• ReportOfTheWeek/Reviewbrah - It's a matter of perspective (about YouTube demonetisation)
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[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppcYoem3URo[/media]
You know that bot is fucking broken when it flags food review videos.
[QUOTE=usaokay;52751700]This guy is the least likely person to be targeted by the demonetization bot. Except for that time when [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FibK1154Gjg]he was eating in the middle of a shootout,[/url] his videos don't contain a shred of anything that families would hate.[/QUOTE] Maybe the demonetization bot hates his use of suits while reviewing different foods.
His channel is the most up front, advertiser friendly channel that anyone could theoretically make. It's even an advert generator for products, so just by existing it automatically creates new advertising for these companies. It's about as clean as a channel could be of anything negative, to the point where its pretty universally respectable. Its pretty clear to me that this isn't a matter of advertisers dumping youtube, this is a youtube dumping advertisers. I 100% blame all of this on google.
At this point I have to ask who isn't getting flagged?
[QUOTE=Psyke89;52751973]At this point I have to ask who isn't getting flagged?[/QUOTE] Id say youtube's own videos but even that seems doubtful at this point.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52751899] Its pretty clear to me that this isn't a matter of advertisers dumping youtube, this is a youtube dumping advertisers. I 100% blame all of this on google.[/QUOTE] People have said that they upload a video, keep it private due to scheduled uploads or for whatever other reason, and it's demonetized before anyone can even see it or report it. So it's 100% some horrifically shitty youtube bot doing this, which is terrible since people's income are being affected by them doing live tests of it like this.
Can't really watch the video right now, but could it be that the bot also integrates stuff from elsewhere on the internet? Like RoTW has been posted a lot on facepunch/reddit and other forums, so maybe it sorta takes the audience into account and decides that the content is probably unsuitable simply by association?
I wonder if the bot is crapping out over the brand names? For example, some advertisers might not want to advertise near certain other companies (as stupid as that sounds).
I had a dream he ran me over in my dads car
[QUOTE=JCDentonUNATCO;52751986]People have said that they upload a video, keep it private due to scheduled uploads or for whatever other reason, and it's demonetized before anyone can even see it or report it. So it's 100% some horrifically shitty youtube bot doing this, which is terrible since people's income are being affected by them doing live tests of it like this.[/QUOTE] whats worse is that DMCA/copyright crap was already pretty awful this isn't even the icing on the cake, its more like a wet turd on the cake of shit
I've had a few of my videos demonetized recently but I can't see any pattern at all, mostly old tf2 videos no one really watches but still a pretty shitty thing. Apparently a video featuring [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AmrJ0y7MJQ"]100,000 bloody skeleton corpses[/URL] is fine but [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYrp4AqQND8"]stretched out player models[/URL] aren't ad friendly
Youtube has an AI that they have basically let loose on the site. You cannot expect any logic to these demonetizations. The only place you can see any real human influence is in videos that clearly should fit the criteria of demonetization, but for some reason is not demonetized. (Jimmy Kimmel)
this guy should take some of his youtube and patreon money and buy a nice suit so grandad can have his back
Youtube is hemorrhaging money iirc. They haven't made a profit since... ever I think. I think this is less someone being greedy and more pulling damage control to not get further in the red (ideally the alternative to some executive deciding to charge per-view or mining your CPU usage or something stupid). It still doesn't give them the right to fuck over people's livelihoods, but for all of the demand for it, there's no serious Youtube alternative. There probably won't be until someone finds a way to make money with it. YT is kept on life support only by Google.
[QUOTE=J!NX;52751899]His channel is the most up front, advertiser friendly channel that anyone could theoretically make. It's even an advert generator for products, so just by existing it automatically creates new advertising for these companies. It's about as clean as a channel could be of anything negative, to the point where its pretty universally respectable. Its pretty clear to me that this isn't a matter of advertisers dumping youtube, this is a youtube dumping advertisers. I 100% blame all of this on google.[/QUOTE] It wouldn't be happening if moral busybodies weren't willing to fuck everyones shit up just to lash back and show how high and mighty they are. But yes, Google needs to be more upfront and transparent about how they operate, they are waaaaay too big and important to be doing this.
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I would be really curious what kinds of detection methods Google is using for their advertisement evaluation. Almost looks like some neural network based system that never got trained and now its out in the wild training on live videos destroying peoples income and Google probably sitting quietly, hoping it will improve because people report false negatives. Then again, what is running there that Reviewbrah gets hit too? With a ton of other people you can easily see why it would get hit but here it makes no sense.
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