• Rich CEO Tells 'Daily Show' The 'Mentally Retarded' Are Maaaybe Worth $2 An Hour
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[url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/29/the-daily-show-minimum-wage_n_4688134.html[/url] [url]http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-january-28-2014/wage-against-the-machine[/url] The asshole in question [IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2584598345/f9hffjliy6bmdd7zzq7j.jpeg[/IMG] [QUOTE]There's a lot of good, funny stuff in the "Daily Show" segment above about the recent fast food protests, McDonald's as a welfare queen and more. But what we'd really like you to focus on is the following exchange (at around 4:15) between correspondent Samantha Bee and Peter Schiff, the extremely conservative CEO of Euro Pacific Capital, who FREAKING HATES the minimum wage: Schiff: "If we eliminated the minimum wage law then individuals would be free to accept jobs at whatever pay they're able to get." Bee: "Paint me a picture of a person whose work would be worth $2 an hour." Schiff: "You know somebody who might be? Maybe somebody who is, uh, you know, what's the politically correct word? Uh, you know, uh, for, uh, you know, mentally retarded?" Bee: [...] Schiff, later on: "I'm not going to say that we're all created equal... you're worth what you're worth."[/QUOTE] [sp]remember kids, CEOs are nice people.[/sp] also he was an economic advisor to the 2008 Ron Paul presidential campaign and ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. Senate in Connecticut in 2010. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Schiff[/url]
"You know somebody who might be? Maybe somebody who is, uh, you know, what's the politically correct word? Uh, you know, uh, for, uh, you know, mentally retarded?" Spoken with confidence.
[quote]remember kids, CEOs are nice people.[/quote] this is as dumb as the dude in the article
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;43716097]"You know somebody who might be? Maybe somebody who is, uh, you know, what's the politically correct word? Uh, you know, uh, for, uh, you know, mentally retarded?" Spoken with confidence.[/QUOTE] I want to know what he was originally going to say, if he considers "mentally retarded" to be the politically correct alternative. :v:
Why do rich CEO's always have such punch-able faces?
Bastards Honestly, they're so disconnected from reality, it makes me fucking enraged honestly. [quote]Schiff, later on: "I'm not going to say that we're all created equal... you're worth what you're worth."[/quote] I wouldn't say he is worth the millions he rakes in. Maybe cut him down a bit so it matches his "worth".
[QUOTE=Hat-Wearing Man;43716132]Why do rich CEO's always have such punch-able faces?[/QUOTE] Isn't every face technically punchable?
[quote]remember kids, CEOs are nice people.[/quote] Wow, what the man said is completely morally-reprehensible, but on the same hand, you can't paint such a wide sweeping generalization.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;43716122]I want to know what he was originally going to say, if he considers "mentally retarded" to be the politically correct alternative. :v:[/QUOTE] "Window-Lickers."
[QUOTE=Zambies!;43716148]Wow, what the man said is completely morally-reprehensible, but on the same hand, you can't paint such a wide sweeping generalization.[/QUOTE] I like this response better than insulting the OP.
[quote]Bee: "Paint me a picture of a person whose work would be worth $2 an hour."[/quote] Yeah, like there's a way to answer that without looking like a dick. This guy is right, people's worth in the workplace should be determined by their ability and output. Nobody should work full-time and have to live in poverty though.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;43716148]Wow, what the man said is completely morally-reprehensible, but on the same hand, you can't paint such a wide sweeping generalization.[/QUOTE] If we don't stand up for these Millionaires, who will? Like the entire corporate ladder is designed to reward sociopathy and cupidity.
What he said kind of makes sense... obviously not [b]all[/b] mentally retarded people cannot perform well at jobs and earn a very good wage, but being mentally retarded [b]can[/b] and [b]often does[/b] severely impact work performance. If work is shoddy, work is shoddy. It doesn't MATTER who does the work, it's not WORTH AS MUCH if it's not good work.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43716545]If we don't stand up for these Millionaires, who will? Like the entire corporate ladder is designed to reward sociopathy and cupidity.[/QUOTE] I agree, it's the accusation that all CEOs are not nice or do not look out for their workers I take question to.
[QUOTE=Mitsudigi;43716489]Yeah, like there's a way to answer that without looking like a dick. This guy is right, people's worth in the workplace should be determined by their ability and output. Nobody should work full-time and have to live in poverty though.[/QUOTE] You could say "no one's work is worth that little" and you wouldn't sound like a dick As to your next two statements, choose one.
[QUOTE=Mitsudigi;43716489]Yeah, like there's a way to answer that without looking like a dick. [/QUOTE] Of course there is.
My brother is severely mentally delayed. He would love to work at a normal job for $2/hr. You people don't get it. Working is the one thing many people with severe mental problems can get real life satisfaction out of, and not because of the money they make. The problem is that businesses aren't allowed to pay him less than $8... So guess what? He doesn't get to work at all. (not to mention the legal risks involved) People with real disabilities that prevent them from making enough money to live on their own is one of the few places I fully support strong government intervention, but getting a check in the mail doesn't provide the purpose for someone that having a real job does.
I remember seeing a news article on the local news in Vancouver with a good story. There's a young mid 20 somethings highly developmently disabled and social disabled guy who has started his own business with his fathers help. He builds Ikea furniture for people and he does it very, very well, people in the area are happy to employ the guy because he works hard and doesn't charge a shit ton for his services and no one really wants to build ikea furniture.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43716146]Isn't every face technically punchable?[/QUOTE] What an aggressive statement. What kind of site do you think this is?
[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43717164]I remember seeing a news article on the local news in Vancouver with a good story. There's a young mid 20 somethings highly developmently disabled and social disabled guy who has started his own business with his fathers help. He builds Ikea furniture for people and he does it very, very well, people in the area are happy to employ the guy because he works hard and doesn't charge a shit ton for his services and no one really wants to build ikea furniture.[/QUOTE] If you think that's representative of the severely mentally disabled community then you haven't had much, if any experience with them. I would love to see you go into a moderate to severe (technical name) special ed class in any high school and try to get them to put together furniture without complete and constant supervision (just as a hint: none of them are able to read). We're talking about real people here who want nothing more than to have a real meaningful life and forcing them out of the workplace by enforcing unrealistic wages isn't the way to do it.
[QUOTE=sgman91;43717245]If you think that's representative of the severely mentally disabled community then you haven't had much, if any experience with them. I would love to see you go into a moderate to severe (technical name) special ed class in any high school and try to get them to put together furniture without complete and constant supervision (just as a hint: none of them are able to read). We're talking about real people here who want nothing more than to have a real meaningful life and forcing them out of the workplace by enforcing unrealistic wages isn't the way to do it.[/QUOTE] Why not let your brother volunteer at charities, if wages are the problem?
[QUOTE=sgman91;43717245]If you think that's representative of the severely mentally disabled community then you haven't had much, if any experience with them. I would love to see you go into a moderate to severe (technical name) special ed class in any high school and try to get them to put together furniture without complete and constant supervision (just as a hint: none of them are able to read). We're talking about real people here who want nothing more than to have a real meaningful life and forcing them out of the workplace by enforcing unrealistic wages isn't the way to do it.[/QUOTE] I don't know why you wrote this to be standoffish towards me, but no that's not what I think. I'd like more people to have more options at some form of fulfillment, monetarily and just satisfaction wise.
[QUOTE=BlueChihuahua;43717327]Why not let your brother volunteer at charities, if wages are the problem?[/QUOTE] Volunteering isn't volunteering when it isn't what you want to do. He wants to work, specifically he would love to work at Home Depot (he loves the idea of upgrading things in the house) and they are willing except for the legal and wage barriers. To him, working a full day and earning something for himself gives him a source of pride. You have to imagine putting yourself in a situation where you have almost never been able to provide anything for yourself. You can't cook food (past the most simple things), you can't read, you can't count money, etc., but what you can do is work. You can clean, you can stack, you can retrieve carts from the parking lot. He doesn't look at these things as tedium. He looks at them as a way to finally do something independently. [editline]29th January 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=HumanAbyss;43717329]I don't know why you wrote this to be standoffish towards me, but no that's not what I think. I'd like more people to have more options at some form of fulfillment, monetarily and just satisfaction wise.[/QUOTE] It seemed like you were insinuating that your anecdote is applicable to a lot of the mentally disabled community and the simple fact is that it isn't. It brings about the incorrect impression that many of the severely mentally can make their work worth at least the normal minimum wage, when the only thing that impression will do is make it impossible for them to actually work.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;43716146]Isn't every face technically punchable?[/QUOTE] Some faces exhibit characteristics that make them more punchable than others though. Like someone with a shit-eating grin and a delicate looking nose for example.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;43716545]If we don't stand up for these Millionaires, who will? Like the entire corporate ladder is designed to reward sociopathy and cupidity.[/QUOTE] nobody designed it. It's just human nature. A sociopath is more likely to put themselves ahead of others at other's expense.
[QUOTE=sgman91;43717398] It seemed like you were insinuating that your anecdote is applicable to a lot of the mentally disabled community and the simple fact is that it isn't. It brings about the incorrect impression that many of the severely mentally can make their work worth at least the normal minimum wage, when the only thing that impression will do is make it impossible for them to actually work.[/QUOTE] It was in no way doing that. I was just stating a case I know of that I found to be inspirational. The guy makes nearly 25,000$ a year at this point doing what he does and he is good at it. He has found a source of income and satisfaction. I would absolutely love for this to be more common but I know this is a rare case.
[QUOTE=geel9;43716621]What he said kind of makes sense... obviously not [B]all[/B] mentally retarded people cannot perform well at jobs and earn a very good wage, but being mentally retarded [B]can[/B] and [B]often does[/B] severely impact work performance. If work is shoddy, work is shoddy. It doesn't MATTER who does the work, it's not WORTH AS MUCH if it's not good work.[/QUOTE] A person shouldn't have to live in poverty or suffer more than anyone else because they have a handicap.
[QUOTE=Mitsudigi;43716489]Yeah, like there's a way to answer that without looking like a dick.[/QUOTE] Yep, there is. Not answering. Or saying something along the lines of 'no one is worth 2$ an hour.' The thing about the Daily Show correspondents is that they are masters at a. letting people talk and talk and talk and spew bullshit without noticing and b. asking questions that trap bad people that don't notice it, all because they don't expect it from a comedy show.
Oh come on, it took me two seconds to think of a polite term such as "Mentally disadvantaged". Not great, but it comes off a lot better than saying "Erm, politically correct term please?" and "retarded".
[QUOTE=Rubs10;43719398]A person shouldn't have to live in poverty or suffer more than anyone else because they have a handicap.[/QUOTE] That doesn't mean their work is inherently worth more...
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