HMS Bounty sinks off N.C. coast; two still missing
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[QUOTE]The Coast Guard is searching for two people off the coast of North Carolina who had been passengers aboard the tall ship HMS Bounty, which lost power Monday in Hurricane Sandy and sank after 14 other passengers were rescued.
The Coast Guard said that a C-130 Hercules aircraft and a MH-60 Jayhawk helicopter are still scouring the waters for the two missing people who somehow did not get airlifted from their life rafts about 90 miles off Hatteras on the Outer Banks. As of late Monday morning, the Coast Guard had not completed its interviews with the 14 survivors, and had not identified the missing people.
The Coast Guard also said it has not determined why the missing people were not among those initially rescued.
The HMS Bounty, a three-masted sailing ship that has appeared in two Hollywood movies, was reportedly sailing from Connecticut to St. Petersburg, Fla., when it began taking on too much water and lost propulsion.
The HMS Bounty Organization, which owns the ship, alerted the Coast Guard early Monday morning that it lost radio contact with its vessel Sunday night, according to the Coast Guard. After receiving the call from the owner, the Coast Guard’s 5th District command center in Portsmouth, Va., then received a distress signal from the HMS Bounty, indicating its position.
The Coast Guard dispatched two Jayhawk helicopters to the scene, where passengers had already abandoned the ship and boarded 25-foot life rafts. The Coast Guard said the passengers wore cold-water survival suits and life jackets and that the lifeboats had canopies.
In general, Coast Guard rescue helicopters lower baskets into the water and deploy rescue swimmers who help passengers climb into the baskets.
“With 40 mile-per-hour winds, 18-foot seas, waves and swells, and a mile of visibility, those are absolutely challenging circumstances to conduct this kind of hoist operation,” said Lt. Mike Patterson, a Coast Guard spokesman. “That’s a testimony to what our folks do.”
The HMS Bounty Organization could not be reached for comment. Its Web site said the ship was built for the 1962 film “Mutiny on the Bounty,” which starred Marlon Brando. The ship was also used in the 2006 film “Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest.”[/QUOTE]
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A tragic loss of both life and ship.
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Why would they sail this in stormy weather?
Also from other sources, it's unclear whether the ship sunk or not. It was abandoned after it lost power.
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Why would they sail this in stormy weather?
Also from other sources, it's unclear whether the ship sunk or not. It was abandoned after it lost power.[/QUOTE]
Lost power? You mean those replicas don't use their sails? D:
[QUOTE=Kartoffel;38236272]Lost power? You mean those replicas don't use their sails? D:[/QUOTE]
they probably still use sails, but they would have to gave generators to keep their electronics working. Radios, GPS', that sort of stuff. Why would they try and sail through a hurricane? Thats just insane.
I hope she didn't sink, that ship is goddamned beautiful.
And I hope those sailors are found alive too :(
Atleast the ship is a really nice movie prop and not a real historical vessel. They can always build a new one if she did go down.
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Why would they sail this in stormy weather?
Also from other sources, it's unclear whether the ship sunk or not. It was abandoned after it lost power.[/QUOTE]
Probably an attempt to save the ship actually, being bashed around in port will sink a ship pretty quick too.
Someone mentioned that she may just be adrift, with the story of sinking to keep salvagers from trying to claim her since no one is aboard.
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;38236950]Probably an attempt to save the ship actually, being bashed around in port will sink a ship pretty quick too.
Someone mentioned that she may just be adrift, with the story of sinking to keep salvagers from trying to claim her since no one is aboard.[/QUOTE]
If you're trying to avoid your ship being damaged in port from a hurricane, it kind of defeats the point if you're going to try and sail it through the hurricane.
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;38237212]If you're trying to avoid your ship being damaged in port from a hurricane, it kind of defeats the point if you're going to try and sail it through the hurricane.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, they're about a week late in getting out of the way.
Such a valuable ship, I would have had that thing headed out of harms way at the whisper of a hurricane.
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny_on_the_Bounty]Mutiny on the Bounty![/url]
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;38237284]Yeah, they're about a week late in getting out of the way.
Such a valuable ship, I would have had that thing headed out of harms way at the whisper of a hurricane.[/QUOTE]
Pretty accurate comment from the CBC article on this.
[quote]lets see, Tropical storm, 1000 miles wide. Tall ship, travels at about 5 knots, downwind. If you are directly in the path of the storm and you predict exactly where it is heading it will take a minimum of 85 hours to get out of the way.
The forecasts are projected into the future for 72 hours.
It is never advisable to cross the path (crossing the T) of a hurricane and thus routing would probably send a vessel on a much longer route than would appear obvious.
In addition with high winds and seas, the vessel would eventually be put into a "hove to" configuration, with just enough sail up to hold the vessel "bow to the wind". Riding the storm out does not get one out of the way, but a sound vessel should be able to withstand 85 knot winds.
Please note that this is a very late in season tropical storm, and as such is a rarity.
Unlike Yachts, the captain of a vessel like this did not just decide to put on a jaunty hat and go to sea. There is years of sea time required plus a great deal of school, examinations and practical experience.
The simple explanation for why the hell were they out there, is because they wanted to go from point A to point B. Why they got into trouble is another matter, which will be discovered soon enough. There were survivors, and the story will come out.?[/quote]
Oh yes, and the ship's sole method of propulsion are its sails.
[editline]29th October 2012[/editline]
[url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/29/ns-coast-guard-video-bounty.html]Video of the rescue[/url]
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[URL="http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/29/ns-coast-guard-video-bounty.html"]Video of the rescue[/URL][/QUOTE]
[quote] The Bounty has sunk, but rescue crews reported that the mast is still visible.[/quote]
:(
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;38237399][url=http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/story/2012/10/29/ns-coast-guard-video-bounty.html]Video of the rescue[/url][/QUOTE]
That's pretty crazy. The water is swelling so high it's setting of Betty!
Apparently one of the missing crew is the captain himself and the other is woman who is a direct descendent of Fletcher Christian.
The sinking seems to have been a result of taking on too much water which stopped the engine they were using, and they didn't have enough people to manage the sails, basically set adrift in a storm on a ship they couldn't control.
This calls for mutiny.
On a serious note, it is a shame about the people.
you'd think they wouldn't risk a ship like that in a storm
Wow, I met the captain when it was in Halifax this summer. I don't expect anybody to survive those waters though. Too bad, he was a nice guy.
The missing crew member has been found but didn't survive, the Captain is still missing.
[url]http://5newsonline.com/2012/10/29/claudine-christian-missing/[/url]
[QUOTE=RR_Raptor65;38243503]The missing crew member has been found but didn't survive, the Captain is still missing.
[url]http://5newsonline.com/2012/10/29/claudine-christian-missing/[/url][/QUOTE]
A good captain goes down with his ship ;_;7
Seen this ship quite a few times myself. Shame. It always amazed me how it managed to sail out of the bay despite a strong incoming tide, with wind in the face. I may have pictures of it still on my laptop, I'll have to have a look
It's a shame. I was on a tall ship in British Columbia and a guy I met was trying to get hired for a crew position on the Bounty. Hope the captain is alright.
They should have sailed it to Quebec or something at the slightest hint of the hurricane.
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