The Summer Of Hate - Refugee Homes in Germany are burning - Polidicks

[url]http://www.trueten.de/archives/9419-Karte-der-Schande-Straftaten-gegen-Fluechtlinge-und-ihre-Unterkuenfte.html[/url] [img]http://i.imgur.com/Ogcak8e.png[/img] I am pretty sure most of you guys are not aware of this so this is why I do this kind of mixed thread. Recently we're having more and more "Muslim critic" people spewing their racist and biased bullshit on Facepunch. It reminds me of what I'm seeing in social media and political debate for quite some time now. I thought instead of empty phrases, crooked missinterpretations and fearmongering bullshit I could give you guys something to look at. [B]What you are seeing is a map of registered violent attacks and crimes directed towards refugees and refugee homes in 2015[/B] The list includes: - multiple cases of arson of refugee homes or designated soon-to-be refugee homes - attacks on "foreign looking" people, one case being an attack on a 12 year old child - smearing pig blood, entrails and a pigs head all over a refugee aplication home - throwing rocks at Red Cross helpers caring for sick refugees - grafiti of hate speech, destruction and more A German news outlet finally reporting on this shit: [url]http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/gewalt-gegen-fluechtlinge-in-diesen-orten-gab-es-uebergriffe-a-1044777.html[/url] I'm not saying Germany turned full retard but I want to show that the influx of hatespeech in inofficial(Facebook) channels as well as in Parties, media, reporting tendency and political directions of the two ruling parties ARE showing real world consequences. It empowers the xenophobic idiots because it gives them a false feeling of backup within society, the vocal minority in this case is unfortunately also the dense minority. Lots of times, also here on Facepunch I feel like it's the same few people spurting their xenophobic bullshit. And often there is not a lot of backlash. People seem to think "well let them talk". This is the result of letting them talk. At least it is here in Germany. Fortunately the surge of people willing to provide help here is huge. It's so huge, often authorities have to send helpers back home. I'm saying this because I don't want to leave with the impression that I'm just seeing the bad sides. No. But I feel like this kind of thing should get more attention outside of the country, after all we are the biggest contributer as well as the biggest profiteer of the Eu and thus have responsibility that is not soley historic anymore and I think our voting results as well as the cockyness of Merkel and Gabriel show that we sometimes need a reminder fromt he outside.

Over what period of time?

January 1st to 19th of July 2015, fixed, thanks at least two more have been happening since then and one in my hometown last weekend where someone shot at a Turkish Bar from a driving car

Maybe the government should make anyone who does that kind of shit wear a big nice swastika badge on their shirt. Mainly because in Germany you get arrested for wearing swastikas.

Holy shit that's some fucked up going on. [QUOTE]- multiple cases of arson of refugee homes or designated soon-to-be refugee homes - attacks on "foreign looking" people, one case being an attack on a 12 year old child - smearing pig blood, entrails and a pigs head all over a refugee aplication home - throwing rocks at Red Cross helpers caring for sick refugees - grafiti of hate speech, destruction and more[/QUOTE] Damn.

smearing pig blood is probably the cheapest muslim deterrent known to man.

In a way I'm not surprised. Just shows the growing Islamophobia that's growing in Europe.

[QUOTE=Aksi;48307069]smearing pig blood is probably the cheapest muslim deterrent known to man.[/QUOTE] Except eating it is the only thing forbidden for Muslims, this is a very very stupid phrase

[QUOTE=Killuah;48307350]Except eating it is the only thing forbidden for Muslims, this is a very very stupid phrase[/QUOTE] and only if it is intentionally eaten. if it's forced down your throat or something it doesn't matter

This is so fucked up. Germany is usually better at dealing with this than other European nations because of its Nazi past...

Yeah but now we're leeching the EU dry and just forced a sovereign nation to demontage themselves a few years after we forced them to buy tanks and weapons in exchange for new credits even after we knew that their economy was shit.

[QUOTE=elitehakor;48307489]and only if it is intentionally eaten. if it's forced down your throat or something it doesn't matter[/QUOTE] You can actually even eat it if you would be starving otherwise and it's last resort. It's really not that much of a big deal.

[QUOTE=Bat-shit;48306562]Over what period of time?[/QUOTE] 1933-1945

we're still quite a racist country, it never went away after what Hitler did, you will see this if you venture outside of Berlin

[QUOTE=Killuah;48306542]People seem to think "well let them talk". This is the result of letting them talk. [/QUOTE] Dont quite get the point youre trying to make. Censoring public discussion forums/forbidding discussion that has a chance of going sour (anti islamic) would make this problem go away? I highly doubt that.

[QUOTE=Antlerp;48309170]we're still quite a racist country, it never went away after what Hitler did, you will see this if you venture outside of Berlin[/QUOTE] Almost every nation and country has nationalistic people who often racist. Lets be honest here, nobody likes their homelands being flooded with immigrants or masses of refugees. A lot of people see them as leaches, trouble makers and overall make conditions worse. Then you add the wars and all the media attention of Muslim. You got a breeding ground of hate and discontent. Xenophobia has been on the rise for a while now all over the world, i don't see it going away any times soon. The media does not help too as i said, they often air a lot of media about Muslims attacking locals for religion reasons and so forth. You honestly can't expect to bring in masses of people who don't really know the land or the culture and expect everyone to get along. Its still sad and obviously not right, but every country with this problem suffers the same issues.

[QUOTE=meek;48309330]Dont quite get the point youre trying to make. Censoring public discussion forums/forbidding discussion that has a chance of going sour (anti islamic) would make this problem go away? I highly doubt that.[/QUOTE] I'm not suggesting censorship, it's just that a lot of people seem to think along the lines "nah nobody listens to those idiots" and thus are very passive about it despite rooting for the good thing. People need to speak up against the stupid media reporting or at least stop buying the damn tabloids. Because they overlook that there ARE people listening to the idiots: the other idiots. As I said up there[quote]It empowers the xenophobic idiots because it gives them a false feeling of backup within society, the vocal minority in this case is unfortunately also the dense minority. [/quote]

[QUOTE=MR-X;48309355]Almost every nation and country has nationalistic people who often racist. Lets be honest here, nobody likes their homelands being flooded with immigrants or masses of refugees. A lot of people see them as leaches, trouble makers and overall make conditions worse. Then you add the wars and all the media attention of Muslim. You got a breeding ground of hate and discontent. Xenophobia has been on the rise for a while now all over the world, i don't see it going away any times soon. The media does not help too as i said, they often air a lot of media about Muslims attacking locals for religion reasons and so forth. [/QUOTE] Up to here I agree. [QUOTE]You honestly can't expect to bring in masses of people who don't really know the land or the culture and expect everyone to get along. Its still sad and obviously not right, but every country with this problem suffers the same issues.[/QUOTE] Not quite. Last time I checked xenophobia was higher in Germany in regions that had [I]less[/I] immigrants, not more. (I'm not sure about the causality, but it seems to point to a low significance of local cultural issues.) I suspect much of this is because of mis- or lacking information, and nationalist sentiments bubbling up more unhindered also because of the recent anti-European climate here due to the crisis in Greece and the related media coverage from both countries. I don't really browse much German-language websites but it seems it's getting extremely nasty / somewhat scary online too at the moment (at least according to Sascha Lobo, who, while pretty noticeably left, is generally reliable as far as I know. He said it (iirc) like that in a TV discussion, but here's his [URL="http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/fluechtlingshetze-in-sozialen-medien-die-lobo-kolumne-a-1044754.html"]S.P.O.N. article[/URL] [URL="https://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fnetzwelt%2Fnetzpolitik%2Ffluechtlingshetze-in-sozialen-medien-die-lobo-kolumne-a-1044754.html&edit-text=&act=url"]about it[/URL] (The automatic translation is as usual not good, but scrutable.) I noticed a little of it myself though). That said, this is going to be interesting and it's certainly true there is going to be friction. (There are also definitely some issues with Islamic radicalism here, but all of the cases I've heard about so far were around converts and/or migrants and not refugees. Much of the refugee-hate likely stems from convolution of those groups.) [editline]28th July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Killuah;48309641]I'm not suggesting censorship, it's just that a lot of people seem to think along the lines "nah nobody listens to those idiots" and thus are very passive about it despite rooting for the good thing. People need to speak up against the stupid media reporting or at least stop buying the damn tabloids. Because they overlook that there ARE people listening to the idiots: the other idiots. As I said up there [quote]It empowers the xenophobic idiots because it gives them a false feeling of backup within society, the vocal minority in this case is unfortunately also the dense minority.[/quote][/QUOTE] This about sums it up. Unfortunately racists tend to be [B]a lot[/B] more vocal than moderates. It's good that a few (prominent) people have started to speak about it more explicitly and encourage others to stand against this stuff, but it's definitely not enough. I'm not going to place any bets on people to stop reading Bild though. I can wish for it but it's just not going to happen :disappoint:

Not when even the damn Spiegel gets worse and worse with each issue. [editline]28th July 2015[/editline] 30 people throwing stones at a refugee home in Dresden last Sunday