This is really hard to watch, especially when they've hung it up it and it's still like twitching and moving egh
I like how their description of shanking it in the neck and letting it bleed out is described as the most humane fashion. I suppose it is compared to other slaughtering doctrine, but surely there's a quicker more painless way to deliver death?
Also, I never want to work in a slaughterhouse.
I live in a 5th world country and i do these things all by hand in my back yard.
[QUOTE=scurr;45823565]I like how their description of shanking it in the neck and letting it bleed out is described as the most humane fashion. I suppose it is compared to other slaughtering doctrine, but surely there's a quicker more painless way to deliver death?
Also, I never want to work in a slaughterhouse.[/QUOTE]
The pig isn't conscious when they let it bleed out, they get stunned by an electrical shock before hand with those red prongs.
[editline]28th August 2014[/editline]
I don't really care either way, pigs taste way too good.
I was more intrigued than disgusted, although I guess that means I'm a sick fuck or something.
Most of that twitching you see is just muscle reaction due to blood loss and the stun, the animal is stunned beforehand via electricity, it can't feel a thing as it goes into an unconscious state.
The animal bleeds out to quick to even know what is going on and its unconscious the whole way through as long as they are stunned correctly, this is technically the most humane method of slaughter, unlike some other religious methods but I won't mention those.
I don't really see what is so hard to watch about this, if you eat meat you've either gotta understand where it comes from and the methods used or go the other path and do it yourself and I can say that these methods of slaughter are a bit better than the classic bash on head/break neck/shotgun to skull tricks that used to be used commercially and are only now used on small farms that grow their own livestock for the family.
[QUOTE=onebit;45823624]That pig was obviously alive and aware. Look at the leg.[/QUOTE]
That's the twitching of the muscles from spent energy.
[QUOTE=onebit;45823624]That pig was obviously alive and aware. Look at the leg.[/QUOTE]
There is something called involuntary muscle movements, it happens if you shock any nervous system with a strong amount of electricity. Look at anyone who gets tased, same shit happens as its the same basic principle. People end up kicking their legs around etc before and even after getting the initial shock.
[QUOTE=scurr;45823565]I like how their description of shanking it in the neck and letting it bleed out is described as the most humane fashion. I suppose it is compared to other slaughtering doctrine, but surely there's a quicker more painless way to deliver death?
Also, I never want to work in a slaughterhouse.[/QUOTE]
think about it, the neck is right next to the heart, cut the jugular and the heart empties within a couple of seconds, you'd lose consciousness almost instantly with your throat cut upside down
As hard as it is to watch, and as initially skeptical as I was before I watched the video through to its conclusion, I can't deny that this does seem like a humane method of pig slaughter, as long as the initial stunning process is done correctly. It was worrying to see one of the pigs being stunned producing a smoke from the contact points, but other than that, it all seemed to be quick and hygienic. The bleeding happened in a matter of seconds, so there really was no way for the pig to even be aware of what was happening before any form of consciousness would have vanished and subsequent death would have occurred.
See, I think the biggest problem with stuff like this is that the public has been sheltered from what actually happens behind their steaks and bacon for so long that the slaughter of anything along the way instantly sounds excessive no matter how it's put. 100 years ago this, hiding these practices was probably more appropriate, as the kind of human expansion at the time that required industrial slaughter of animal had sort of surpassed the development of humane killing practices (which weren't a particularly high priority in the first place), so this stuff would have looked a lot worse in terms of animal suffering back then. Considering that, these methods have certainly come a long way and represent an evolution in the industry that is more or less overlooked by outsiders just because it's not been publicized for the longest time. The morality of the entire industry is obviously open to individual interpretation, but it can't be ignored that said industry whose existence was solely due to commercial demand in the first place definitely made the effort to refine its practices even though it technically didn't have to.
I won't eat bacon again.
[QUOTE=KINGSTAR998;45823759]I won't eat bacon again.[/QUOTE]
yeah you will
[QUOTE=KINGSTAR998;45823759]I won't eat bacon again.[/QUOTE]
i've actually quit eating pork and beef and such because in this day and age there is no real need for me to eat it besides for the taste.
[QUOTE=locojaws;45823861]i've actually quit eating pork and beef and such because in this day and age there is no real need for me to eat it besides for the taste.[/QUOTE]
Tasty food to me is almost a hobby, going out to eat to different and cooking is the best shit.
I can't understand that type of mentality, it's such a basic pleasure.
It's a fucking SLAUGHTERHOUSE people!
the clue is in the name!
And yet still there are people who act like they (or legit) had no idea about what goes on inside one and are all shocked and appaled.
I swear to god if one more person tries to have me give up meat because "did you know in slaughterhouses they brutally murder animals?" i will personally eat his dog in front of him shouting "no shit..please..do go on..i had no fucking idea slaughterhouses were designed to kill animals"!
I respect veggie's ..even have a few as good friends ...but if your a fucking dumbass just talk to someone else because once you mention slaughterhouses and expect me to be surprised you lose all respect from me
/rant fucking over
So that was fun ...hows everybody doing today?
[QUOTE=WarRage333;45823566]I live in a 5th world country and i do these things all by hand in my back yard.[/QUOTE]
I can just imagine you brutally slaughtering a pig then going inside, still bloody, to watch anime on a really old CRT translated poorly in to Croatian
[QUOTE=mini me;45823919]It's a fucking SLAUGHTERHOUSE people!
the clue is in the name!
And yet still there are people who act like they (or legit) had no idea about what goes on inside one and are all shocked and appaled.
I swear to god if one more person tries to have me give up meat because "did you know in slaughterhouses they brutally murder animals?" i will personally eat his dog in front of him shouting "no shit..please..do go on..i had no fucking idea slaughterhouses were designed to kill animals"!
I respect veggie's ..even have a few as good friends ...but if your a fucking dumbass just talk to someone else because once you mention slaughterhouses and expect me to be surprised you lose all respect from me
/rant fucking over
So that was fun ...hows everybody doing today?[/QUOTE]
Nobody's complaining about the fact the animals are being killed, just the manner in which they're killed.
Edit:
I wasn't saying killing animals is bad, dumbs make me think I didn't get my point across correctly.
[QUOTE=Vasey105;45823957]Nobody's complaining about the fact the animals are being killed, just the manner in which they're killed.[/QUOTE]
Should have pointed out that was a generic rant ..not actually aimed at anyone in this thread.
I had 4 people trying to forcefully turn me vegetarian in a month so just getting a little annoyed people don't tend to think much any more
apologies if i seemed a little harsh just recently people are making me lose faith in the human race faster than usual
[QUOTE=MrWhite;45823744]As hard as it is to watch, and as initially skeptical as I was before I watched the video through to its conclusion, I can't deny that this does seem like a humane method of pig slaughter, as long as the initial stunning process is done correctly. It was worrying to see one of the pigs being stunned producing a smoke from the contact points, but other than that, it all seemed to be quick and hygienic. The bleeding happened in a matter of seconds, so there really was no way for the pig to even be aware of what was happening before any form of consciousness would have vanished and subsequent death would have occurred.
See, I think the biggest problem with stuff like this is that the public has been sheltered from what actually happens behind their steaks and bacon for so long that the slaughter of anything along the way instantly sounds excessive no matter how it's put. 100 years ago this, hiding these practices was probably more appropriate, as the kind of human expansion at the time that required industrial slaughter of animal had sort of surpassed the development of humane killing practices (which weren't a particularly high priority in the first place), so this stuff would have looked a lot worse in terms of animal suffering back then. Considering that, these methods have certainly come a long way and represent an evolution in the industry that is more or less overlooked by outsiders just because it's not been publicized for the longest time. The morality of the entire industry is obviously open to individual interpretation, but it can't be ignored that said industry whose existence was solely due to commercial demand in the first place definitely made the effort to refine its practices even though it technically didn't have to.[/QUOTE]
The Meatpacking industry has really come a surprisingly long way. For anyone wondering about the more controversial side of it's history, I recommend giving Upton Sinclair's "The Jungle" a read.
However, the point still stands; what we have today, barbaric to some as it may seem, is still perhaps the cleanest and most humane system out of any previously used.
[editline]28th August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=mini me;45823975]Should have pointed out that was a generic rant ..not actually aimed at anyone in this thread.
I had 4 people trying to forcefully turn me vegetarian in a month so just getting a little annoyed people don't tend to think much any more
apologies if i seemed a little harsh just recently people are making me lose faith in the human race faster than usual[/QUOTE]
I think you should take a moment and recognize the fact that perhaps people were reacting to the rather unpleasant sight instead of being in a perpetual state of shock because a livestock animal was slaughtered for food. Hardly what I would call a valid reason for losing faith in the human race.
Hell, I thoroughly understand and accept that an animal has to die to put a steak or bacon on my plate and even I found the video somewhat unsettling.
[QUOTE=Vasey105;45823957]Nobody's complaining about the fact the animals are being killed, just the manner in which they're killed.[/QUOTE]
I don't get it; how do you want it done? We can't pet the animals to death, that'd take far too long and probably be grounds for an abuse charge.
That's the sad reality of it, I guess.
It's called slaughterhouse for a reason, I suppose.
is their next video going to reveal that the sky is in fact blue
Interesting to see how they do things in other slaughter houses, other then where I work.
Though definitely not a workplace for the people who can't watch this video, obviously.
Some old workmates of mine said that when they used to work at the freezing works back in the mean old days, they'd just smack baby calves on the head with a claw hammer day-in and day-out.
I'd say times have changed for the better.
This all looks really clean, humane and as nice as possible to me.
I can happily eat meat knowing these are the modern slaughter houses.
[QUOTE=ZeMole;45824759]Some old workmates of mine said that when they used to work at the freezing works back in the mean old days, they'd just smack baby calves on the head with a claw hammer day-in and day-out.
I'd say times have changed for the better.[/QUOTE]
Just so we're clear, cows have an interesting skull and brain layout that makes this particular method actually really quick and effective. Barbaric, but effective.
What would be done is the cow would be herded into a stall with walls that would hydraulically move in to cradle the cow and provide a pressure that was similar to a big hug, which would calm and/or comfort the animal significantly. Then a steel rod would be positioned and swing down from a gantry and, well... yeah. Not necessarily the worst thing in the world unless you missed the mark and had to bludgeon the poor cow's head in multiple times, but you didn't have to worry about blood or twitching or anything like that.
[editline]28th August 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Pr0fane;45824908]This all looks really clean, humane and as nice as possible to me.
I can happily eat meat knowing these are the modern slaughter houses.[/QUOTE]
This looks about par for the course as far as pork processing goes, but quality control on pork is really high for various health reasons. Poultry (and to a far lesser extent beef) have more... "relaxed" quality control, and there are multiple ways to process a chicken or turkey that not all plants have agreed upon for one reason or another. In general, birds are treated just about the worst of all livestock, really.
pretty cool how clean they remove all the organs without spilling any blood (mind you, it's been drained.)
It's still amazingly clean. I'm impressed.
Ah I noticed Antonio Carluccio is there, a well respected Italian chef (the guy in the red shirt and jeans).
That is an extremely refined and clean system they have going on there. That was interesting even though it was a little bit difficult to watch.
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