N. Korea demands S. Korea stop Military Drills, S. Korea promptly tells them to Disarm Nukes and Fuc
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[quote]South Korea rejected North Korea's offer to take a series of steps to ease tension that included cancelling Seoul's regular military drills with Washington, saying Friday that Pyongyang must take nuclear disarmament steps first.
The North's powerful National Defence Commission yesterday proposed the rivals halt military actions and mutual vilification to build better relations. The North, however, strongly hinted it would maintain its nuclear weapons program and urged South Korea to cancel its upcoming springtime drills with the United States.
The North's overture is a sharp departure from its repeated threats of nuclear strikes against Seoul and Washington that raised tensions a year ago. Analysts say Kim Jong Un's government hopes that improved ties with South Korea could help attract foreign investment to boost the communist nation's lagging economy.
On Friday, South Korea said it would press ahead with the drills which it says are defensive in nature and demanded that North Korea take “practical” actions for nuclear disarmament if it truly wants peace on the peninsula.
“North Korea should keep in mind that trust between South and North Korea is something that can be demonstrated with action, not by words,” Unification Ministry spokesman Kim Eui-do told reporters.
The North's statement, which came after leader Kim called for improved ties in his New Year's Day message, proposed the Koreas stop slandering each other on 30 January, a day before Lunar New Year's Day which is celebrated by both sides. The North also said it will first take steps to halt acts of provoking South Korea near the disputed western sea boundary, the scene of several bloody skirmishes between the Koreas in recent years, and in other areas.[/quote]
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/south-korea-snub-norths-offer-to-cancel-military-drills-9066105.html]Independent[/url]
And of course Spotify changes shuffles to Motley Crue - Merry-Go-Round, when I am posting shit about North Korea and South Korea lol.
Shots fired.
I have a pen pal in south korea, he says his government is handling this whole 'situation' well.
basically the north is finding out that south Korea doesn't give two shits about their nuke because frankly they can never use it and bullying with it isn't going to work anymore
...Is it that time of the year again?
I dont honestly blame the south either, north Korea is run by a drunk crazy psycho and his puppet generals. they say peace then proceed to accidentally fire a few hundred artillery shells at innocent civilians....
To be honest we don't even know if NK has nukes. While there have been some pretty big explosions coming from NK we've never detected any radiation, which you would expect to if they detonated nukes (although they could possibly have done it underground, but still fishy).
I bet they just blew up a lot of conventional explosives to give the impression they have nukes.
[QUOTE=cr2142;43569830]...Is it that time of the week again?[/QUOTE]
FTFY
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;43569854]To be honest we don't even know if NK has nukes. While there have been some pretty big explosions coming from NK we've never detected any radiation, which you would expect to if they detonated nukes (although they could possibly have done it underground, but still fishy).
I bet they just blew up a lot of conventional explosives to give the impression they have nukes.[/QUOTE]
They probably just did them underground
[QUOTE=cr2142;43569830]...Is it that time of the year again?[/QUOTE]
North Korea is that thing you give attention too when you're all out of real news. it's exciting, but nothing is going to happen.
[QUOTE=Sableye;43569832]I dont honestly blame the south either, [B]North Korea is run by crazy generals and their drunk crazy psycho[/B]. they say peace then proceed to accidentally fire a few hundred artillery shells at innocent civilians....[/QUOTE]
fix'd for you
its pretty obvious he is the puppet.
I think I found a way to win against North Korea, send shipments of Appalachia Mountaindew straight to Un as a present from the United States. With any luck, he'll need a new liver within a week, and he'll be forced to travel to another country, and we can force him to disarm nukes for the liver transplant.
[QUOTE=cr2142;43569830]...Is it that time of the year again?[/QUOTE]
You mean a weekday?
Should just invade them and get it over with. The longer it goes on, the worse the inevitable war is going to be
[QUOTE=TheTalon;43573576]Should just invade them and get it over with. The longer it goes on, the worse the inevitable war is going to be[/QUOTE]
nah - NK doesn't actually have the capability to wage war at this point. The most they could do is take potshots across the border and launch a few rockets at cities. They don't have fuel, food, or ammunition - they do military parades with fake Soviet missile launchers and half of their forces are using weapons from WW2.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;43573576]Should just invade them and get it over with. The longer it goes on, the worse the inevitable war is going to be[/QUOTE]
Killing millions of people is the result of this.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;43572201]fix'd for you
its pretty obvious he is the puppet.[/QUOTE]
More a figure-head than a puppet. Just some crazy idea for the people to latch on to in order to remain compliant with their wishes.
[editline]17th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=TheTalon;43573576]Should just invade them and get it over with. The longer it goes on, the worse the inevitable war is going to be[/QUOTE]
North Korea has to do something first, or else it'll be a massive shit-storm. China has pledged to help NK ONLY IF THEY ARE ATTACKED FIRST. China's already told NK that if ol' Kimmy starts any shit they're not going to back him up. And if there's anything we should've taken from the first Korean war, it's "Damn China, you scary".
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43574098]Killing millions of people is the result of this.[/QUOTE]
It might be millions more if the war breaks out in 20 years rather than the much fewer deaths if it broke out tomorrow is what I'm getting at. The peninsula is like a tumor. If you just go get it taken care of you're going to be better off than trying to get rid of it when it's the size of a basketball
North Korea is going to push to the breaking point anyway, it's not like anyone's going to invade without further provocation first
Well no. Its slowly making capitalist reforms and could possibly start making democratic reforms out of necessity.
I hope that the North Korean people will eventually revolt and overthrow their government somehow, makes sense, you can't continue to execute anyone that opposes you without any consequence. However, they've been brainwashing their people for so long that anything can happen, but I guess the only way they will ever cave is from the inside out, I can't see a full out war happening without intervention from the world.
I doubt the NK government is actually going to follow through with its threats. The moment the NK army crosses the border and gets thoroughly massacred is the moment the NK regime loses all grip over the army.
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43577049]Well no. Its slowly making capitalist reforms and could possibly start making democratic reforms out of necessity.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I mean, they have ski lifts now. That's [i]pretty[/i] capitalist.
I think china should just absorb NK and get rid of the current leadership.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;43578447]I think china should just absorb NK and get rid of the current leadership.[/QUOTE]
Get rid of what leadership? Only recently did China ditch it's own variant of the concentration camps, so as far as I am concerned it'd be the same story, just instead of Korean they'd speak Chinese.
Also: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iczXuaqc4OA[/media]
yesss
[QUOTE=Gustafa;43568041]Shots fired.[/QUOTE]
God i hate this phrase so much. Some autist at my college constantly spurts this phrase along with other memes and whenever I hear it i thunk of his uber punchable face.
Why doesn't the UN do something about North Korea? Is a ground operation too risky?
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;43589924]Why doesn't the UN do something about North Korea? Is a ground operation too risky?[/QUOTE]
It's not that it's to "risky" per-se everyone knows that we would be the victor in the end. Its just that if we start a war with North Korea we would have to deal with a huge population of refugees that would flood S. Korea and China, and not to mention the huge amount of loss of life both military and civilian on both sides.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;43589924]Why doesn't the UN do something about North Korea? Is a ground operation too risky?[/QUOTE]
because, apparently, a few billion dollars in aid to the newly freed refugees isn't worth millions of suffering souls being freed.
[QUOTE=frozensoda;43618393]because, apparently, a few billion dollars in aid to the newly freed refugees isn't worth millions of suffering souls being freed.[/QUOTE]
There's a hefty sum of North Korean people that wouldn't view intervention as liberation in the slightest.
[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;43589924]Why doesn't the UN do something about North Korea? Is a ground operation too risky?[/QUOTE]
Not so much risk, but dealing with the aftermath. You are talking refugees, cult of personality insurgency, and lets not even get down to the gritty, lets see what happens when you drop the first UN troops into a North Korean Concentration Camp, and see how they feel about any captured prisoners. Retribution killings would be on genocide levels considering most of the North Korean population serves as military or reservist military.
Now back to that "cult of personality insurgency", lets say that 75% of North Koreans are just thankful that you helped them, then 15% blitz the border into China, and the last 10% ditch into what they consider holy mountains, and fight an insurgency against enroaching UN troops. Not only would we be taking the piss on Korean culture by attacking mountains that are considered sacred by both North and South Koreans, but we'd also be literally doing search and destroy, non-stop, in the hopes simply rooting a well trained enemy from a fortified mountain.
The only battle that really comes to mind with the bullshit we'd be dealing with is the Battle of Saipan or Battle of Okinawa. It would be a horrible campaign, that would be very unpopular around the world. By the end of the campaign we'd have thousands, if not tens of thousands of soldiers with PTSI, thousands of casualties, and the horror would leave a lot of countries populations not wanting to fight wars or even think about military work for a very long time.
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