yet alcohol is legal (at certain ages) in countries and some people assume it would be healthier than marijuana. Alcohol even though its legal is one of the biggest causes of death by overdoses, accidents and alcohol related diseases. Alcohol can be addictive and alcoholics can destroy friends and loved ones around you. Different people respond differently to the drug, some get happy, others get violent and aggressive and can cause harm to people (I've seen all of this happen before)
I'm not saying weed isn't bad for you at all, all drugs are harmful, that's my 2 cents now I'm just curious to see your thoughts.
I like weed better overall, but alcohol is better for parties. I think weed isn't as harmful as alcohol but it still is.
does this really need to be asked
[QUOTE=ThisIsTheOne;32384440]I like weed better overall, but alcohol is better for parties. I think weed isn't as harmful as alcohol but it still is.[/QUOTE]
cannabis in and of itself isn't harmful
[QUOTE=stupid10er;32384449]does this really need to be asked[/QUOTE]
I don't know, does it? I just tried to spark something in this new forum, if its really that bad, I guess i could just scrap it
Marijuana is healthier to the body, it does have negative effects and don't you ever let anyone get away with saying otherwise, however, marijuana doesn't kill people, alcohol does, being a marijuana addict won't kill you, being an alcoholic will.
I still drink alcohol, sparingly.
Marijuana is pretty harmless in comparison to alcohol. Both provide marginal health benefits however in some way, for example a glass or two of red wine a week.
Alcohol is more harmful, only a fool would say otherwise. Not saying marijuana is completely harmless though.
Not sure how reliable these statistics are.
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According to my psychology textbook, marijuana is far safer.
[QUOTE]Gable reports that GHB and heroin "have a lethal dose less than 10 times their typical effective dose" while cocaine, MDMA (ecstasy), and alcohol "all have a lethal dose 10 to 20 times the effective dose." He continues:
A less toxic group of substances, requiring 20 to 80 times the effective dose to cause death, include Rohypnol (flunitrazepam or "roofies") and mescaline (peyote cactus). [B]The least physiologically toxic substances, those requiring 100 to 1,000 times the effective dose to cause death, include psilocybin mushrooms and marijuana, when ingested. I've found no published cases in the English language that document deaths from smoked marijuana, so the actual lethal dose is a mystery. My surmise is that smoking marijuana is more risky than eating it but still safer than getting drunk.[/B]
Alcohol thus ranks at the dangerous end of the toxicity spectrum. So despite the fact that about 75 percent of all adults in the United States enjoy an occasional drink, it must be remembered that alcohol is quite toxic. Indeed, if alcohol were a newly formulated beverage, its high toxicity and addiction potential would surely prevent it from being marketed as a food or drug. (Gable, 2006)
Gable notes that another, completely different operational definition of dangerousness in a recreational drug is capture ratio: the number of people who try the drug divided by the number who become regular or habitual users. He notes that "heroin and methamphetamine are most dangerous by this measure," followed by cocaine, alcohol, and nicotine, followed by caffeine and marijuana. Hallucinogens are least dangerous by this measure, because people do not often become dependent upon them. Of course, capture ratio disregards every other consequence of taking a drug except for the creation of dependence, so its usefulness is limited, but it provides a second way to measure danger, in addition to the dose/toxicity ratio.[/QUOTE]
Edit: Oh dear that took me a long time to post, I'm so late.
I'm surprised so many people agree with me, a lot of people I know claim marijuana is bad for you just because it is "illegal" and that they will just drink alcohol because its safer
My father is an alcoholic (but he's in recovery).
Drinking alcohol has caused innumerable problems in his life, like trouble at work, trouble at home, even getting reaaaally drunk when on a camping trip with me when I was much younger.
In contrast to this, marijuana, which he did smoke a lot when he was younger, has had no lasting effects on him. He doesn't smoke it anymore, nor did it harm him in any way when he did smoke it.
[QUOTE=Jelly donut;32384536]Not sure how reliable these statistics are.
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Alcohol worse than Heroin. Looks legit.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32384568]Alcohol worse than Heroin. Looks legit.[/QUOTE]
Most likely due to alcohol being used very commonly compared to other drugs.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32384568]Alcohol worse than Heroin. Looks legit.[/QUOTE]
Just because Heroin is illegal and alcohol isn't, it doesn't mean Heroin is more harmful.
[QUOTE=rinoaff33;32384586]Most likely due to alcohol being used very commonly compared to other drugs.[/QUOTE]
And yeah, this too.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;32384568]Alcohol worse than Heroin. Looks legit.[/QUOTE]
IF you look at it properly you will se that alcohol is more harmful because it causes more harm to other people than heroin does, however heroin is still more harmful to the user
I'd have to say alcohol.
On the topic of psilocybin, while you can't easily OD on it, it can permanently alter how you think.
[QUOTE=ZenX2;32384774]On the topic of psilocybin, while you can't easily OD on it, it can permanently alter how you think.[/QUOTE]
Not neccesarily a bad thing
Both are just as bad as the other. Specially if you use it all the damn time, smoking anything isn't good for you and excess drinking can cause many problems.
Alcohol has its benefits if used properly, like different types of wine with dinner. Weed can help people medically, I don't know any other benefits beside that.
Anyone who says one is better then the other is pretty stupid imo, both can cause problems and both can be abused and lead to other things.
They aren't stupid, of course both can cause problems but alcohol can cause worse problems.
[QUOTE=Jelly donut;32384536]Not sure how reliable these statistics are.
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It's ridiculously easy to OD on heroin, it's worse than alcohol.
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Anyone who says one is better then the other is pretty stupid imo, both can cause problems and both can be abused and lead to other things.[/QUOTE]
No, I believe alcohol is worse than pot.
Saying they're both equally dangerous is like saying explosives are the same as handguns, because they both can kill people.
One is much, much more volatile when abused, I've never seen someone get beaten unconscious in front of a whole party because a few people smoked to much weed. With alcohol, I've seen it multiple times.
Abusing anything is stupid, but there are much worse 'crutches' than pot, alcohol being one of them.
[QUOTE=MR-X;32384899]Both are just as bad as the other. Specially if you use it all the damn time, smoking anything isn't good for you and excess drinking can cause many problems.
Alcohol has its benefits if used properly, like different types of wine with dinner. Weed can help people medically, I don't know any other benefits beside that.
Anyone who says one is better then the other is pretty stupid imo, both can cause problems and both can be abused and lead to other things.[/QUOTE]
But smoking weed isn't the only way to get high, you could also do it smokeless ways like vaporizing.
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;32384967]It's ridiculously easy to OD on heroin, it's worse than alcohol.[/QUOTE]
Read the graph properly people, It does say its worse for harm to users than alcohol but it does less harm to other people. Jesus read something properly before critisizing it.
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Tobacco causes 435,000 annual deaths in the US. Cannabis causes zero.
I could understand heroin or cocaine being illegal, and if anything, tobacco should be banned and weed legalized.
I've seen people do really stupid shit while both high and drunk but if you're just talking health problems, alcohol is probably worse, what with how it fucks up your liver and whatnot.
I don't know I love smoking weed until I'm deaf and catatonic but I also love drinking until I black out.. Though choice.
[QUOTE=Stormcharger;32384791]Not neccesarily a bad thing[/QUOTE]
I quite agree with you about this.
I first heard about it from an article in either Scientific American or Discover (I can't remember which it was) about a study where a group of people with really bad depression or something took it to see if the whole "permanent brain alteration to make you think the whole world is working together and everything's chill" would make them happy again.
[QUOTE=HawkeyeTy;32384983]No, I believe alcohol is worse than pot.
Saying they're both equally dangerous is like saying explosives are the same as handguns, because they both can kill people.
One is much, much more volatile when abused, I've never seen someone get beaten unconscious in front of a whole party because a few people smoked to much weed. With alcohol, I've seen it multiple times.
Abusing anything is stupid, but there are much worse 'crutches' than pot, alcohol being one of them.[/QUOTE]
I've dealt with people who came to jail for stabbing someone while high on weed (seen it only once, while working there but still). I've also dealt with people who came to jail because they got drunk and assaulted someone. Just because one isn't as common does not mean it does not happen.
Alcohol is more common and readily available, so of course we're going to have more incidents. Though at the same time we can blame the person for it, A lot of people get drunk and don't react violently and a lot of people smoke and don't react violently.
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