• Abandoned dog ecstatic to be reunited with owners at shelter - only for the family to choose another
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[URL="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/abandoned-dog-wags-tail-reuniting-owners-family-choose-different-pet-california-pound-shelter-a7448186.html"]Source.[/URL] [QUOTE]A dog found as a stray and taken to a pound began excitedly wagging its tail when its owners turned up, only for the family to say they wanted a different one. Shelter staff at Downer Animal Care Center in California picked up Zuzu from a local garden after it was reported as a stray. But Desi Lara, an employee at the centre, was shocked when the German Shepherd mix ran up to the family who had arrived looking for a new pet. Writing on her Facebook page, Ms Lara described Zuzu as the “happiest dog” at seeing the group of three. “With her fast wagging tail seeing her owners, Zuzu lit up like a Christmas Tree,” she wrote. “But no. Talking to her owners they told me they were not here to reclaim her, they were getting another dog." [/QUOTE] I honestly hope the shelter refused to let them adopt another dog if this is how they treated one that had already bonded with them.
Scummy.
caveat insertion GO [QUOTE]According to Ms Lara, the owners decided to let Zuzu go as the “heartbroken” dog would not stop crying at the death of her father.[/QUOTE] So basically the dog became unmanageable due to grief, and became incompatible with the family.
such a cunty thing to do
That's some next level heartlessness.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51455341]caveat insertion GO So basically the dog became unmanageable due to grief, and became incompatible with the family.[/QUOTE] It's still scummy regardless. Abandoning a dog for reasons other than you being literally unable to provide for the dog (monetary, health, or location) is scummy. A dog is a living being that bonds and loves you, they aren't just toys that you throw out if they annoy you. The grief is a behavioural issue and can be worked on, and it seems like the family couldn't be fucked dealing with it.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51455341]caveat insertion GO So basically the dog became unmanageable due to grief, and became incompatible with the family.[/QUOTE] That sounds like a load of bullshit to me.
[quote]Shelter staff at Downer Animal Care Center in California picked up Zuzu from a local garden after it was reported as a stray.[/quote] They didn't even surrender her to the shelter, either they just left her somewhere by herself or lost her and decided they didn't want her anymore. Fuck them.
Really speaks volumes when the dog has more fucking humanity than the people.
How easy it is to morally judge people while we dont know anything about them, for all we know the dog ran away and they decided they gave it their best and hope the dog finds happiness somewhere else. My dog had recurring incontinence due to bowel irritation and depression, i took care of it cleaning it since it would soil itself about once every 2 weeks as it pooped in its diaper and then shredded the diaper, it would refuse to go on walks most of the time, refuse to get out of its basket for most things other then food and would need expensive medication. If that dog would have ran away i wouldn’t have looked for it either, even if i loved it and took care of it for the last 2 years of its life. In hindsight i should probably at least considered putting it down since it was obviously not a happy dog and nothing i did helped it out.
[QUOTE=Araknid;51455369]It's still scummy regardless. Abandoning a dog for reasons other than you being literally unable to provide for the dog (monetary, health, or location) is scummy. A dog is a living being that bonds and loves you, they aren't just toys that you throw out if they annoy you. The grief is a behavioural issue and can be worked on, and it seems like the family couldn't be fucked dealing with it.[/QUOTE] Abandoning an animal at all is fucking shitty. Put them up for adoption or take them to a shelter.
Found this [t]http://i.imgur.com/C7DgEH6.jpg[/t] They didn't pick up another dog but I still haven't found whether or not they were allowed to. [editline]1st December 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Paramud;51455415]Abandoning an animal at all is fucking shitty. Put them up for adoption or take them to a shelter.[/QUOTE] That's what I meant, apologies. [QUOTE=Blizzerd;51455413]How easy it is to morally judge people while we dont know anything about them, for all we know the dog ran away and they decided they gave it their best and hope the dog finds happiness somewhere else. My dog had recurring incontinence due to bowel irritation and depression, i took care of it cleaning it since it would soil itself about once every 2 weeks as it pooped in its diaper and then shredded the diaper, it would refuse to go on walks most of the time, refuse to get out of its basket for most things other then food and would need expensive medication. If that dog would have ran away i wouldn’t have looked for it either, even if i loved it and took care of it for the last 2 years of its life. In hindsight i should probably at least considered putting it down since it was obviously not a happy dog and nothing i did helped it out.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but if you own a dog you have the responsibility of giving it the best life you can possibly give it. It's no different to having a child. What's the story with your dog, how old was it at that point?
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51455413]How easy it is to morally judge people while we dont know anything about them, for all we know the dog ran away and they decided they gave it their best and hope the dog finds happiness somewhere else.[/QUOTE] Here's something we do know about the family from reading the OP. [quote]“But no. Talking to her owners they told me they were not here to reclaim her, they were getting another dog."[/quote]
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51455341]caveat insertion GO So basically the dog became unmanageable due to grief, and became incompatible with the family.[/QUOTE] Makes it 100% worse because the dog was sharing grief for another member of the family, imagine being thrown out because you were very upset about your aunt dying. Horrible
Stupid question but can dogs feel grief at the death of another dog?
[QUOTE=Arc Nova;51455562]Makes it 100% worse because the dog was sharing grief for another member of the family, imagine being thrown out because you were very upset about your aunt dying. Horrible[/QUOTE] Imagine if Harry Potter was a real orphan without magical powers and instead of being sent to wizard school, his extended family abandoned him at a train station because he wouldn't stop being emo and needy because [I]his parents are now fucking dead[/I], and then they tried to adopt some other kid to be his replacement. That's this family, except with a dog. Humanity doesn't deserve dogs. :suicide:
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51455591]Stupid question but can dogs feel grief at the death of another dog?[/QUOTE] yes, they can mourn for months.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51455591]Stupid question but can dogs feel grief at the death of another dog?[/QUOTE] Um, yes? Why wouldn't they be able to?
Nah this is a totally shit thing to do, there's no excuse. Dogs are living things, they bond to you- that's probably the best part about them. This dog isn't going to forget about her family just like that, she probably doesn't understand why they have left her behind and isn't going to stop waiting for them. "the dog is sad and we don't think that's fun" isn't even a good excuse, especially not when it was overjoyed to see them again.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51455591]Stupid question but can dogs feel grief at the death of another dog?[/QUOTE] Most animals will grieve over the loss of family or friends.
[QUOTE=Svinnik;51455591]Stupid question but can dogs feel grief at the death of another dog?[/QUOTE] Yes. Also, on a related tangent, airport [del]bomb[/del] drug sniffer dogs get really depressed and morose if they don't get a "win" and sniff out some drugs every so often -- they actually believe that since they can't find any drugs (because nobody's trying to smuggle drugs through that airport) they really are [I]not[/I] a Good Boy and they get really despondent from not getting that feeling of reward. [del]Bomb[/del]Drug dog units actually [del]plant drugs on people (and obviously let them go with reasonably little inconvenience)[/del] plant plainclothes officers in the line with traces for the dogs to find just so the dogs can keep their self-esteem up. [QUOTE]Shelter staff at [B]Downer[/B] Animal Care Center[/QUOTE] Holy fuck is that the most appropriate name. I'm so angry at these people. Did their ability to synthesize empathy get replaced with Instagram filter tips or something?
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51455610]Yes. Also, on a related tangent, airport bomb sniffer dogs get really depressed and morose if they don't get a "win" and sniff out some drugs every so often -- they actually believe that since they can't find any drugs (because nobody's trying to smuggle drugs through that airport) they really are [I]not[/I] a Good Boy and they get really despondent from not getting that feeling of reward. [B]Bomb dog units actually plant drugs on people [/B](and obviously let them go with reasonably little inconvenience) just so the dogs can keep their self-esteem up.[/QUOTE] yea no, not buying it unless source... i mean it could be they do it for training people, but i just dont see [I]bomb[/I] dog units planting coke bags on unsuspecting tourists.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51455413]How easy it is to morally judge people while we dont know anything about them, for all we know the dog ran away and they decided they gave it their best and hope the dog finds happiness somewhere else. My dog had recurring incontinence due to bowel irritation and depression, i took care of it cleaning it since it would soil itself about once every 2 weeks as it pooped in its diaper and then shredded the diaper, it would refuse to go on walks most of the time, refuse to get out of its basket for most things other then food and would need expensive medication. If that dog would have ran away i wouldn’t have looked for it either, even if i loved it and took care of it for the last 2 years of its life. In hindsight i should probably at least considered putting it down since it was obviously not a happy dog and nothing i did helped it out.[/QUOTE] It's not judging them by their morals though, it's judging them by their actions. When you own an animal you are legally responsible for its well-being. There are reasons why animal cruelty and abuse laws exist. If you can't handle that responsibility anymore because of whatever reason, the responsible and appropriate thing to do is go through the appropriate channels to rehome the dog, be it in another home, at a rescue, or at a shelter, or - as a last resort when the animal's quality of life has dropped and shows no signs of recovery - put it down. This family abandoned their dog and proved that they couldn't handle the responsibility of an animal when they decided that instead of taking responsibility for a dog they were already supposed to be caring for, they would get a new one instead. Pets aren't commodities, they're living beings. It's not just dogs, either. This would be irresponsible with a cat, a bird, or any other sort of domestic animal.
[QUOTE=Blizzerd;51455611]yea no, not buying it unless source... i mean it could be they do it for training people, but i just dont see [I]bomb[/I] dog units planting coke bags on unsuspecting tourists.[/QUOTE] Er, yeah. I meant drug dog units, not bomb dog units. I don't think bomb dog units would plant fake bombs or drugs on civilians even if it made the dogs feel mopey. :v: It's 6am where I am, that's my excuse. Also, gimme a few to source it. (It's not a primary source btw)
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51455623]Er, yeah. I meant drug dog units, not bomb dog units. I don't think bomb dog units would plant fake bombs on civilians even if it made the dogs feel mopey. :v: It's 6am where I am, that's my excuse.[/QUOTE] That's still kind of a far-fetched claim. I've never heard of people doing that on purpose unless it was a training situation where everything was controlled.
We had to get rid of a Labrador we had because she was practically joined at the hip with the golden retriever she was raised by, who eventually passed away at around 15-16 years of age. Our lab went absolutely nuts with grief, she needed someone with her all the time, if nobody was with her she literally ate holes in the fence and back door, we couldn't contain her anywhere. Both of my parents are teachers and all the kids were in college, so there was just no way to leave her home without worrying about her breaking out and getting into trouble. Maybe this family was scummy, or maybe they just weren't equipped to deal with their dog's grief. I know we weren't. We had to give her away because we just couldn't take care of her anymore, as much as it fucking sucked.
If easy for people to say just deal with it. But when you have an unmanageable dog due to various circumstances it sucks and sometimes the best thing to do is give the dog away. This is coming from a person that has always had a dog...
Source: [URL="http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/07/27/why-dogs-chase-laser-beams-and-why-it-can-drive-them-nuts.html"]Fox News Tech[/URL] [QUOTE]Never getting a reward for their vigilance "makes dogs loopy," [professor of animal behavior] explained. Along the same lines, trainers of bomb- and drug-sniffing dogs have found that their dogs become psychologically disturbed if they never find bombs or drugs, so they must occasionally be taken on dummy missions.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/4o1007/til_bomb_and_drug_sniffing_dogs_will_eventually/d48pwvd/"]There's also this Reddit thread, starting with this post (yes it's an anecdote, but).[/URL] Worth noting that this one states it was likely a plainclothes officer, and not some random unsuspecting civvie, which is a lot more believable. The first place I heard this from was the podcast run by the researchers for QI, [I][URL="http://qi.com/podcast"]No Such Thing As a Fish[/URL][/I], but I don't know which episode in the last nine or so months it's from, and they can get details wrong and sometimes just outright fuck up and don't vet sources properly.
Over the years I've returned a handful of lost and runaway dogs to their owners, and that moment of reunion where the dog is completely overwhelmed with happiness is always such a perfect and precious thing to witness. The idea that after a reunion how someone, [i]anyone[/i] could reject not just any dog, but [i]their[/i] dog is so baffling and utterly heartbreaking to me. Does the family not realize how completely deplorable their actions are? Every dog deserves a home, and I can only hope Zuzu finds a good one.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;51455610][del]Bomb[/del]Drug dog units actually plant drugs on people (and obviously let them go with reasonably little inconvenience) just so the dogs can keep their self-esteem up.[/QUOTE] This sounds like something you'd hear Karl Pilkington saying he read in the news.
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