Why do some people disapprove of how Israel is handling the Gaza Strip terrorist problem?
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The Gaza Strip/Palestinian terrorists are terrorists and deserve to die, that's my take, why do some people feel as though Israel should negotiate with the terrorists and give in to their demands?
Ugh
2/10 troll would recommend more passive approach
er...
[QUOTE=BurnBlackJay;26119227]Ugh[/QUOTE]
because it's shit
and of those palestinians, who asked for the israelis to come in with their big grants from the western world and build all over them?
Because the way they're going about it doesn't comply with the way western nations would like to resolve it. Besides Isreal could get away with murder (which they're pretty much doing already) and they wouldn't have any reprecussions as the US are using them to gain influence in the Middle East. I'm neither Pro nor Anti Isreali at the moment since i realise both sides case's have their merits.
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shake em up shake em up shake em up
shake em
[QUOTE=BurnBlackJay;26119227]Ugh
2/10 troll would recommend more passive approach[/QUOTE]
It's not a troll. It's just violetta
[QUOTE=pointyface;26119505]It's not a troll. It's just violetta[/QUOTE]
Thanks, everyone here should know that I'm very opinionated by now.
[QUOTE=Violetta;26119521]Thanks, everyone here should know that I'm very opinionated by now.[/QUOTE]
No, you just make stupid threads
Because colonialism is evil. And the Zionists acquired the land from the British as a result of Colonialism. Unless you have enough evidence that proves that Palestinieans allowed the Zionists to take over their land. The "Israelites" are Jewish Europeans. Saying that a piece of land belongs to you and you have the right to take it away by any means is a pretty shit reason to exist, considering that Palestineans(both Christians & muslim) have been living their since the beginning. They are the descendants of who had lived their, from the Phoenicians, to the Canaanites to the Arabs. Palestineans are violent, no doubt, but Israel treat them worse than the British treated the blacks during apartheid. And really, it makes perfect logical sense, because when the Palestineans formed the militant PLO, they were finally given some recognition. Isreal deprives them of electricity, trade, water,destroy their homes and kill thousands of them after some idiot shoots a bottle rocket that injures 2 or three Israelites. That is why a huge majority of intellectuals(even Ghandi) opposed Israel.
Israel treats the Palestians like inhumane shit, no doubt. But I don't think the country would be better with Palestinieans in charge.
[QUOTE=cheezey;26119871]Israel treats the Palestians like inhumane shit, no doubt. But I don't think the country would be better with Palestinieans in charge.[/QUOTE]
It would be worse. Can't they just get along?
[QUOTE=Violetta;26119926]It would be worse. Can't they just get along?[/QUOTE]They could get along, but Israel has no intention of being equal with the Palestinians
[QUOTE=Firerain;26119483]shake em up shake em up shake em up
shake em[/QUOTE]
today was a good day
[QUOTE=Violetta;26119926]It would be worse. Can't they just get along?[/QUOTE]
When someone comes over to your house, beats the living shit out of you, and rape your family, it very difficult to forgive them when they offer a truce. You need some financial payback. Israel needs to do that by getting rid of its settlements.
It's called a newspaper. Go pick one up.
[QUOTE=Shustriy;26120073]They could get along, but Israel has no intention of being equal with the Palestinians[/QUOTE]
Palestinians have no interest in being equal with the Israelis.
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
"All Jews must die"
it doesn't help that their religions are completely 100% incompatible. which is weird because they're based on the same story...
Because they're using illegal weapons, violating people's human rights and occasionally deliberately killing civilians
Not the Palestinians fault that the Jews thought "durr Palestine is teh promised land, we'll take it" and the west sat back and let it happen.
[editline]17th November 2010[/editline]
but its no excuse for the inhumane acts of terrorism mind you
she said hey bossa nova gotta keep on workin for this aint no time to quit
she said go bossa nova baby keep on dancin
im about to have myself a fit
[QUOTE=Firerain;26124075]she said hey bossa nova gotta keep on workin for this aint no time to quit
she said go bossa nova baby keep on dancin
im about to have myself a fit[/QUOTE]
Finally an answer of relevance.
Because killing turkish aid workers is what the cool kids do.
Instead of pounding paragraph after paragraph to explain to you, (which I've partly done in ITN to you) this would be my summarization:
[QUOTE=Mr. Gestapo;26123847]Because they're using illegal weapons, violating people's human rights and occasionally deliberately killing civilians[/QUOTE]
Because a terrorist is kinda just fighting for what they believe in (I dont think they are right of course) and whnen you look at it from a history stand point sometimes the terrorists are the good guys (not saying that they are right again) also killing them doesnt solve anything
[QUOTE=Nahyan;26119604]Because colonialism is evil. And the Zionists acquired the land from the British as a result of Colonialism. Unless you have enough evidence that proves that Palestinieans allowed the Zionists to take over their land. The "Israelites" are Jewish Europeans. Saying that a piece of land belongs to you and you have the right to take it away by any means is a pretty shit reason to exist, considering that Palestineans(both Christians & muslim) have been living their since the beginning. They are the descendants of who had lived their, from the Phoenicians, to the Canaanites to the Arabs. Palestineans are violent, no doubt, but Israel treat them worse than the British treated the blacks during apartheid. And really, it makes perfect logical sense, because when the Palestineans formed the militant PLO, they were finally given some recognition. Isreal deprives them of electricity, trade, water,destroy their homes and kill thousands of them after some idiot shoots a bottle rocket that injures 2 or three Israelites. That is why a huge majority of intellectuals(even Ghandi) opposed Israel.[/QUOTE]
Umm, you do realize that the Jews BOUGHT the lands, right? The UN gave them 53% but about 9% of them they bought from the Arabs, and the rest is the Negev desert in the south, more than half of Israel which back then nobody lived in except for a few Zionists who settled the land and Bedouins who didn't care at all. Then the Arabs declared war on Israel as it declared independence, and in that war Israel expanded its borders up to what's known as the 1949 borders, the international recognized borders of Israel which are fully legally under Israeli control.
The Palestinians didn't get recognition once they formed the PLO, they gained some authority only after they stopped the first Intifada, and they would have gotten much more had certain events not occurred like Rabin's assassination by an ultra-orthodox Israeli Jew and the continuation of terror attacks against Israel.
You are also forgetting that Israel is the sole provider of electricity for the Gaza Strip, and you claimed that it deprives them of that which is absolute bullshit. They don't deprive water but they do limit trade as Hamas wants to get better rockets so they could actually do damage, unlike the bottle rockets they make in their backyards.
You are also forgetting that the majority of the "Palestinians" moved there by the end of the 19th century, and didn't live there for eons as you described, because the place was a total dump up until the Zionists came and worked the land.
If anyone doubts anything regarding the history you can read it all here and in wiki too: [url]http://www.middleeastpiece.com/[/url]
For the Gaza thing such as providing electricity you can also read up on wikipedia and other sources, don't let bullshitters like this guy and starpluck fill your mind with nonsense.
Not sure it's relevant but i hear Iran has been mass producing gas chambers. hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I also forgot to add, that the Arabs in 1947 wouldn't have accepted a Jewish state even if the Jews only got the 8% they bought from them. The Arabs opposed the creation of a Jewish state altogether, they wouldn't have given them a grain of sand. Throughout the years the Arabs and the Jews were offered several proposals as to how their future states or state will be formed, the Arabs rejected them all because all either included a small Jewish state or the Jews having some authority, for example one of the proposals was creating one state for both people, where there will be a governmental council of some sort manned by 11 people - 9 of them Arab and 2 Jewish, even though the ratio for Jews:Arabs was much more than 2:9 in Palestine, and the fact that even if it was, the Jews would actually have no authority as it would just take 3 Arabs to oppose any proposition made by the Jews in the council.
But in 1947 the UN decided to step in and came up with 3 partition plans, the first two were rejected by both the Jews and the Arabs, and the third was accepted only by the Jews and also gave them the right to create their own country even if the Arabs didn't.
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