[quote]One in five women reported a common mental disorder such as anxiety and depression in 2014, compared with one in eight men, according to the study of mental health and wellbeing.
Young women also have high rates of self-harm, and post-traumatic stress and bipolar disorders.
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In 2014, women aged 16-24 were three times as likely to report symptoms of anxiety and depression as than men - 26% compared to 9%.
Post-traumatic stress disorder was seen in 12.6% of women of that age compared with 3.6% of men.
CMD rates have steadily increased in women and remained largely stable in men, since the last survey in 2007.
Women were also more likely than men to report severe symptoms - 10% of women compared with 6% of men.
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Stats seem a bit dodge but report seems legit. I think biggest confusion here is the 26% being called 1 in 5.
Guys are still ahead in suicide rates though so uhh ye
[quote]Up until then she says she was known as "happy Sarah", a person who would always be smiling and baking cakes, until one day the "facade shattered".[/quote]
I know a few girls like this, several of them have attempted suicide just not caring if they live or die anymore
I feel more needs to be done about depression, if it was more tangibly physical it would be considered an epidemic. It's easy for people who have never suffered it (or even people who have found ways of dealing with it) to judge or say "just do this or that".
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-37504679[/url]
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[quote]26% of young women have self-harmed (10% of young men)
13% of young women screened positive for post-traumatic stress disorder (4% of young men)[/quote]
These are only reported though, and there is still a lot of stigma for men to report this kind of stuff.
[del]That's self reported.
So that would include people who saw a tumblr post on anxiety and decided they have anxiety.[/del]
See below.
[QUOTE=download;51159959]That's self reported.
So that would include people who saw a tumblr post on anxiety and decided they have anxiety.[/QUOTE]
Attitudes like yours are the reason there is a stigma about reporting mental health.
"you've not got a problem, you're just an attention seeker/pussy"
Please stop
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;51159970]Attitudes like yours are the reason there is a stigma about reporting mental health.
[B]"you've not got a problem, you're just an attention seeker/pussy"[/B]
Please stop[/QUOTE]
Nice strawman.
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[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51159967]Self-Reporting symptoms, they dont diagnose themselves.[/QUOTE]
Seems you're right. It's an unexpectedly high number.
3 of my 4 exes had serious chemical depression, so I'd vouch for this stat. No wonder women seem so nuts
Doesn't surprise me. When I was in a therapy group for people with anxiety or depression, I was the only guy among like 12 girls.
Part of that might be due to men being less likely to report their problems and get help. Men probably think they're supposed to be "tough" and all that kind of bullshit.
And then when they don't get any help, they commit suicide because they're too afraid to come forth with it.
When people would hear about me being severely depressed, the usual reaction was "Oh, he just needs to toughen up, there's nothing wrong with him." Ofcourse, then when I actually tried to kill myself people finally understood that something was genuinely wrong.
[QUOTE=download;51159959]That's self reported.
So that would include people who saw a tumblr post on anxiety and decided they have anxiety.[/QUOte]
Two posts, that's all it took folks.
Not everyone spends their entire lives on the internet.
Thread title kinda seems misleading, it's 26% of women "reporting symptoms of anxiety and depression". They weren't all actually diagnosed with mental illnesses and neither do "anxiety and depression" make up all mental illnesses.
[QUOTE=download;51159975]Nice strawman.[/QUOTE]
Your post really wasn't clear. Often when people talk that way about tumblr or similar social media, they're dismissing people's amateur self-diagnoses either because they're looking for attention, or because they're emotionally and hormone-charged, identity searching teenagers. So I can fully understand where mdeceiver79's interpretation of your post was coming from.
If that kinda stuff wasn't what you meant to imply, then I'd politely ask for clarification so nobody has to guess, assume and misinterpret.
[QUOTE=Citizen Insane;51159984]Doesn't surprise me. When I was in a therapy group for people with anxiety or depression, I was the only guy among like 12 girls.
Part of that might be due to men being less likely to report their problems and get help. Men probably think they're supposed to be "tough" and all that kind of bullshit.
And then when they don't get any help, they commit suicide because they're too afraid to come forth with it.
When people would hear about me being severely depressed, the usual reaction was "Oh, he just needs to toughen up, there's nothing wrong with him." Ofcourse, then when I actually tried to kill myself people finally understood that something was genuinely wrong.[/QUOTE]
I think men are also taught, in a way, that it is their fault. Generally men are supposed to be hard working bread winners who get by on their own merit and have control over their life, so a run of bad luck or hard times is, in a way, made to be feel like their fault. Because they (we) already feel emasculated by the failure we protect our ego by avoiding further perceived emasculation which could be caused by asking for help. In most cultures masculinity is earned and a lack of "masculinity" in men is seen as a bad, deny a man his masculinity while telling him he should have it and blaming him for not having it is a disaster waiting to happen.
Doesn't explain the young girl thing though.
[QUOTE=Marik Bentusi;51159997][b]Thread title kinda seems misleading, it's 26% of women "reporting symptoms of anxiety and depression".[/b] They weren't all actually diagnosed with mental illnesses and neither do "anxiety and depression" make up all mental illnesses.
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Sorry I seem to have left out of the OP.
[quote]26% of young women have self-harmed (10% of young men)[/quote]
Added it now.
I suppose it doesn't make it 100% crystal clear but its a p good indication.
Maybe the title wasn't clear, perhaps it should be called something else. Depression and anxiety seem like they could fairly be called mental illness in some way. If someone is physically harming themself from depression or anxiety its probably safe to call it an illness.
Also regarding your second half to that download guy.
People downplay mental health issues like PTSD. Yes soldiers get PTSD but you can get it from none war stuff. I'm not qualified to say whether or not Tumblr snowflakes have it but
[quote]13% of young women screened positive for post-traumatic stress disorder (4% of young men)[/quote]
suggests that its wider spread than is commonly believed.
[QUOTE=download;51159959]That's self reported.
So that would include people who saw a tumblr post on anxiety and decided they have anxiety.[/QUOTE]
Anxiety isn't a hard thing to diagnose though -- lots of people had thought they have it and then gone to a psychiatrist only to be told they do.
Yeah I thought I only had anxiety, went to a therapist, was told that I have anxiety, depression and PTSD.
I don't feel like I have those things.
How many of those women are SJWs or feminists getting triggered to near death and anxiety?
[QUOTE=Nitro836;51160144]How many of those women are SJWs or feminists getting triggered to near death and anxiety?[/QUOTE]
Very little, but thanks for trying.
[QUOTE=download;51159959]That's self reported.
So that would include people who saw a tumblr post on anxiety and decided they have anxiety.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nitro836;51160144]How many of those women are SJWs or feminists getting triggered to near death and anxiety?[/QUOTE]
This kind of shit is the reason people feel stigmatised over mental health issues and are less likely to seek help.
Hey these people might be having some pretty serious problems but at least you managed to make some epic zingers about your favourite internet memes at their expense.
Bring back the dumb rating for sensationalist headlines.
[QUOTE=fulgrim;51160174]This kind of shit is the reason people feel stigmatised over mental health issues and are less likely to seek help.
Bring back the dumb rating for sensationalist headlines.[/QUOTE]
But self-diagnosis is a legitimately bad practice? If anything people perpetrating the belief that you can diagnose mental illnesses on yourself using the internet is making others less likely to seek actual help from professionals, since they believe they no longer need them. So ridiculing this trend actually makes people more likely to seek professional help instead of relying on strangers on the internet.
[QUOTE=Nitro836;51160144]How many of those women are SJWs or feminists getting triggered to near death and anxiety?[/QUOTE]
Come on, don't be such a muggy cunt
[QUOTE=Nitro836;51160144]How many of those women are SJWs or feminists getting triggered to near death and anxiety?[/QUOTE]
Easy contender for worst post I've seen today, congratulations.
Step outside of the Internet for like two seconds before you say something this asinine.
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[QUOTE=_Axel;51160187]But self-diagnosis is a legitimately bad practice? If anything people perpetrating the belief that you can diagnose mental illnesses on yourself using the internet is making others less likely to seek actual help from professionals, since they believe they no longer need them. So ridiculing this trend actually makes people more likely to seek professional help instead of relying on strangers on the internet.[/QUOTE]
We're talking about self reporting symptoms here. Not self diagnosis.
And even on that vein, not everyone can afford to visit a mental health professional for long enough to get a diagnosis. I was paying $35 per visit to a therapist before finding a free one on my campus and that was with REALLY GOOD insurance. I can't imagine how much others may charge for people who have subpar insurance coverage or NO insurance at all. It's not easy to just walk up to a mental health professional and say "gimmi a piece of paper that says I have anxiety".
Self-diagnosis is often a last resort. Yes, in some cases it can be harmful, but in a good majority of them? It's all someone's got to go on.
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Self-diagnosis is also done very often by minors who cant seek outside help due to restrictive parents, abuse in the home, lack of money, or any other number of reasons. Ridiculing them for doing so as no other option is also not productive.
The mental health care system is flawed. Which means more people have to resort to pseudo-psychiatry to help them get through the things they deal with. It's not good practice, of course not. But with so few options, what do you expect someone to do when they can't afford or find professional help?
People without resources or money are left to fend for themselves and if that doesn't upset you then it probably should.
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I realize the article isn't in the US but that's my perspective on it from this end, anyway.
given how expensive/time consuming/awful going to the doctor can be for the littlest of things, it's no wonder a lot of people choose to suffer in silence until one day it just overflows, and then when they're at rock bottom, they're just "another attention seeker ffs"
[QUOTE=_Axel;51160187]But self-diagnosis is a legitimately bad practice? If anything people perpetrating the belief that you can diagnose mental illnesses on yourself using the internet is making others less likely to seek actual help from professionals, since they believe they no longer need them. So ridiculing this trend actually makes people more likely to seek professional help instead of relying on strangers on the internet.[/QUOTE]
I disagree, The fact that people come out to ridicule some dumb storm-in-a-tea-cup internet trend [i] whenever mental health is brought up [/i] shows that it's doing far more harm than good.
This article didn't mention tumblr or the dreaded SJWs at all, but for some reason that's the first thing that comes to mind for some posters the moment the subject of mental health comes up.
I don't see how applying a negative stereotype to people with mental illness is going to help them.
Yeah I'd be one of those that wouldn't have reported if I never got the initial attack, but just the ones after it. I have or had GAD, and if I hadn't had a nearly 4 hour long anxiety attack out of nowhere I probably would've ignored the symptoms that followed. And even then I tried to just wait for it to go away first until it started causing chest pain. Afterwards starting getting these short little bursts of anxiety that went away fairly quickly. And eventually it just kinda tapered off on its own. I'm allergic to two of the meds they tried to use to treat me for it so I'm hoping it never shows up again.
I've had a suspicion that mental health has been more of an issue for the current generation, but was wondering if it's just studied and reported more for various reasons.
But 26% sounds like a ridiculously unbelievable statistic to have persisted over centuries. This has to be a relatively new phenomenon and it needs to be dealt with immediately.
[QUOTE=phaedon;51160301]I've had a suspicion that mental health has been more of an issue for the current generation, but was wondering if it's just studied and reported more for various reasons.[/QUOTE]
We're getting better at identifying it and categorising it. That's pretty much the major shift in the last few decades. Much like all kinds of illness, we're getting better and better at identifying the symptoms earlier and diagnosing as a preventative measure before the patient gets it too bad.
Only a few decades ago things such as Autism were still kinda hard to identify as we didn't have surefire indicators of it, or at the very least we didn't know them very well. The same can be said for depression, anxiety, etc. We now have more case studies to compare against, and can therefore identify cases better and earlier.
Social media has also given new avenues for people who suffer from mental illness to connect and share stories/experiences/support, so when you find one person suffering, likely, they will have found other people to connect to and talk with about their illness. Case in point, the Depression thread in GD. There are so many people with similar stories that it's so common to seek each other out for advice and support.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;51160320]We're getting better at identifying it and categorising it. That's pretty much the major shift in the last few decades. Much like all kinds of illness, we're getting better and better at identifying the symptoms earlier and diagnosing as a preventative measure before the patient gets it too bad.
Only a few decades ago things such as Autism were still kinda hard to identify as we didn't have surefire indicators of it, or at the very least we didn't know them very well. The same can be said for depression, anxiety, etc. We now have more case studies to compare against, and can therefore identify cases better and earlier.[/QUOTE]
Better identification of it also makes it impossible to track epidemiological data over time, since different standards are used.
As far as I can see, we can't be certain that there's been a significant increase, decrease in mental illness, or if it's just been fluctuating around a mean in the past couple of centuries. It just seems counter-intuitive to me, that one in four people have been self-harming over such a long period of modern history without it having obvious and apparent effects to us, even endangering our survival as a species.
Regardless of that, obviously there must have been [i]some[/i] changes to the prevalence of mental illness, positive and negative, as socioeconomic and cultural conditions change over time. Different countries, with different cultures and different conditions have very different suicide rates, for example. And these kinds of conditions can change very rapidly, even in just a few years time.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;51160320]We're getting better at identifying it and categorising it. That's pretty much the major shift in the last few decades. Much like all kinds of illness, we're getting better and better at identifying the symptoms earlier and diagnosing as a preventative measure before the patient gets it too bad.
Only a few decades ago things such as Autism were still kinda hard to identify as we didn't have surefire indicators of it, or at the very least we didn't know them very well. The same can be said for depression, anxiety, etc. We now have more case studies to compare against, and can therefore identify cases better and earlier.[/QUOTE]
that isn't the biggest major shift, though. the introduction of the internet is a far larger shift than our bettering of diagnosing mental illness and i am convinced it has lead to an increase in mental illness
[QUOTE=phaedon;51160301]I've had a suspicion that mental health has been more of an issue for the current generation, but was wondering if it's just studied and reported more for various reasons.
But 26% sounds like a ridiculously unbelievable statistic to have persisted over centuries. This has to be a relatively new phenomenon and it needs to be dealt with immediately.[/QUOTE]
I have my doubts about 26% being a new thing. I'd imagine plenty of people in old ages suffered from anxiety, depressing and similar.
[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;51160691]that isn't the biggest major shift, though. the introduction of the internet is a far larger shift than our bettering of diagnosing mental illness and i am convinced it has lead to an increase in mental illness[/QUOTE]
So exposure to the knowledge we now have on symptoms is bettering our recognition of mental illness?
Awesome, glad we agree then!
(if you were intending for that post to be some "FUCKING SJWS!!!" style thing, you may want to slow down a bit. "The Internet" is used by many millions of people, only a minuscule fraction of which are even exposed to this particular area of it. It's not going to be enough to inflate numbers to a 1 in 4 ratio. Besides, this study is reporting of symptoms, not self diagnosis as self diagnosing is prone to false positives)
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51160702]I have my doubts about 26% being a new thing. I'd imagine plenty of people in old ages suffered from anxiety, depressing and similar.[/QUOTE]
I agree, I think most people just hid their pain/feelings from others because its seen as a weakness. Women are generally more open about their feelings than men so thats probably a reason why the male to female percentages are so off. Many women weren't treated very well back in the day and their opinions really didn't matter to most men, so that is likely also apart of the higher modern percentages.
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