wait you're saying a drug has unintended side effects that can permanently damage you?
like cigarettes? and alchohol?
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obviously any drug you take will cause damages, i don't think anyone here thought marijuana was this special drug that had no qualms
[QUOTE=endorphinsam;45428244]wait you're saying a drug has unintended side effects that can permanently damage you?
like cigarettes? and alchohol?[/QUOTE]
Still less unhealthy in the long run than both cigarettes and alcohol.
Also his argument in the video that the effects are what are addictive can be applied to anything that causes stimuli - like playing video games.
[editline]18th July 2014[/editline]
Also lol nobody says people smoking weed are harmless driving cars. Where did he even hear that?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;45428278]No, it's just as unhealthy as cigarettes, smoking kills your lungs, especially if you smoke for a ridiculous amount of time like some potheads out there.[/QUOTE]
Breathing anything other than oxygen kills your lungs.
I never said it was "healthy", I said it's less unhealthy in the long run.
Will you people watch the video before commenting?
[QUOTE=Atlascore;45428285]Potheads say this shit all the time, it's on the long list of actually-not-true positives of marijuana you'll find on tumblr or reddit.[/QUOTE]
Then the question is [I]who the hell actually takes tumblr or reddit as a credible source for anything[/I]?
The people I know who smoke weed are fully aware that they shouldn't be driving any kind of vehicle when high.
As for addictiveness, should add that the ones I know are able to go any length without the drug as they want without withdrawal symptoms, and a few ever quit voluntarily without problems.
[QUOTE=Shinbad;45428295]Will you people watch the video before commenting?[/QUOTE]
I did. It brings nothing new or interesting to the table that wasn't already known, a lot of it is pretty sensationalist and takes the "myths" out of context.
Anyone who isn't 12 knows that weed is very unhealthy. But you'll also know it's not AS unhealthy as regular cigarettes, and it's not as unhealthy as alcohol. Saying it's "healthier" is in a sense hyperbole.
It seems a fair bit of the issues regarding pot usage stem from it's use in smoking as opposed to use with filter or as an edible, but I was unaware of the (small, but) significant negative health effects of THC. If cannabis ever becomes legal in Texas, I'll make sure to think twice and do my research before any sort of consumption. Cool video, very informative and professional. Thanks for sharing!
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;45428313]Then the question is [I]who the hell actually takes tumblr or reddit as a credible source for anything[/I]?
The people I know who smoke weed are fully aware that they shouldn't be driving any kind of vehicle when high.
As for addictiveness, should add that the ones I know are able to go any length without the drug as they want without withdrawal symptoms, and a few ever quit voluntarily without problems.
I did. It brings nothing new or interesting to the table that wasn't already known, a lot of it is pretty sensationalist and takes the "myths" out of context.
Anyone who isn't 12 knows that weed is very unhealthy. But you'll also know it's not AS unhealthy as regular cigarettes, and it's not as unhealthy as alcohol. Saying it's "healthier" is in a sense hyperbole.[/QUOTE]
Look at the drug discussion subforum
Anyone over the age of 12 knows that pretty much everything is unhealthy if not used in moderation.
[QUOTE=bepassley;45428325]Anyone over the age of 12 knows that pretty much everything is unhealthy if not used in moderation.[/QUOTE]
Being alive is a hazard to your health.
[QUOTE=bepassley;45428325]Anyone over the age of 12 knows that pretty much everything is unhealthy if not used in moderation.[/QUOTE]
This is unhealthy even if used in "Moderation"
In regards to Coyoteze I've heard all of these myths in common use fairly frequently so none of them are a far cry from what anywhere from a non pot user to a heavy consumer might claim, although it is important to keep in mind that people who partake in it's consumption don't have a hive mind so it would be wrong to place any blanket statements regarding their opinions on the substance.
all this research and still no bodies
a lot of what i have just listened to is just saying that there are negative effects from extremely heavy abuse, sure it's possible to overdose, but it's never happened before, you'd pass out before you could even get close, plus i could take a hammer and smash myself across the head with it but i'm not stupid enough to do it, the only reason marijuana is illegal is because it would cost prescription drug industries millions of dollars because of how many things it could be prescribed for
alcohol and tobacco are a thousand times worse than marijuana and they are both completely legal, i'm not against that, but it really is fucking stupid, whenever i hear someone say they don't do drugs meanwhile they drink and smoke, i want to fucking choke slam them, anyone who genuinely believes that pot is worse for you than alcohol and tobacco and even some drugs that are fucking prescribed to people like those stupid fucking anti-depressants that people take when they just went through a break-up or something are completely blind to the fact that they're being spoon-fed bullshit by industries and government
Just because something isn't lethal doesn't mean it isn't harmful. I can't willingly, at least for as long as I'm a student, ingest something that has proven negative effects on your education. That's also discounting the rest of the cited negatives he presented. I can agree with you on it being preferable to other legal drugs, and to be completely honest I couldn't care about whether or not people use weed (the drug war is total bullshit), provided that they're educated and informed about the decisions their making. As the video maker said, we need to be educating the youth, not scaring them.
The best time to experiment with drugs is when you're a student though. Trust me. I'm (not) a doctor.
[QUOTE=Coyoteze;45428283]Breathing anything other than oxygen kills your lungs.
I never said it was "healthy", I said it's less unhealthy in the long run.[/QUOTE]
Even breathing oxygen kills you in the long run :eng101:
i excelled in shit like video and other artistic projects in college because of marijuana, the mental effects / negative effects to your education are complete bullshit (in my personal experience with drugs)
if pot makes you a lazy loser it's because you were a lazy loser in the first place, not because you smoke pot
shinbad people might take you more seriously if you had a real avatar.
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;45428543]shinbad people might take you more seriously if you had a real avatar.[/QUOTE]
To be honest I'm not sure why someone avatar should affect how seriously people take them, that's a pretty silly standard
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;45428570]To be honest I'm not sure why someone avatar should affect how seriously people take them, that's a pretty silly standard[/QUOTE]
it makes you look like a dumb new user instead if somebody actually trying, at least to me.
Been smoking weed more or less every day for over a year. Am I fucked?
[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;45428660]it makes you look like a dumb new user instead if somebody actually trying, at least to me.[/QUOTE]
well i think your avatar is obnoxious :PP
[QUOTE=endorphinsam;45428244]
obviously any drug you take will cause damages, i don't think anyone here thought marijuana was this special drug that had no qualms[/QUOTE]
I'm not so sure about that
[QUOTE=TheThing;45428506]Even breathing oxygen kills you in the long run :eng101:[/QUOTE]
pure oxygen does
We breathe in mostly nitrogen
[QUOTE=Shark Cat;45428512]if pot makes you a lazy loser it's because you were a lazy loser in the first place, not because you smoke pot[/QUOTE]
before i started pot, i was a lazy loser who sat around the house all day doing nothing. now, iam a lazy loser who sits around the house all day with weed while keeping the house maintained
Okay I'm two minutes in and he already compared marijuana withdrawal to alcohol withdrawal, which can kill you outright. This ought to be good.
[QUOTE=Atlascore;45428285]Potheads say this shit all the time, it's on the long list of actually-not-true positives of marijuana you'll find on tumblr or reddit.[/QUOTE]
Just because a majority of people happen to come together on reddit or tumblr to display a silly belief like that doesn't mean everyone is that ignorant
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[QUOTE=Buck.;45428700]Been smoking weed more or less every day for over a year. Am I fucked?[/QUOTE]
No; but you will appreciate cannabis less and you won't get as high as if you took a t-break every once and a while. Also you might get bored easily in the absence of cannabis and have a slight mental dependence on it similar to that of 'cake'; but generally after 2 weeks of not smoking all of the bad effects go away (if you even have any bad effects, which most people don't have any)
All I'd say is try a t-break sometime
[editline]18th July 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Shinbad;45428323]Look at the drug discussion subforum[/QUOTE]
this says literally nothing about your opinion; there are many people in the DD forum who actually have common sense and realistic views on drugs, you know?
1. To say that marijuana is addictive like alcohol is straight up dishonest. If a person uses alcohol for long enough, not drinking causes seizures and sometimes death. Anything can be addictive in the way this man describes. You can have withdrawals from fancy food if you eat well every day and then have nothing but cat food.
2. Bullshit? [url]http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/20060523/pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer[/url]
3. Although there aren't many people making the claim that driving while high is entirely safe, comparing it to drunken driving is, again, a stretch. The type of impairment described in the document he showed also shows up for someone who has just been broken up with, in love, grieving, etc. In other words, driving while high is the equivalent of driving while emotional. Not to mention- 24 hours after smoking? This has to be a joke.
4. More misinformation. First off, his LD50 measurement of nicotine is for rats, not humans. According to widely accepted figures, and I'm quoting Wiki here, "30–60 mg (0.5–1.0 mg/kg) can be a lethal dosage for adult humans." Although this has been challenged and suggest to be at least ten times too low, he's still going off misrepresented information. Think about what he's suggesting if those numbers were true: that weed is more lethal than nicotine. No. "Especially if a vaporizer is used, oh my gad." I can't with this guy. Acute THC narcosis? A fucking lie. When someone goes to the hospital and they're crying because they're too high, the hospital must write everything out on the patients chart. "THC toxicity" happens to be an apt descriptor for what's happening, but this man is once again blowing shit out of proportion.
5. Wow! Having a history of mental illness in your family exacerbates the chances of you having a mental illness? Thanks for the info, guy. :downs: What he's leaving out here is the question of whether marijuana smoking leads to mental illness, or if people with mental illness are predisposed to marijuana usage. He even says that the research is ongoing.
6. Stop. There are few people that believe weed honestly comes with zero side effects, but the way this guy speaks about marijuana usage and its effects make it clear he has a biased viewpoint and really has no clue about marijuana.
[QUOTE=endorphinsam;45428244]
like cigarettes? and alchohol?
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[QUOTE=Shark Cat;45428341]
alcohol and tobacco are a thousand times worse than marijuana and they are both completely legal[/QUOTE]
I don't know why people use this as an argument for making weed legal
if they're a thousand times worse than weed, shouldn't we be banning alcohol and tobacco instead?
of course, because prohibition has proven that taking something thats already legal and widely used and making it illegal is more trouble than it's worth, it's much safer to just leave weed as illegal, rather than making it legal, realising the shit is dangerous and then not being able to take it away because of the "right to get fucked up" or something. That way we only have two harmful but legal substances rather than three
[QUOTE=Kite_shugo;45428807]Just because a majority of people happen to come together on reddit or tumblr to display a silly belief like that doesn't mean everyone is that ignorant
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No; but you will appreciate cannabis less and you won't get as high as if you took a t-break every once and a while. Also you might get bored easily in the absence of cannabis and have a slight mental dependence on it similar to that of 'cake'; but generally after 2 weeks of not smoking all of the bad effects go away (if you even have any bad effects, which most people don't have any)
All I'd say is try a t-break sometime
[editline]18th July 2014[/editline]
this says literally nothing about your opinion; there are many people in the DD forum who actually have common sense and realistic views on drugs, you know?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I noticed my short term memory is suffering, I find it hard to fall asleep sober, the effect is getting weaker and I started getting anxiety attacks (Just a feeling in the stomach and almost a need to shiver as if I was cold). I think a break is a good idea.
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