• Trump closes companies tied to Saudi Arabia
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[quote]WASHINGTON (AP) — President-elect Donald Trump shut down some of his companies in the days after the election, including four that appeared connected to a possible Saudi Arabia business venture, according to corporate registrations in Delaware. News of the move comes days before Trump was expected to describe changes he is making to his businesses to avoid potential conflicts of interest as the U.S. president. The Trump Organization's general counsel, Alan Garten, described shutting down the four companies as routine "housecleaning," and said there was no existing Trump business venture in Saudi Arabia. The four Saudi-related companies were among at least nine companies that Trump filed paperwork to dissolve or cancel since the election.[/quote] [url]http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2016-12-09-US--Trump-Foreign%20Companies/id-78be39d307dd4342bf4ec6109b05f240[/url]
I feel like the fact that he didn't do this sooner suggests he didn't actually expect to win.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51507042]I feel like the fact that he didn't do this sooner suggests he didn't actually expect to win.[/QUOTE] Or maybe he didn't want to jump the gun like his rival did. Remember the Fireworks Hillery had to cancel?
[QUOTE=Glaber;51507253]Or maybe he didn't want to jump the gun like his rival did. Remember the Fireworks Hillery had to cancel?[/QUOTE] or the massive glass conference center.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51507042]I feel like the fact that he didn't do this sooner suggests he didn't actually expect to win.[/QUOTE] "I...won? Now I have to do all that bullshit I was talking about? Fuuuuuuuck"
[QUOTE=Boilrig;51507294]or the massive glass conference center.[/QUOTE] or the 1.2 billion she spent on her campaign :v: [url]http://nypost.com/2016/12/09/hillary-clintons-losing-campaign-cost-a-record-1-2b/[/url]
[QUOTE=EliteGuy;51508954]or the 1.2 billion she spent on her campaign :v: [url]http://nypost.com/2016/12/09/hillary-clintons-losing-campaign-cost-a-record-1-2b/[/url][/QUOTE] It really highlights how genuinely unlikable a nominee is when after the amount of bloated backing she got while facing someone who isn't even a politician she STILL manages to lose
[QUOTE=Punchy;51510079]It really highlights how genuinely unlikable a nominee is when after the amount of bloated backing she got while facing someone who isn't even a politician she STILL manages to lose[/QUOTE] that's because people realized that celebrity endorsements are horse shit.
[QUOTE=Pops;51510613]that's because people realized that celebrity endorsements are horse shit.[/QUOTE] So they skipped the middleman and elected a celebrity.
[QUOTE=plunger435;51510627]So they skipped the middleman and elected a celebrity.[/QUOTE] i didn't say they were smart, just that they recognized one thing was stupid.
[QUOTE=plunger435;51510627]So they skipped the middleman and elected a celebrity.[/QUOTE] Trump won because he wasn't a politician. That was a selling point for a lot of people.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;51510715]Trump won because he wasn't a politician. That was a selling point for a lot of people.[/QUOTE] The only reason that was a selling point in the first place is because the American public is tired of soulless politicians like HRC. Someone who actually believes in their own ideals and wants to actually help the American public like Sanders would've won handily against a demagogue like Trump. At least, that's what help me sleeps at night.
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;51511121]The only reason that was a selling point in the first place is because the American public is tired of soulless politicians like HRC. Someone who actually believes in their own ideals and wants to actually help the American public like Sanders would've won handily against a demagogue like Trump. At least, that's what help me sleeps at night.[/QUOTE] So instead they got a soulless businessman. So instead of being in the pocket of corporations, he [I]is[/I] the corporation. They just cut out the middleman.
Trump won because he managed to convince enough people that he gave a shit about them in three states.
There's an interesting article about how his campaign used targeted (social media and also offline) advertising instead of traditional media, but [URL="https://www.dasmagazin.ch/2016/12/03/ich-habe-nur-gezeigt-dass-es-die-bombe-gibt/"]it's in German[/URL][URL="https://archive.is/KMPrC"].[/URL] Here's [URL="https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dasmagazin.ch%2F2016%2F12%2F03%2Fich-habe-nur-gezeigt-dass-es-die-bombe-gibt%2F&edit-text=&act=url"]a mediocre automatic translation[/URL][URL="https://archive.is/k9u2g"].[/URL] It's written a bit dramatically, but the sources check out and it explains a lot of what's been going on. That's not to say Punchy isn't right about clinton though.
She won the popular vote by nearly 3 million people at last count so I don't really buy the story that she was wholly unlikable.
[QUOTE=Wealth + Taste;51511121]The only reason that was a selling point in the first place is because the American public is tired of soulless politicians like HRC. Someone who actually believes in their own ideals and wants to actually help the American public like Sanders would've won handily against a demagogue like Trump. At least, that's what help me sleeps at night.[/QUOTE] I honestly wish she hadn't run. Like if she had a stroke or a heart attack or some shit a year or two ago American politics would be in a much better state right now.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51512780]She won the popular vote by nearly 3 million people at last count so i don't really buy the story that she was wholly unlikable.[/QUOTE] Considering she was up against a guy so vile that his own party effectively denounced him, I don't think the fact that Clinton got more popular votes discounts the assessment of her as wholly unlikable. A lot of people voted for her solely to defeat Trump.
[QUOTE=catbarf;51512905]Considering she was up against a guy so vile that his own party effectively denounced him, I don't think the fact that Clinton got more popular votes discounts the assessment of her as wholly unlikable. A lot of people voted for her solely to defeat Trump.[/QUOTE] The argument also applies the other way around; a lot of people voted Trump to solely defeat Clinton. Needless to say that's not how any democracy should work, but that's what happened in the States this year... :/
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51512914]The argument also applies the other way around; a lot of people voted Trump to solely defeat Clinton. Needless to say that's not how any democracy should work, but that's what happened in the States all of the years... :/[/QUOTE] ftfy Two Party system be damned.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51511450]Trump won because he managed to convince enough people that he gave a shit about them in three states.[/QUOTE] ten states, actually.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;51511450]Trump won because he managed to convince enough people that he gave a shit about them in three states.[/QUOTE] I hate Trump as much as anyone else, but let's stop pretending that only votes in three states mattered. The reason they mattered is because most people had decided their vote months before so the outcome of most states was already known. If you didn't vote because you thought your state was "safe" you're a moron. Look at Virginia. No one thought that'd be a close state.
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