• Europeans sign pact to build a key piece of NASA's Orion spaceship
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[B][quote]Europeans sign pact to build a key piece of NASA's Orion spaceship[/quote][/B] [quote][IMG]http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=boyle04A29CC8-ADDE-D144-D81A-A540C89B37CE.jpg&width=600[/IMG]ESA An artist's conception shows ESA's service module directly below NASA's Orion crew capsule. By Alan Boyle NASA and the European Space Agency have signed an agreement calling for the Europeans to provide the service module for the Orion space capsule, the U.S. space agency's crew vehicle for exploration beyond Earth orbit. The hardware would provide the Orion with propulsion, power, thermal control and basic supplies such as water and breathable air. ESA said the design will be based on that of the ATV supply ships that are currently being sent to the International Space Station. "ATV has proven itself on three flawless missions to the space station, and this agreement is further confirmation that Europe is building advanced, dependable spacecraft," Nico Dettmann, head of the ATV's production program, said in an [URL="http://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Human_Spaceflight/Research/ESA_workhorse_to_power_NASA_s_Orion_spacecraft"]ESA statement[/URL]. The Orion's first test flight is scheduled for 2014, using a test service module built by Lockheed Martin. That unmanned launch would send the Orion to an altitude of 3,600 miles (5,800 kilometers). The European-built service module would get its first in-space tryout along with the Orion capsule and heavy-lift Space Launch System rocket in 2017, during an unmanned test flight that would go around the moon and back. [TABLE] [TR] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] "This is not a simple system," Orion program manager Mark Geyer said in a [URL="http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/mpcv/orion_feature_011613.html"]NASA statement[/URL]. "ESA's contribution is going to be critical to the success of Orion's 2017 mission." The first flight with astronauts aboard would follow a round-the-moon route in 2021. NASA's current exploration plan calls for the Orion-SLS system to send humans to a near-Earth asteroid in the mid-2020s, and to Mars and its moons in the 2030s. When the Orion-SLS program was [URL="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44517102/ns/technology_and_science-space/t/nasa-unveils-giant-rocket-design-future-odysseys/"]unveiled in 2011[/URL], the development cost was estimated at $18 billion through 2017, and roughly that much more for the 2017-2022 time frame. Under the NASA-ESA agreement, which was signed in December and announced on Wednesday, ESA will provide the design and the hardware for the Orion service module as part of its contribution to the International Space Station project. [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21044408"]The BBC reported[/URL] that without such a contribution, ESA would owe NASA $600 million for the 2017-2020 period. "Space has long been a frontier for international cooperation as we explore," Dan Dumbacher, NASA's deputy associate administrator for exploration system development, said in the space agency's statement. "This latest chapter builds on NASA's excellent relationship with ESA as a partner in the International Space Station, and helps us move forward in our plans to send humans farther into space than we've ever been before." [/quote] [URL="http://cosmiclog.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/16/16547053-europeans-sign-pact-to-build-a-key-piece-of-nasas-orion-spaceship?lite"]Source[/URL] Thanks Eurobros. I especially thought the last sentence was pretty awesome [quote][B]"This latest chapter builds on NASA's excellent relationship with ESA as a partner in the International Space Station, and helps us move forward in our plans to send humans farther into space than we've ever been before."[/B][/quote]
Can we just build a goddamned Space Arc and get it done with already?? I'm tired of all these small-fry projects, LET'S THINK BIG PEOPLE! I want a space station with 500 people on board at any given time, with massive space elevators and stuff!
needs more carbon nanotubes
Why does everyone slam NASA's budget for being way too small, but few people even realise ESA's budget is one-quarter the size Pour money into that shit please
[QUOTE=smurfy;39245390]Why does everyone slam NASA's budget for being way too small, but few people even realise ESA's budget is one-quarter the size Pour money into that shit please[/QUOTE] When you compare it to how much money we dump into our military it's ridiculous how little NASA gets.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39245323]Can we just build a goddamned Space Arc and get it done with already?? I'm tired of all these small-fry projects, LET'S THINK BIG PEOPLE! I want a space station with 500 people on board at any given time, with massive space elevators and stuff![/QUOTE] And then what?
To Mars!
[QUOTE=smurfy;39245390]Why does everyone slam NASA's budget for being way too small, but few people even realise ESA's budget is one-quarter the size Pour money into that shit please[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://ps3.mmgn.com/Lib/Images/Articles/Normal/5-Reasons-Why-PS-All-Stars-Is-Not-A-Smash-Bros-Clone-1090557.jpg[/IMG] Mods, this isn't an image macro, but an ad by El Paso. Pour money into both!!!
[QUOTE=scout1;39245450]And then what?[/QUOTE] We space now
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39245323]Can we just build a goddamned Space Arc and get it done with already?? I'm tired of all these small-fry projects, LET'S THINK BIG PEOPLE! I want a space station with 500 people on board at any given time, with massive space elevators and stuff![/QUOTE] If we're still blowing each other up we [I]really [/I]shouldn't build an easy to knock down space elevator.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgKovUIQ1Eo[/media] Really damn cool, this is what is taking us to mars.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39245323]Can we just build a goddamned Space Arc and get it done with already?? I'm tired of all these small-fry projects, LET'S THINK BIG PEOPLE! I want a space station with 500 people on board at any given time, with massive space elevators and stuff![/QUOTE] I'm getting kind of sick of how every time an awesome new technological development is posted, especially about space, there's always someone going 'this sucks why can't it be more like sci-fi'. You're not going to wake up one day and find yourself in the future, and grand projects don't spawn out of nowhere. This is a pretty serious undertaking with massive potential, and if that doesn't seem [i]cool enough[/i] to you because you're expecting the Enterprise or something you need a reality check.
This is really lame. Why can't we just skip to the cool part where we build battle ships, fire lasers at space aliens and have different, colorful endings?
Cool, with a little luck I'll help to design this thing. I'm hoping to do my masters dissertation at ESA.
[QUOTE=smurfy;39245390]Why does everyone slam NASA's budget for being way too small, but few people even realise ESA's budget is one-quarter the size Pour money into that shit please[/QUOTE] But the ESA get so much more done for that money. Its like they don't even need more.
[QUOTE=Jsm;39248035]But the ESA get so much more done for that money. Its like they don't even need more.[/QUOTE] not being sarcastic, what has the ESA done?
Then the EU goes tits up and we cna't make it to space because we relied on a now closed factory to manufacture a key piece of the Orion spacecraft.
Watch it be the piece that fails.
[QUOTE=MIPS;39248461]Then the EU goes tits up and we cna't make it to space because we relied on a now closed factory to manufacture a key piece of the Orion spacecraft.[/QUOTE] ESA is not part of the EU
[QUOTE=catbarf;39246867]I'm getting kind of sick of how every time an awesome new technological development is posted, especially about space, there's always someone going 'this sucks why can't it be more like sci-fi'. You're not going to wake up one day and find yourself in the future, and grand projects don't spawn out of nowhere. This is a pretty serious undertaking with massive potential, and if that doesn't seem [i]cool enough[/i] to you because you're expecting the Enterprise or something you need a reality check.[/QUOTE] It's called a joke, I guess that didn't really come across, sorry mate.
[QUOTE=catbarf;39246867]I'm getting kind of sick of how every time an awesome new technological development is posted, especially about space, there's always someone going 'this sucks why can't it be more like sci-fi'. You're not going to wake up one day and find yourself in the future, and grand projects don't spawn out of nowhere. This is a pretty serious undertaking with massive potential, and if that doesn't seem [i]cool enough[/i] to you because you're expecting the Enterprise or something you need a reality check.[/QUOTE] fuck him we are going to the moon again thats cool enough
[QUOTE=smurfy;39245390]Why does everyone slam NASA's budget for being way too small, but few people even realise ESA's budget is one-quarter the size Pour money into that shit please[/QUOTE]Because the ESA has had a much higher rate of failure. NASA best space agency.
These articles upon Orion always let me down. I keep seeing titles and thinking Project Orion's nuclear pulse-propulsion vehicles.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;39248074]not being sarcastic, what has the ESA done?[/QUOTE] It does a lot of the ferrying of cargo to the ISS and god knows how many satellite launches. They also build probes and stuff. [editline]17th January 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=MIPS;39248461]Then the EU goes tits up and we cna't make it to space because we relied on a now closed factory to manufacture a key piece of the Orion spacecraft.[/QUOTE] Good news! At the moment ESA has nothing to do with the EU, however the EU wants this to change in 2014.
[Quote]Turn 2013: Europe has completed SS THRUSTERS[/QUOTE]
Why the hell can't we just build it here? Surely it can't be cheaper to have the ESA build it and ship it to Canaveral.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;39251101]Why the hell can't we just build it here? Surely it can't be cheaper to have the ESA build it and ship it to Canaveral.[/QUOTE] I don't know the actual reason, but I'm sure NASA administrators do. If anything it lets NASA work on something else at the same time, so that stuff gets done faster.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;39245323]Can we just build a goddamned Space Arc and get it done with already?? I'm tired of all these small-fry projects, LET'S THINK BIG PEOPLE! I want a space station with 500 people on board at any given time, with massive space elevators and stuff![/QUOTE] if it where that easy we would have done it by now
Orion? [IMG]http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_T89yqx276uc/TPHriEBMy0I/AAAAAAAAAYQ/zyZATApeKSo/s1600/shadow+watch.gif[/IMG] This can't end well.
[QUOTE=scout1;39245450]And then what?[/QUOTE] Asteroid mining then permanent off world settlements.
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