Does Schizophrenia/Schizo Personality Disorder have to be a bad thing? - General

[B]NOT RELATED TO = Schizophrenic Mental Disorder[/B] After the "Is being Normal a good thing thread" kind of failed because a bandwagon of "I'm not normal" went around and didn't make things interesting. Here is a topic that most people would be uncomfortable with. I feel we all have it to a degree, for example.. we would talk differently to certain kinds of people thus changing our personality to a different one in order to be socially acceptable. Now, wikipedia mentions that people with this disorder are likely to do weird and eccentric things. Again, why do people take it to be a bad thing? It makes perfect sense to change how you speak in order for the other person to relate to you. Being just "you", is a solitude personality that pretty much is normal. I can describe the disorder in a way people can look at, in a good light: Personalities can be like a tree, the trunk would be the main core personality that you deal with on a regular basis by yourself, when thinking about life. The branches you set off are things like how you think with certain kinds of people, what you do, how you dress and how you judge reality. There are so many variations of personalities, that the branches could pretty much be unlimited. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;32604924]There's a difference between schizophrenia and insanity. No, I don't think so.[/QUOTE] I think plain schizophrenia is insanity, so I won't talk about that. Or maybe it's offensive.

Paranoid Schizophrenia is probably one of the worst illnesses that you can have. It shows up when you're a teenager and causes you to become completely isolated, as no one wants to hear the crazy things that the affected person believes is real, due to them thinking that their reality is very dream like. It's worse when said person has to raise children, when they don't know any better. The child just ends up becoming fucked in the head because it takes them much longer to learn right from wrong. So no, it's not a good thing, ever, in my opinion.

Personality disorders are not a good thing and should be muffled up or treated.

Mental disorders are a bad thing. I don't think you have control on how you swap personalities with schizophrenia.

[QUOTE=WaLLy3K;32604986]due to them thinking that their reality is very dream like. [/QUOTE] It only freaks out the weak minded. If someone finds a true thrill in music or art or whatever, they sometimes express themselves in ways that aren't in the "rigid, conventional scientific" way. It's freedom of the mind imo. [editline]3rd October 2011[/editline] I want to edit the thread title because this thread isn't about the mental disorder.

Schizophrenia isn't a nice thing to have at all, but if dealt with appropriately then it's not a bad thing. I've read about writers and artists who have done well in their work while dealing with Schizophrenia. I think one of my uncles has it, I don't know much about him or his condition but my dad said his came on from heavy LSD use.

[QUOTE=Peppermint;32605136]Schizophrenia isn't a nice thing to have at all, but if dealt with appropriately then it's not a bad thing. I've read about writers and artists who have done well in their work while dealing with Schizophrenia. I think one of my uncles has it, I don't know much about him or his condition but my dad said his came on from heavy LSD use.[/QUOTE] Well clearly.. Someone like Syd Barrett comes directly to mind there. But I don't mean it in the sense of people going crazy. It's only about identity disorders.

[QUOTE=AK'z;32605014]It only freaks out the weak minded. If someone finds a true thrill in music or art or whatever, they sometimes express themselves in ways that aren't in the "rigid, conventional scientific" way. It's freedom of the mind imo. [/quote] I hate the idea that someone can't get over their mental disorder because they're weak. They're not weak, they're sick. [quote]I want to edit the thread title because this thread isn't about the mental disorder.[/QUOTE] Wait, so you confused eccentric behaviour with schizophrenia?

[QUOTE=Jabberwocky;32605157] Wait, so you confused eccentric behaviour with schizophrenia?[/QUOTE] Yes sir.

Being eccentric has [U]NOTHING[/U] to do with schizophrenia or psychosis, etc.

So is this just about identity disorders or does it include things like depressed people having better critical thinking skills or other disorders leading to greatness eg. Vincent van Gogh. Two parts of it, directly caused by the issue and something as a consequence of that issue. Artists who have been through hardships like mental disorders can be more inspired, but does that play more of a role than the actual disorder changing their brain compared to others? Can a mental disorder be used in the same way any other inspiration could, or does the disorder itself play a very important part? Undoubtedly though, it can be a good thing. Obviously not always going to be the case, but it's not a curse.

[QUOTE=MrEndangered;32605188]Being eccentric has [U]NOTHING[/U] to do with schizophrenia or psychosis, etc.[/QUOTE] [quote= Wiki]Not to be confused with Schizoid personality disorder, Schizotypal personality disorder,[/quote] Simple mistake.

Well, mental disorders can lead to interesting aesthetic results. [img]http://forgetomori.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/cat.jpg[/img] This is a drawing of a cat by Louis Wain as the symptoms of schizophrenia worsened. EDIT: Or perhaps not. There's a lot of controversy around this.

Well it would be nice if people read the OP rather than make their mind up about a wrong thread title.

Anyone see "A Beautiful Mind"? Wasn't his ability in math amplified by Schizophrenia?

[QUOTE=J!NX;32605388]Anyone see "A Beautiful Mind"? Wasn't his ability in math amplified by Schizophrenia?[/QUOTE] Yes, brilliant movie. However, that's more on the side of "dilussions" rather than personality.

[QUOTE=AK'z;32605402]Yes, brilliant movie. However, that's more on the side of "dilussions" rather than personality.[/QUOTE] His delusions gave him a brilliant personality however. Getting over them could lead to a better person, after all.

[QUOTE=J!NX;32605428]His delusions gave him a brilliant personality however. Getting over them could lead to a better person, after all.[/QUOTE] True, but the images of these other people were causing the problems. It's a topic that is very sensitive because there are many people with that disorder who can't "get over" their visions and thus are forever lost.

Never a good thing, but it shouldn't necessarily be a bad thing

I mentioned having Paranoid Schizophrenia on here but not wanting to be treated any differently than anyone else and was called an teenage attention whore when I hardly tell anyone about it :v:

Yeah, this thread has failed to get people to understand what I'm on about. Failure to read OP = failed thread.

[QUOTE=AK'z;32608740]Yeah, this thread has failed to get people to understand what I'm on about. Failure to read OP = failed thread.[/QUOTE] The OP sounds very confused, especially with what it is trying to get across. A big part of this confusion comes in from the title, but it also comes in from the structure as it jumps between a lot of ideas. The issue is the OP, not that people didn't read it. I really didn't get what you were trying to say the first time I read it. I'd suggest requesting a title change and making the OP a lot more clear. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is what I believe you are trying to address People tend to act in totally different ways around different groups of people. Take a fictional guy named Brad. Around girls a he may be a sexual deviant who is nothing but cocky. Around a group guy friends, he may be modest and calm. Around his family, he might behave in a way his girl or guy friends may have never expected, such as being a whiny brat that never stops crying. Some people describe this of having multiple personalities, though that of course gets a bit confusing this behavior has no relation with the mental disorder of multiple personalities. I'm sure people have experienced the scenario where they make a friend who behaves one way when they are just with you, and a completely different way when someone else with them. This is commonly portrayed in many sitcoms where a popular girl will talk with a geeky guy, but will totally change behavior when her friends come on the scene. The question I believe AK'z is asking is, is this practice necessarily bad? Is it best to act one particular way being consistent with your personality among all groups, or should how you act be according to the group?

[QUOTE=Pepin;32609418] People tend to act in totally different ways around different groups of people. Around girls a guy may be a sexual deviant who is nothing but cocky. Around a group of this guy's best friend, he may be modest and calm. Around his family, he might behave in a way the girls or guys may have never expected, such as being a whiny brat. Some people describe this of having multiple personalities. I'm sure people have experienced the scenario where they make a friend who behaves one way when they are just with you, and a completely different way when someone else with them. This is commonly portrayed in many sitcoms. The question I believe AK'z is asking is, is this practice necessarily bad? Is it best to act one particular way being consistent with your personality among all groups, or should how you act be according to the group?[/QUOTE] Seriously... I couldn't have put it better. Now what to do?

You can PM a mod to change the title. You can copy my post if you want, just realize that I added a bit.

[quote] Is it best to act one particular way being consistent with your personality among all groups, or should how you act be according to the group? [/quote] Terrible title. Must condense.

interesting concept / thread. Never thought of it really although now I think about it I heard my aunty once state that when she visted the UK her friends started speaking with an australian twany whilst she was around. Perhaps not a mental awareness its happening ? I mean hell she was in Birmingham

I have schizoaffective bipolar type. It's like mild schizophrenia and severe bipolar mixed together. It's definitely not a good thing. The psychosis lowers your IQ, makes you dumber. You have weird delusions - I used to believe I was the second coming of Jesus Christ. You hear things - one time when I was detoxing off xanax I heard these creepy demonic screaming noises all night. Which brings me to the next point, that people with these mental illnesses are highly likely to use drugs to ease the pain of mental illness, which usually ends up exacerbating the disorder. And talk about social isolation. I ran off every friend I ever had before I got medicated. These disorders are a really bad thing and cause lots of pain to the afflicted and his or her loved ones. It's a chronic illness, and like herpes, no one enjoys it.

[QUOTE=Pepin;32609418] People tend to act in totally different ways around different groups of people. Take a fictional guy named Brad. Around girls a he may be a sexual deviant who is nothing but cocky. Around a group guy friends, he may be modest and calm. Around his family, he might behave in a way his girl or guy friends may have never expected, such as being a whiny brat that never stops crying. Some people describe this of having multiple personalities, though that of course gets a bit confusing this behavior has no relation with the mental disorder of multiple personalities. I'm sure people have experienced the scenario where they make a friend who behaves one way when they are just with you, and a completely different way when someone else with them. This is commonly portrayed in many sitcoms where a popular girl will talk with a geeky guy, but will totally change behavior when her friends come on the scene. The question I believe AK'z is asking is, is this practice necessarily bad? Is it best to act one particular way being consistent with your personality among all groups, or should how you act be according to the group?[/QUOTE] Doesn't pretty much everyone do that?

basically pepin just described me. that's creepy.