[quote]Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) will launch a campaign seeking the Democratic nomination for president in 2016 on Thursday.
Sanders will be the first official challenger for the Democratic nomination to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who launched her campaign earlier this month.
Sanders' decision was first reported by Vermont Public Radio, and confirmed by The Huffington Post.
Sanders, who first entered the Senate in 2007, has criticized Clinton for being too soft on Wall Street and has doubted whether Clinton can address income inequality.
Sanders has been an outspoken critic of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a trade deal the Obama administration is negotiating with 11 Pacific countries. Sanders is also a critic of the controversial Citizens United Supreme Court decision, which struck down corporate campaign contribution limits. Sanders has tried to pass a constitutional amendment to overturn the decision.[/quote]
[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/28/bernie-sanders-presidential-campaign_n_7165270.html[/url]
Woo, glad he is. But something tells me he won't win, mainly cause of his ideas, especially with healthcare. I like it, but I'm not sure the rest of the United States will.
Well, he can remain senator for a little bit longer but he is getting old. He may have more of an impact if he gathers attention to issues through campaigning once for president than just being in the senate.
Official announcement is coming Thursday, with a major campaign kickoff in Vermont sometime in May
If I lived in the USA I would vote for that guy out of the principle, even if he had no chance of winning.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;47620495]If I lived in the USA I would vote for that guy out of the principle, even if he had no chance of winning.[/QUOTE]
That would mean you're voting for [I]socialism[/I] how dare you.
[QUOTE=Code3Response;47620575]That would mean you're voting for [I]socialism[/I] how dare you.[/QUOTE]
communism, socialism call it what you like, they're both a little red!
gooooo bernie!
Well, glad this guy is running, but i have a bad feeling he won't win.
Honestly, I'm just sad he isn't running as an independent or third party. I'll still support his campaign in the Democratic Party, but building up an alternative would have been much better. At least this will serve as something for the left to regroup over.
Sucks that he's running for democrat, he doesn't have much of a chance in the primaries I dont think.
And just like that, I actually someone to vote for in the elections.
if sanders somehow wins the nomination, it's guaranteed that the GOP candidate is going to end up in office
i seriously doubt that a self-proclaimed socialist is going to do anything but alienate swing voters
not to mention that the PACs would have a field day
Fox News's Facebook is going crazy right now
[QUOTE=joes33431;47621076]if sanders somehow wins the nomination, it's guaranteed that the GOP candidate is going to end up in office
i seriously doubt that a self-proclaimed socialist is going to do anything but alienate swing voters
not to mention that the PACs would have a field day[/QUOTE]
All of that may be, though that's not going to stop me from casting my vote for policies I believe in.
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47620681]Sucks that he's running for democrat, he doesn't have much of a chance in the primaries I dont think.[/QUOTE]
This is exactly the attitude that would make him lose.
[QUOTE=Octavius;47620640]Honestly, I'm just sad he isn't running as an independent or third party. I'll still support his campaign in the Democratic Party, but building up an alternative would have been much better. At least this will serve as something for the left to regroup over.[/QUOTE]
Running as a third-party here in the U.S means you are practically guaranteed to lose the election. He made a smart decision by running as a Democrat. Now the issue will be does he have enough sway over the Democrats to beat Hillary in the primaries? Fuck that bitch but she has a hell of a lot of power and has a recognizable name to boot.
[QUOTE=Amez;47621267]Running as a third-party here in the U.S means you are practically guaranteed to lose the election. He made a smart decision by running as a Democrat. Now the issue will be does he have enough sway over the Democrats to beat Hillary in the primaries? Fuck that bitch but she has a hell of a lot of power and has a recognizable name to boot.[/QUOTE]
Obama did it. And so can Bernie.
Believe in Bernie 2016
He's getting my vote
He doesn't have to win. He just has to do well enough that the American political scene sees that many people agree with his ideas. Hopefully then Democrats will try to appeal more to the voters who chose Bernie.
I'll fucking vote in my states primaries for Sanders if it means that Hillary doesn't get anywhere near presidency.
[QUOTE=LoganIsAwesome;47621082]Fox News's Facebook is going crazy right now[/QUOTE]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/9rWuAgH.png[/img]
[QUOTE='Poesidan [GAG];47621153']All of that may be, though that's not going to stop me from casting my vote for policies I believe in.[/QUOTE]
i would wait to exercise that strategy until the voting system doesn't effectively force you to choose between having either a fraction of or none of your beliefs represented
because if what i suggested becomes reality then you're essentially choosing 'none' over 'some'
Heres some motivation for Bernie
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cJUBOZE26k[/media]
[QUOTE=OvB;47621415][img]http://i.imgur.com/9rWuAgH.png[/img][/QUOTE]
So much promise with that first comment but then... Well you know the rest.
[QUOTE=OvB;47621415][img]http://i.imgur.com/9rWuAgH.png[/img][/QUOTE]
it's funny for a second until I remember that these are actual people.
[editline]28th April 2015[/editline]
how the heck can anyone still believe that Obama is a muslim? why? because he isn't white?
????????
[QUOTE=Octavius;47620640]Honestly, I'm just sad he isn't running as an independent or third party. I'll still support his campaign in the Democratic Party, but building up an alternative would have been much better. At least this will serve as something for the left to regroup over.[/QUOTE]
As much as I hate to say it, NO third-party candidate has ever come close to the other two parties in terms of votes or support. I think the last time any third-party candidate got any attention at all was Ross Perot, that adorable little gremlin.
But by running as a Democrat, and considering that Hillary is slowly garnering a less-than-stellar reputation, he has a much better chance I feel, even if he does identify as a socialist.
[QUOTE=Octavius;47620640]Honestly, I'm just sad he isn't running as an independent or third party. I'll still support his campaign in the Democratic Party, but building up an alternative would have been much better. At least this will serve as something for the left to regroup over.[/QUOTE]
Because if he ran alongside a Democrat candidate in the final election he could possibly take enough votes away from the Democrat candidate, who otherwise would have had the most votes, and give the victory to the Republican candidate.
Not my business, but would he be able to handle it all being 74-78 years old ? It's not like he's the President of Germany or Italy who doesn't do nothing...
[QUOTE=AntonioR;47621650]Not my business, but would he be able to handle it all being 74-78 years old ? It's not like he's the President of Germany or Italy who doesn't do nothing...[/QUOTE]
It's alright, he'll just be 94 by the time he gets out of office. Man that job ages the shit out of people.
My prediction is this: Hillary will run a strong and woman-focused campaign up until the primaries. However, she's going to be the forerunner for most of this, and as such, will get the most shit flung on her as she moves ahead in the coming weeks. Sanders will be behind her, getting a residual shit-spray (most of which will involve people using the term "socialist" like they're swearing) but maintaining his integrity along the way. He'll jump from behind in near the primaries and come beat out Hillary by a small margin.
Whoever the Republican candidate is will place a lot of pressure on Sanders' age and socialist stances. For the most part, Sanders will be able to hold off the assault, and maybe, just maybe, win the presidency. He will have to run with an extraordinarily strong and charismatic VP, because that's the only way I see him being able to effectively argue off his age –my replacement will be more than qualified, even if I do happen to die while in office. I would argue that McCain lost in large part to the general incompetence and insanity that was Palin, and even die-hard Republicans were hard-pressed to rationalize voting for him on that basis.
Things are still off in the distant future, and speculation made today can easily change tomorrow, but my general understanding of Sanders and his standing in politics leads me to believe that if anyone has a shot at winning over both sides of the isle on at least a few key points, it's him. That's more than almost most of the candidates can say at this point, since most of them run along pure party lines.
It's actually favorable for him to have registered on the Democratic ticket after being a third-party advocate for so long –it gives him the ability to say "I'm not a party-line guy. I want what's best for America, and because of our flawed system, the only way for me to have a shot at making that vision a reality was to join a party that I have some qualms with." It opens him up to fire from the left, but they won't shoot because most people understand that he is probably one of the best options we have, and they want the Republicans to lose more than they want to win.
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