[url=http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/160774,14-million-Polish-children-living-in-poverty]thenews.pl[/url]
03.02.2014 09:04
Official data reveals that 1.4 million Polish children are living in poverty, with kids from large families and small towns being the hardest hit.
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'Living conditions for families in Poland,' a study by the Central Statistical Office (GUS), found that the problem is particularly serious with families of three or more children.
Some 10 percent of families of three children are living below the minimum subsistence level, and 26.6 percent of families of four children and more are below the poverty line.
“Poverty is especially acute in small towns,” Professor Katarzyna Duczkowska-Malysz told the [I]Rzeczpospolita[/I] daily.
“Unlike in the countryside, where there's the opportunity to take advantage of what nature offers, such as one's own farm products, in small towns one has to buy everything.”
According to GUS, over half a million Polish children are unable to eat a meal containing meat, fish or poultry (or a nutritious vegetarian equivalent) even once every two days, because their parents cannot afford it.
How is this funny?
[QUOTE=Svinnik;43775593]How is this funny?[/QUOTE]
Since i am assuming that people are thinking of poland in the stereotypical sense rather than the fact that half a million people are starving.
[QUOTE]According to GUS, over half a million Polish children are unable to eat a meal containing meat, fish or poultry (or a nutritious vegetarian equivalent) even once every two days, because their parents cannot afford it.[/QUOTE]
Honestly that's so terrible, and Poland is such a neat country. It's sad that so many children go without stuff most of us take for granted.
not polish but this documentary shows how terrible things get
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGbjSKURMwo[/media]
Oh come the fuck on, posting a vid from 2001? So much shit changed since then
Let's fix poverty in Europe before Africa.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;43776539]Oh come the fuck on, posting a vid from 2001? So much shit changed since then[/QUOTE]
Children aren't living in train stations, sniffing glue, being tortured in the streets... I doubt this.
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;43776556]Let's fix poverty in Europe before Africa.[/QUOTE]
Seriously, if we can't even sort our own shit out...
[QUOTE=AK'z;43776563]Children aren't living in train stations, sniffing glue, being tortured in the streets... I doubt this.[/QUOTE]
yeah by today all the train stations crumbled and glue ran out
[QUOTE=Svinnik;43775593]How is this funny?[/QUOTE]
This is Facepunch. No matter what it is, depraved assholes [I]will[/I] find it funny.
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;43776556]Let's fix poverty in Europe before Africa.[/QUOTE]
I was called a racist after i suggested this in class.
Siema pl
[QUOTE=AK'z;43776563]Children aren't living in train stations, sniffing glue, being tortured in the streets... I doubt this.[/QUOTE]
Wow a brit thinking that Romania is still a shithole, what a surprise. It's been 13 years since then what the fuck do you think
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;43776556]Let's fix poverty in Europe before Africa.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ijyt;43776581]Seriously, if we can't even sort our own shit out...[/QUOTE]
We can work on both at once.
Due to diminishing returns and such, the money you pour into Africa can have FAR higher effect than if you poured the same amount into Poland.
For instance [URL="http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/11/26/barrymore.hunger/index.html"]this[/URL] suggests that to feed a kid in Africa for a day you need about $0.25. For that kind of money, you can get like, two carrots, in Poland.
This brings back some memories from last christmas.
I was minding my own business when there is a knock on the door around mid day.
It was about -27°c outside. When I open the door there is a guy in his late 20's.
He doesn't look like anyone from around here so I asked him what he wanted.
He just shook his head and gave me a note. From that I gathered that his name was Pawel and he had just been sackes from a construction company and had barely managed to pay his bills and buy a little food for christmas. The note also explained that he was selling wooden sculptures to afford some christmas presents for his two kids. I told him straight away that I wasn't interested in his sculptures, but I asked if he wanted to come in for some tea and warm himself.
We sat there drinking tea and and he explained to me (in very broken english) that he had been selling for 4 days and no one had bought from him. when Pawel was about to leave I stopped him in the doorway and gave him 20€. I said "It's not much, but nobody should be sad on christmas". He looked at me for a sec and I saw a tear forming in his eye. Then he hugged me and said (again with the broken english) Thank you friend. Not ever forget.
This christmas I found a wooden sculpture of some kind of saint on our patio.
There was a photo taped to it. On it was Pawel and his daughter and son.
The text o the back read "Thank you. Never forget".
Then I proceeded to cry.
Also for example literacy rate in Poland is already 99.7%. In Niger it's barely 30%. It sucks when you can't get [I]good[/I] education in Poland but you can still read and write which gives you massive advantages over Nigerian kid who can't even read as learning that is almost impossible without school and without being able to learn, you can't study on your own.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;43776628]Wow a brit thinking that Romania is still a shithole, what a surprise. It's been 13 years since then what the fuck do you think[/QUOTE]
did i say it was a shithole? relax
I'm just doubtful it's all been turned around, and since there was an update that some of the children in the documentary are still homeless and are now on heroin, I'm not going to assume it's all fine and dandy in the world. No need to take offense....
damn, I had no idea that was that big of a problem. There's a hell of a disparity between living in the city and the countryside 'round here, but I never thought it went that far
[QUOTE=slayer64;43776585]This is Facepunch. No matter what it is, depraved assholes [I]will[/I] find it funny.[/QUOTE]
they don't find the news funny they find your reaction funny
[QUOTE=AK'z;43776517]not polish but this documentary shows how terrible things get
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This shit is horrible. To think you managed to born into a proper family in the middle class rather then this cesspit of shit that happened that time back in Romania is just astonishing. Thinking of what kind of potential even some people hold as for advancing their current status to solve their poverty is just strange too.
I could start a kickstarter for a game project I've been working on that could easily change my life for the better, who knows. Depression is a bitch anyway. For sure I can tell, children should never be put out to such type of poverty, ever.
[QUOTE=ionuttzu;43776628]Wow a brit thinking that Romania is still a shithole, what a surprise. It's been 13 years since then what the fuck do you think[/QUOTE]
It isn't by comparison? Considering how quickly its been improving I'm sure its image might change someday.
[QUOTE=Radley;43776655]This brings back some memories from last christmas.
I was minding my own business when there is a knock on the door around mid day.
It was about -27°c outside. When I open the door there is a guy in his late 20's.
He doesn't look like anyone from around here so I asked him what he wanted.
He just shook his head and gave me a note. From that I gathered that his name was Pawel and he had just been sackes from a construction company and had barely managed to pay his bills and buy a little food for christmas. The note also explained that he was selling wooden sculptures to afford some christmas presents for his two kids. I told him straight away that I wasn't interested in his sculptures, but I asked if he wanted to come in for some tea and warm himself.
We sat there drinking tea and and he explained to me (in very broken english) that he had been selling for 4 days and no one had bought from him. when Pawel was about to leave I stopped him in the doorway and gave him 20€. I said "It's not much, but nobody should be sad on christmas". He looked at me for a sec and I saw a tear forming in his eye. Then he hugged me and said (again with the broken english) Thank you friend. Not ever forget.
This christmas I found a wooden sculpture of some kind of saint on our patio.
There was a photo taped to it. On it was Pawel and his daughter and son.
The text o the back read "Thank you. Never forget".
Then I proceeded to cry.[/QUOTE]
And they say Finns are cold and heartless, brought a tear to my eye. You're a good man.
[QUOTE=Radley;43776655]This brings back some memories from last christmas.
I was minding my own business when there is a knock on the door around mid day.
It was about -27°c outside. When I open the door there is a guy in his late 20's.
He doesn't look like anyone from around here so I asked him what he wanted.
He just shook his head and gave me a note. From that I gathered that his name was Pawel and he had just been sackes from a construction company and had barely managed to pay his bills and buy a little food for christmas. The note also explained that he was selling wooden sculptures to afford some christmas presents for his two kids. I told him straight away that I wasn't interested in his sculptures, but I asked if he wanted to come in for some tea and warm himself.
We sat there drinking tea and and he explained to me (in very broken english) that he had been selling for 4 days and no one had bought from him. when Pawel was about to leave I stopped him in the doorway and gave him 20€. I said "It's not much, but nobody should be sad on christmas". He looked at me for a sec and I saw a tear forming in his eye. Then he hugged me and said (again with the broken english) Thank you friend. Not ever forget.
This christmas I found a wooden sculpture of some kind of saint on our patio.
There was a photo taped to it. On it was Pawel and his daughter and son.
The text o the back read "Thank you. Never forget".
Then I proceeded to cry.[/QUOTE]
People like Pawel that usually show up at my door sell self-painted paintings. Though these paintings magically show up in first results when the theme of the picture is written in Google.
They're just printed with some more expensive, better printer to make them look like they're hand-painted.
And they tend to cost quite a bit. Ranging from 40-100€ per piece. And usually those who sell them are young girls in a not-poor dress with the usual
"I'm a poor student from *poor country* and sell *merchandise* to pay for my education."
If you know a thing or two about Finlands education and school, you can already see a couple of things wrong there.
Though I have given money and bought things from people who look like they're in dire need, but 99% of them are what I described above.
[QUOTE=AK'z;43776673]did i say it was a shithole? relax
I'm just doubtful it's all been turned around, and since there was an update that some of the children in the documentary are still homeless and are now on heroin, I'm not going to assume it's all fine and dandy in the world. No need to take offense....[/QUOTE]
Yes, you practically did.
You really need to have lived here to see how much the Balkans have changed in a decade. Sure, we're still the worst and shittiest part of the EU, but progress has been made.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;43776633]We can work on both at once.
Due to diminishing returns and such, the money you pour into Africa can have FAR higher effect than if you poured the same amount into Poland.
For instance [URL="http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/africa/11/26/barrymore.hunger/index.html"]this[/URL] suggests that to feed a kid in Africa for a day you need about $0.25. For that kind of money, you can get like, two carrots, in Poland.[/QUOTE]
You don't reduce poverty by feeding people though, but by developing infrastructure and giving incentives for self-improvement. In that regard there's a whole lot more work to be done and money needed to be spent in Africa rather than Poland.
I agree we don't need to focus on only one country at a time, but I think we should prioritize improvements in Europe first rather than spreading such resources too thin.
I wish we had a violent revolution, just like Ukraine is having now.
[QUOTE=Sword and Paint;43776556]Let's fix poverty in Europe before Africa.[/QUOTE]
How about we just fix poverty?
[QUOTE=Stopper;43782975]Yes, you practically did.
You really need to have lived here to see how much the Balkans have changed in a decade. Sure, we're still the worst and shittiest part of the EU, but progress has been made.[/QUOTE]
I posted a documentary, I didn't call anything a shithole.
All I'm saying is I doubt the issue is completely gone.
Dang, should have invested in Eastern Poland
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