Judge who presided over El Chapo appeals assassinated while jogging outside home - Polidicks

[quote]A Mexican judge who presided over appeals by drug cartel figures including Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman has been assassinated while jogging outside his home. Judge Vicente Bermudez, 37, was executed by a gunman who ran up and shot him in the back of the head. The killing happened in Metepec, 40 miles from Mexico City, and was captured by a surveillance camera. The footage showed the assassin, dressed in dark clothing, running up behind the judge and firing before fleeing the scene. According to local reports the judge was rushed to hospital but could not be saved. He had dealt with legal challenges brought by lawyers representing Guzman, the head of the Sinaloa drug cartel. The judge had also dealt with appeals by lawyers on behalf of Miguel Trevino, ex-leader of the Zetas cartel. Trevino is being held at the maximum security Altiplano jail which is close to the judge's home. [/quote] [url]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/10/18/el-chapo-judge-assassinated-while-jogging-outside-his-home/[/url]

Damn, that's fucked up.

Holy crap this is some scary shit. I've always been under the impression that the prosecutor is the one who could be subject to threats because of their role of laying forward the dirt against the suspect, and the judge as the neutral party just ruling over what has been put forward.

[QUOTE=IQ-Guldfisk;51223292]Holy crap this is some scary shit. I've always been under the impression that the prosecutor is the one who could be subject to threats because of their role of laying forward the dirt against the suspect, and the judge as the neutral party just ruling over what has been put forward.[/QUOTE] The cartels probably don't care who's "neutral" and would rather eliminate any threats altogether if given the opportunity.

This is how you assassinate someone ukrainian neo-nazis, not blowing him up in an elevator.

[QUOTE=RikohZX;51223307]The cartels probably don't care who's "neutral" and would rather eliminate any threats altogether if given the opportunity.[/QUOTE] No yeah of course, but I've always just been under the impression that they were the ones that was usually targeted.

[QUOTE=GhillieBacca;51223334]This is how you assassinate someone ukrainian neo-nazis, not blowing him up in an elevator.[/QUOTE] except one guy is a judge who was jogging and the other being a commander of a militia with military training and possibly carrying a weapon on him

Pretty spooky how it sounds just like one of the Hitman levels, goddamn it 47

[QUOTE=darth-veger;51223593]Pretty spooky how it sounds just like one of the Hitman levels, goddamn it 47[/QUOTE] it's just like one of my video games!!

You'd think someone in a judicial position hearing cases on the cartels would be given protection, but I guess not. How many judges have the Mexicans lost to assassinations over the years?

Supposedly this judge also denied the Mexican Government's request for a speedy extradition to the United States. That seems really counter-productive, the sooner El Chapo is out of the reach of potentially corrupt authorities, the better. We don't need an Escobar situation where the prisoner owns the prison and the guards. What's most shocking is that the lack of security around this judge. Just because he lived in an upscale neighborhood doesn't mean he's safe.

[QUOTE=Jacam12SUX;51223611]it's just like one of my video games!![/QUOTE] Amazing isn't it :`)

[QUOTE=IQ-Guldfisk;51223292]Holy crap this is some scary shit. I've always been under the impression that the prosecutor is the one who could be subject to threats because of their role of laying forward the dirt against the suspect, and the judge as the neutral party just ruling over what has been put forward.[/QUOTE] Judges have been targeted by cartels for their rulings before. I'm assuming that they try to buy/intimidate them and if that fails they just kill them.

[QUOTE=meek;51224354]Judges have been targeted by cartels for their rulings before. I'm assuming that they try to buy/intimidate them and if that fails they just kill them.[/QUOTE] I doubt the cartel is even nice enough to try buying/intimidating him. Just kill him if it doesn't go their way

[QUOTE=Kylel999;51224471]I doubt the cartel is even nice enough to try buying/intimidating him. Just kill him if it doesn't go their way[/QUOTE] What are they going to do, kill every judge in the nation until Mexico goes "well, no more judges, guess we should give up this whole court thing?" They have to make a move on a judge for a favorable ruling eventually.

Shoot El Chapo in the face and get it over with.

[QUOTE=Omali;51224485]Shoot El Chapo in the face and get it over with.[/QUOTE] Seriously is there any innocent person out there like "yeah he's innocent! Free Chapo!"??? Everyone knows he's guilty as fuck

[QUOTE=Omali;51224485]Shoot El Chapo in the face and get it over with.[/QUOTE] That's inhumane, we need to rehabilitate him. Everyone deserves to be rehabilitated, nobody deserves to die. :downs:

[QUOTE=Omali;51224485]Shoot El Chapo in the face and get it over with.[/QUOTE] That won't really solve anything. If anything it will make him even more popular due to Mexican narco culture and such. Even if he died and nobody found out, somebody will take his place, and more people will come and they will keep coming once the previous one is killed or is detained. Corruption and violence is something that is built around our culture in some way. You don't need to really go too far to notice it. In the university where I study at, people usually keep note of "ship" teachers, teachers who accept bribes so students can just not go to class and get higher grades. When applying to scholarships (those given to people with no money to study), a lot of people lie about their situations (usually mentioning that they live in borderline absolute poverty) and then they go to pick up their paychecks and receive government money while wearing luxury clothing and carry expensive smartphones. (I'm guilty of doing this too but it's mostly because my parents TELL ME to do it). Mexican politicians are probably the most corrupt scum on earth. Our ex-governors and senators have stolen a bunch of cash from state funds and then they proceed to post on FB about their luxury properties, vehicles and such. Let's not forget that one time the daughter of our current president insulted working class people for criticizing the president, because according to her we are all jealous of her father. In the city where I live there is a huge wealth gap, rich and upper class middle people live all in protected neighborhoods (colonies), they hire security, put barbed wire and fence, everyone lives so afraid of violence that instead of locking up the criminals, we decided to lock ourselves up instead. There were times where people just stopped going to nightclubs and going to parties because there were frequent threats about cartel shootouts. Some days you woke up and the first thing you saw were people being found hanging on overpasses and bridges, dead people being found on trash cans, inside abandoned cars. I remember this one time some people from High school were having a prom event with their entire class, then a bunch of henchmen arrived and killed everyone just because they were going after one fucking guy. They had to kill everyone, even if they were innocent, harmless and scared. Doesn't help that Mexican Laws are also some of the worst out there. If a criminal kills you or your family government doesn't really do anything but if you kill a criminal who tried to kill you, oh boy, you get fucked in the ass by every single Mexican authority. Source: Mexican facepuncher. After enraging everyone in the GTA thread my flagdog was changed to brazil, don't know if it happned because of it or not.

[QUOTE=Govna;51224610]That's inhumane, we need to rehabilitate him. Everyone deserves to be rehabilitated, nobody deserves to die. :downs:[/QUOTE] Has even one single person ever argued this? The argument against the death penalty is not that everybody can be rehabilitated, it's just that the death penalty is pointless and barbaric. It accomplishes nothing.

[QUOTE=Sgt. Nikolai;51224685]holy shit[/QUOTE] How the hell can you bear living there? That culture is just so barbaric, living in fear of a moment turning right to shit.

[QUOTE=CroGamer002;51223262]Damn, that's fucked up.[/QUOTE] Tuesday in Mexico.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;51224719]Has even one single person ever argued this? [/quote] don't you [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1508593&p=50997367#post50997367]remember[/url]?

[QUOTE=Perrine;51224831]don't you [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1508593&p=50997367#post50997367]remember[/url]?[/QUOTE] How can anybody be this delusional?

[QUOTE=Perrine;51224831]don't you [url=https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1508593&p=50997367#post50997367]remember[/url]?[/QUOTE] I mean, fair enough. That's a ridiculous argument, for sure. That said, I see people ironically complaining about this mentality a hell of a lot more than I see people who genuinely have it. A rehabilitative prison system is [B]objectively[/B] better than a punitive one, by every measurable standard, but even in the world's most progressive prison systems it is generally understood that some people simply can't be rehabilitated and will have to be in prison for life. Like, Norway will never release Anders Breivik, for example.