With the complete deletion of LA, it won't be long before kids are flooding GD with their girl problems. Hopefully this thread stays on the first page and is popular enough to the point where people will post their problems here instead of making new threads about it.
Hardly even know where to start, since I'm still kind of shocked by the loss of my pride and joy.
[B][U]Basic advice that will solve 90 percent of the problems kids have.[/U][/B]
[I]Like a girl?[/I]
Ask her out.
It's that simple. If you are interested in a girl, ask her out on a date. Don't write her a letter. Don't confess your undying love for her. Don't sit there and stare at her all day, hoping for her to approach you first. Just fucking ask her out.
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[I]How do I ask a girl out?[/I]
"Hey, want to go out with me to [activity here] on [day here]?"
Once again, it's that simple. Don't throw in that you've always have a crush on her. Don't tell her you masturbate to her facebook pictures. Just spit that line (or a modified version of it) and that's it. One of the key things to keep in mind is the words [B]go out.[/B] There is a huge difference between [B]go out[/B] and [B]hang out[/B], DO NOT say [B]hang out.[/B] When you ask a girl to hang out, there is a high probability that she will assume it is a "just friends" kind of endeavor.
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[I]She said she's busy/has a wedding to go to/some other thing to do, what do?[/I]
If a girl gives you an excuse after you ask her out and [B]does not offer an alternative day to go[/B], that is her way of saying no.
Bottom line. It doesn't matter how believable her excuse is, if she really wants to say yes to your offer, she will suggest an alternative date. If she doesn't suggest an alternative, either she is making up an excuse to not go with you or actually has something to do and is using that to deflect you away. Girls are rarely completely straightforward, they won't come out and say "No," unless you ask them out in an insulting/annoying/abrasive way.
Examples:
"Hey, want to go out with me to the movies on Saturday?"
"Ummm, I have a wedding to go to then. Maybe another time. Sorry."
[B]That means no. Don't ask her again the next week. Don't even bring it up. Let it go.[/B]
"Hey, want to go out with me to the movies on Saturday?"
"Ummm, I have a wedding to go to then but I'm free next weekend, would that be okay?"
[B]That means that she is actually busy but wants to go out with you. Ka-ching.[/B]
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[I]But Maverick, shouldn't I get to be good friends with a girl before I ask her out?[/I]
No.
I'm not saying it is impossible to enter a relationship with a girl you're friends with, but the better you know the girl as a friend, the harder it will be to initiate a relationship with her. The reason for this is that every moment you spend with her as a friend, she isn't filing under "romantic interest" in her brain, she's filing it under "fun shit I did with friends." If you wait too long and get really close to her as a friend, she simply won't see you as a possible romantic interest at all. While you're not dead in the water (the friend zone [B]does not exist[/B]), it is difficult to pull yourself out of this situation. Also, when you get turned down by a girl you don't really know, it doesn't hurt bad at all. If you pour a lot of time and effort "crushing" on a girl like a retard, of course it's going to devastate you when she rejects you.
It's best to start a relationship as a relationship from the ground up. When you ask a girl out on a date, you're not asking her to be your girlfriend, you're asking her on a single date. If the date goes well, you go out on another one, and another, until it eventually forms itself into an official relationship. Relationships formed like that are no more/less successful than ones formed by people who are good friends first.
For example, you can take a mansion and convert it into a hospital with a lot of elbow grease and time. It'll be tough to do so, but it's possible, and a hospital formed by such a conversion would do just fine. However, it would be easier to just construct a new building with intentions of it being a hospital from day one. That way, the entire thing can be built with that purpose in mind, making it extremely efficient when it is completed.
Same with relationships. You can be friends first and convert it into a relationship just fine, but it's easier to just start as a relationship and build it up with that purpose in mind.
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[I]I'm scared to ask her out because we're friends and it would get all awkward.[/I]
It won't get awkward if you ask her out correctly.
If you go up to a girl that's a friend and casually say "Hey, want to go out with me to a movie on Saturday?" (once again, I emphasize the importance of saying go out, not hang out), she's not going to activate panic mode in her brain. It's a casual approach that invokes no sense of awkwardness. If she declines by giving you an excuse, you just shake/laugh it off and say it's cool. She'll think you bought the excuse and viola, the friendship continues as normal.
Things only get awkward if you diverge from the plan. If you tell a girl "Want to go out with me to a movie on Saturday? I've always had feelings for you and just got tired of holding them in," then you're slammed into awkward-zone right away. From then on, the only thing she'll think about when you're around is how you've always felt about her. She won't be able to relax around you, making things awkward.
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Don't misinterpret this as one of those "You're all social rejects, do things my way to get pussy," threads. If there's anything I advocate, it's being yourself. I don't believe in "pretending" to be confident in order to gain confidence, I believe in finding comfort with being yourself and playing to your own strengths and weaknesses. If you're a goofy, nerdy dude, then be a goofy and nerdy dude. There's all kinds of girls out there, so unless you're some truly revolting individual, there's plenty out there for you.
What I aim to do is give you the tools to initiate relationships with said girls. Strangely, virtually every girl operates in the same way when it comes down to things like this. Asking a girl out is the best course of action whether it's a shy or outgoing girl, a skinny or fat one, whatever. Sure, if you go about doing things a different way, you still have a chance for success, but keep in mind that [B]the exceptions do not make the rule.[/B] Telling a girl you love her and having her magically turn around and say the same thing is a fluke, if that happens to you, you're one incredibly lucky individual. You shouldn't see stories like that and think "Oh, that means I can do that too," because there's a good chance that you can't.
[B]You will be rejected many, many, many more times than you will be successful.[/B]
I've come a long way. Going to spare you from the life story, but I've gone from being completely inept at talking to females to being pretty damn good at it. However, I still get turned down. A lot. That's just the way the game works, you can't let yourself get all worked up every time you get rejected. You're shooting at targets in the dark, you're going to miss more than you're going to hit. At the same time, don't feel like the first hit you land is going to be the last. One of the worst things you can do is enter a relationship and grow extremely attached simply because you fear you will never find another one. There is almost always a more pretty, funny, smart, or whatever, girl out there than the one you're with. Don't be naive and think the first girl you get with is the best one in the world.
Well, that's all I have to say in terms of an OP. It's a lot, but you should at least scan through it before posting your own problem in the thread. If you really feel like your situation is different and requires special attention, post away, I'm sure most of the old LA vets will find their way into this thread and help you out.
[b][u]Darky's Guide to Break-Ups[/b][/u]
[quote]Hey all.
After having recently experienced probably [URL="http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1048696-Going-No-Contact-after-breakup-only-about-5-months-late?highlight="]the messiest break up in the history of relationships[/URL], I thought I’d write a thread sharing some advice which I would have found greatly beneficial had I received it a lot earlier. So for anyone who has recently been shown the door (or been kicked out of it), or for anyone who feels as if the end is around the corner, I hope the following information can prevent you from going through all the nonsense I experienced. For everyone else, feel free to add any advice or relevant comments.
Note, this is written from the perspective of a male in a relationship with a female, with the use of relevant pronouns. Most if not all of this advice can be used in any situation.
[U][B]- Pre Break Up -[/B][/U]
[B]Dump or be dumped[/B]
If you feel as if your relationship is really starting to come to an end, regardless of how you may feel about her, [I]you should end it first[/I]. It hurts a lot more being the dumpee than it does to be the dumper. This is obvious really. If you initiate the break up, you won’t be caught off guard; you’ll be fully expecting it and therefore much more prepared for it. Furthermore, you’ll be the one in control of the situation, showing that you are confident and comfortable with the decision.
Of course, don’t read this and decide that you have to immediately break up with your girlfriend to save yourself. I am talking about when you _know_ your relationship is at its final stages, and you’re both just waiting until someone finally bothers to say it. Don’t line up your next girl either, that’s just unfair for your current girlfriend. When the relationship is beyond repair, when that spark is gone, when there’s a problem that can’t be fixed, when either of you don’t feel the same way, etc... [I]When it’s time to end it, it’s time to end it.[/I] Delaying this and desperately grabbing at the last threads of a dying relationship comes across as clingy and insecure.
[B]Breaking up is the end[/B]
Before doing anything else, [I]exhaust all other options and realize that breaking up is the end[/I]; there’s really no going back. I personally don’t believe in ‘breaks’, to me they’re just a wussy way of delaying an inevitable break up. If there’s enough shit to warrant a break, the relationship is good as over. They have worked for some though, so perhaps they’re worth a try if you feel as though that’s what is needed. Maybe time and distance will allow you both to realize how much you really do like each other and make you appreciate each other more. Or maybe it’ll just give her the chance to go fuck ten other guys.
[B]Talk shit through[/B]
If you think there are some problems in your relationship, you should always put them out on the table with her first. They can’t do much about them if they don’t even know they’re causing a problem. Most of the time, you’ll be able to figure things out by simply discussing them and finding something which works for both of you. However, if there are some fundamental flaws which can’t be figured out, perhaps it’s time to revaluate why you’re with this girl in the first place.
[B]Difference in feelings?[/B]
It’s easier to feel lonely whilst alone than it is to feel lonely in a relationship you’re not happy with. If you feel as if she doesn’t feel for you as much as you do for her, there’s not much to do to save the relationship. Once the feeling’s dead, it’s almost impossible for it to be rekindled; you’re both just too comfortable by this point. Take a step back and look at yourself and how you interact with her. Are you smothering them? Are you being too available for them? Are you too clingy? Do you give in to all of their wishes? All of these things work against you, especially if you’re the male in the relationship. Give her some distance for a change, and try to be more challenging and less available. However, like I said, by this point it’s usually too late, and really all you can do is [I]make sure you do it right the next time[/I].
And vise versa, if you feel as if she is giving you more than you’re giving back and you both know it, it’s quite unfair to continue the relationship. You know you’re just waiting for someone else to come along more worth your attention and affection, and in the mean time you’re leading her along, essentially using her. You’re just delaying the inevitable, and like I said at the start of the previous paragraph, the only thing worse than being alone is being in a relationship where you don’t feel equally respected or loved. It’s better for the both of you to end it.
[B][U]- The Break Up -[/U][/B]
[B]What do[/B]
This shouldn’t need much explanation. Be proper enough to do it in person. Anything else will be seen as cowardly. What you say is up to you, but make it clear that the relationship is over. Organize a ‘swap’, of all the belongings you’ve accumulated of each others. This could be the next day, within the next week, whenever. Just don’t delay it for too long. You want to get this part over quickly before you feel as if you have to change your mind or whatever. The time of that ‘swap’ is perfect for some break up sex as well, as it’ll probably be the last time you interact with each other in a while. Break up sex is fine, it’s probably the best sex you’ll ever have with her. Just make sure both of you know it is break up sex (I kinda made the mistake of having sex first, twice, then told her I wanted to stop talking. She now hates me).
Don’t make any false promises or lies; if there’s any time to be honest, it’s now. Remaining friends after a break up is fine; you just need to make sure there’s a significant ‘cool down’ period after the break up for all feelings to die down.
[B][U]- Post Break Up -[/U][/B]
[B]Don’t be the loser[/B]
This part sucks. The immediate post-break up period, you’re bound to feel completely lost, lonely and miserable. Having to let go of someone you had a connection with is going to strain your emotions big time. However, no matter what, [I]do not crawl back to her[/I]. Do not say it was a mistake, do not say it was your fault, do not say you can change. It’s time to bite the fuck down on your tongue and move forward. To make this easier...
[B]No contact[/B]
[I]Go no contact[/I]. I can’t stress this enough. This was the biggest mistake I made, which made the 5-6 months following my break up a ridiculous waste of time full of mixed messages and muddled emotions. No, contact. Go to the extremes if you have to. I personally blocked her on MSN (knowing I’d be tempted to talk to her, as well as wanting to avoid being reminded of her every time I saw her sign on), and deleted her on Facebook (seeing status updates/wall posts from her would be a constant reminder every time I refreshed my News Feed). Luckily it was during school holidays so I didn’t have to deal with her in person (we sit next to each other in one class :/). She called me three times on the first night to call me a dickhead, but after that I decided to ignore calls. She didn’t call after that anyway. It’s up to you if you want to go all out with no contact and flat out ignoring all attempts at contact. Do what is comfortable but be strict on yourself if you feel yourself missing her and don’t ever cave.
The overall idea behind no contact is simple. Out of sight, out of mind. If you continue to talk to her, it’ll take a lot longer for your feelings to leave you, essentially delaying the time it takes for you to ‘move on’ or ‘get over’ her. Vise versa, if she’s the one struggling to shake her feelings, it’ll hurt a lot more but it’s much better for the both of you in the long run. By remaining close or even intimate, you’re just fucking with each other’s heads. False hopes are created, consciously or not. Sure, it’s comfortable to remain close, nobody wants to be alone, but it is much, much better for the both of you if you break away from each other, at least for a while until you can both confidently say you’re over it.
[B]Out of sight, out of mind[/B]
Make a small box and put away all the mementos of her, all the cute notes, the little gifts, whatever. You don’t have to burn them or anything drastic, just put them away so you don’t have to stumble upon them later. Again, out of sight, out of mind. I also chose to delete all the photos of us together on FB. I did however make a folder on my computer full of all the shit related to her and dumped all the pics in there with everything else. I’d recommend doing the same.
[B]Remember the bad and not the good[/B]
Don’t look back on all the good times. Sure, you had a lot of fun with her and you can think of many nice memories together, but don’t think of this shit; it doesn’t help you at all and only makes you feel worse. [I]Instead, focus on the negatives.[/I] Think of all the things you didn’t like, all those things you put up with, all the red flags you should have noticed, all the times she bothered, upset or frustrated you. [I]You broke up with her for a reason, don’t forget. Realize that this is for the better.[/I]
[B]Dealing with post breakup pain[/B]
The next few days, weeks, perhaps months; they’re not going to be fun. Expect to feel a lovely mix of regret, misery, guilt, anxiety, hate, frustration; all those great feelings. Sometimes, you’ll be fine and happy it’s over. Others, you’ll want nothing more than to be with her again. You just have to bite your lip and get through it. Don’t crack during this period of no contact. It’ll show your weakness, and express to her that you can’t be happy without her. If she cracks and talks to you, you should be friendly and polite, but making sure to remind her of what you’re doing and why. It’s a better idea to avoid all contact whatsoever. Otherwise it just lengthens this period.
I personally found the following to be quite an effective way of keeping myself going. During those times where I was able to think rationally about the break up, when I was realizing that it was a good thing, and that I just had to move through it, I wrote my thoughts down to a document on my computer. Anything that I was thinking, all the realizations and reaffirmations, all positive shit. Then later when I was at a bit more of a low, or when I started to miss her or think about trying again, whatever, I would just open that document to remind myself that at one point, I actually did completely believe that what I was doing was for the better. Emotions are stupid fucking things, and they can cloud even the most logical brains. Do this to avoid falling into these traps.
[B]Distract yourself[/B]
Recognize your own patterns and make efforts to avoid following them. I found myself missing her the most in the evening as that’s when we’d usually talk, so I chose to start playing games during that time, and sleeping earlier. Other times I'd go hit the gym which was also hugely beneficial (exercise is scientifically proven to release feel-good chemicals).
Spend time with your friends and family. Spending time alone can also be beneficial but it’s much easier to feel lonely and to let your mind wander when alone. Distract yourself with games, friends, hobbies, or other activities. Self teach something, get into a book, start a project, etc. The goal is to distract your mind so you don’t spend your days thinking of old memories and shit.
[B]Just don't think about it[/B]
This sounds like lame advice but in the end, this is what you want. You want to stop thinking about her. So, whenever you do, just get your shit under control and stop. Remember, you are in control of your feelings, your feelings are not in control of you. When you feel a thought of her coming along, just stop it right in its tracks. Imagine a big fucking Stop sign or a red light if you think it'll help, and then immediately go think about something else more important. Get up and change your environment, that can also help alter thought patterns.
[U][B]- Other Relevant Shit –[/B][/U]
[B]Rebound relationships[/B]
My personal stance on this is that rebound relationships are a bad idea. However, rebound dating/sex isn’t so bad, and can help distract you from how hurt and lonely you may feel after a break up. It’s not a good idea to get into a serious relationship straight after a break up. You’re only doing it to fill the void that was created from losing the previous relationship, without having any time to fully heal. You’re also using the other person in the rebound relationship, which isn’t fair for them. You should use the time after a break up to reflect on yourself, your previous partner, and relationships as a whole. Break ups do a lot for character building and self improvement, and you don’t want to lose this precious time by dragging your emotional baggage straight into another relationship.
[B]Getting back together[/B]
I personally think getting back together is a bad idea, especially in the immediate post-breakup period. It’s highly likely you both want to be together again simply out of a fear of being alone and because you miss having a girlfriend/boyfriend. How likely is it that the causes of the break up no longer exist? You broke up with this person for a reason, why would getting back together with them make any difference to who you both are? I wouldn’t suggest thinking of this, at least not until a large period of time has elapsed after the initial break up (I’m talking years, long enough for either of you to actually change as a person). Basically, the problems which caused the break up are still going to exist if you get back together, as long as you’re the same people.
However, if you really want to make it work again, and if you believe the relationship was thrown away carelessly and with no good reason, then it’s not completely impossible. The best thing to do is to express that you can be happy without her, without completely turning her away. You want to express the idea that you don’t need her to be happy, and that you can live your own life comfortably and confidently. When you interact with her, be friendly and fun, highlight all the qualities she originally fell in love with. Don’t be as available as you were when you were together. Go out, live your own life, even start dating other women casually, and don’t hide these things from her. Don’t act depressed and upset that she’s gone, thinking she’ll feel sorry for you and come back to you to make you happy. The last thing you want to do is beg her to take you back. The goal is simply to make her attracted to you again, and to remind her of all the fun she had, and could again have, with you.
If that goes successfully and you somehow end up with her again, you should begin by figuring out the things that caused the break up in the first place. Lay out your issues with each other so you can help each other figure them out and work through them. Don’t expect to get back together and for everything to be perfect again; you’re the same combination that fell apart once already. You both need to put in more than you ever did to rectify whatever problems existed between the two of you.
[U][B]– Essential Points (TL;DR?) –[/B][/U]
[B]Don’t be so eager to make a relationship serious:[/B] Keep things casual for as long as possible. Casual is easy and fun. Date girls, fuck them, have fun with them, but don’t be so keen to be their boyfriend. That shit just gets all emotionally involved and you’re going to end up getting hurt. Unless you...
[B]Expect long term relationships to end:[/B] If you really do want a serious relationship, go in with this mindset. It’s going to end eventually, so don’t invest all of your emotional energy into it. Would you invest all of your shares in a company which is going to eventually fail? No, so why would you do this with a relationship. Take it slow, don’t ever give more than you’re getting, and just have fun with it.
[B]Breaking up is the end:[/B] Once it’s over, it’s over. No going back. It’s almost impossible for a person’s base personality to change much at all, and if the combination of your base personalities didn’t work out the first time, how likely is it to work the second? Don’t bother, at least not unless many years have passed and you’ve both changed and for some reason you’re in a situation to try it all again.
[B]Deal with a break up in the right way:[/B] Break up with her instead of the other way around. After the break up, don’t hang around and try to remain friendly if one of you (probably you) still have romantic interest in the other. Go no contact until you’re over her and ready to move on, really.
[B]Focus on your own life:[/B] You're single again. Go out, have fun, fuck women, see your friends, connect with family. Start a hobby or a project. Invest your time into something actually useful and beneficial to yourself. Not only will you learn something new and have fun doing so, it’ll be a great distraction from how much you might be hurting.
[B]The first is always the worst:[/B] This sucks, I know. Break ups won't ever be easy, but the first is always going to be a lot harder. Everyone that has ever been through a bad break up will know that it can be one of the worst experiences ever. Learn from this, and be more prepared for next time. Until then, keep your chin up.
[U][B]- Conclusion -[/B][/U]
Break ups aren’t fun, but unfortunately they’re just part of life. If you’re willing to consider long term relationships, they just have to be accepted as a very likely possibility. Obviously, the first break up is always the hardest, but you’ll learn a lot from the entire experience.
By the end of all of it, you’ll know you made the right decision and you’ll be glad you did. You’ll finally be able to look back on the relationship objectively, without having your mind clouded by feelings. You’ll realize that you’re better off without her, and you’ll be confident that when you finally do meet someone else, you’ll be much better equipped and able to deal with the relationship in a more mature manner.
Just hang in there, because it gets better, no matter what.
Everything is transient; all the highs are followed by lows which are in turn followed by highs again.
All the best <3.[/quote]
Don't touch this, benji.
Thanks Maverick.
If LA goes this thread should stay.
So all I should do is ask her out? Shiitttt.
Always keep your head up even through rejection! :)
I like this thread. Hope it doesn't turn into a shitstorm.
I can tell this thread is going to be a catastrophic failure. I hope for the best but GD seems to be filled with folks mining for funny ratings. Never really went into the love advice forum though so not sure if it's the same there. Oh well.
Best of luck to those without any!
[QUOTE=Elexar;28236434]Don't touch this, benji.
Thanks Maverick.[/QUOTE]
I kid you not
your avatar
this song
right in sync
[editline]23rd February 2011[/editline]
[url]http://www.stromkern.com/audio/standup_clip.mp3[/url]
Glad to see you saved a backup of that topic you posted that originally got stickied.
I didn't. Typed this shit up from scratch.
Hell, I skipped my World Geography class to make this thread. LA was my Sistine Chapel and Garry destroyed it after I put in a year and a half of hard work on it.
Rated Winner because there's a lot of truth in the OP
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28236712]I didn't. Typed this shit up from scratch.
Hell, I skipped my World Geography class to make this thread. LA was my Sistine Chapel and Garry destroyed it after I put in a year and a half of hard work on it.[/QUOTE]
Shit, dude.
Mav, dude. You must get laid SO much.
Way better OP than the other thread.
I read it, and I feel smarter. Thanks Maverick
[QUOTE=Foghorn;28236803]Mav, dude. You must get laid SO much.[/QUOTE]
I can't tell if this is sarcasm or what, haha.
Hopefully the vast majority of FP will start getting laid, after taking your advices, Maverick :v:
My girlfriend hates herself because her mum was a complete fucking faggot to her for the vast majority of her childhood. When I say she's pretty (she really is) she always says she doesn't believe me and she doesn't know why people tell her she is.
How can I make her feel better about herself when she says stuff like that? I'm not asking for any long term advice because I know the best thing to do is just talk to her about it, but I'm sort of running out of stuff to say to her she says she isn't pretty. What do?
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;28236860]Hopefully the vast majority of FP will start getting laid, after taking your advices, Maverick :v:[/QUOTE]
But I don't want to get laid.
[QUOTE=MaverickIB;28236832]I can't tell if this is sarcasm or what, haha.[/QUOTE]
No, seriously.
I mean you pretty much know THE rules of women and how they work and I mean you're like, really attractive.
shit
are you....God?
[QUOTE=Foghorn;28236912]No, seriously.
I mean you pretty much know THE rules of women and how they work and I mean you're like, really attractive.[/QUOTE]
Oh it's not like women are [I]thaaaat[/I] hard to figure out, IMO just pay close attention to what they do/say :P
dude
we're a fucking rubix cube of emotion and confusion
Thanks Mav, I am now having sex with 2 girls at the same time as I'm writing this.
i ask in other thread, no get answer
i want remove bonner but girl not say okay when ask can penis go in vagina
what do to make girl want bonner in vagena so can no longer have bonner
thx
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitposting" - Orkel))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Foghorn;28236971]dude
we're a fucking rubix cube of emotion and confusion[/QUOTE]
Doesn't mean we can't get a read on you dudettes :smug:
[QUOTE=ViciousRaptor;28237022]i ask in other thread, no get answer
i want remove bonner but girl not say okay when ask can penis go in vagina
what do to make girl want bonner in vagena so can no longer have bonner
thx[/QUOTE]
:geno:
Get out.
I am unsure of how to ask her out. I only see her occasionally and then it is in the middle of class.
Love Advice was literally half the reason I came to Facepunch. The other half was General Games Discussion and the occasional news thread. I really liked the community on Love Advice and it's sad to see it go due to yet another arbitrary garry decision. C'est la Facepunch I suppose.
Anyway, for those of you who don't know MaverickIB, you should know 2 things:
1. He seems like a dick (would he offer to help people if he really was a dick?)
2. He's often right
Don't let his attitude get in the way of the excellent advice you will get from him.
Wait LA got removed?
..shit
[QUOTE=~ZOMG;28236869]My girlfriend hates herself because her mum was a complete fucking faggot to her for the vast majority of her childhood. When I say she's pretty (she really is) she always says she doesn't believe me and she doesn't know why people tell her she is.
How can I make her feel better about herself when she says stuff like that? I'm not asking for any long term advice because I know the best thing to do is just talk to her about it, but I'm sort of running out of stuff to say to her she says she isn't pretty. What do?[/QUOTE]
I know you're going to hate me saying this, but she's just hunting for attention. It makes her feel good when you lathe her in compliments, so she continually tells you that she thinks she's ugly in order to get them. It's a lot like skinny girls telling everyone that they think they're fat, they love when people jump all over them telling them how awesome their body is. This isn't necessarily a conscious thing, sometimes it happens subconsciously.
Like any addiction, the best way to handle it is to shut it out. Instead of shooting compliments her way when she complains about being ugly, just ignore it or change the subject right away. Eventually, she'll start being more aggressive about it because she'll want you to fucking compliment her. Just stay the course, fight through her withdrawals, and through time she'll stop whoring for attention.
[QUOTE=Foghorn;28237063]:geno:
Get out.[/QUOTE]
but how get girl to let penis in vageina without screem?
i confuze
The fuck [del]mods.[/del] Garry.
The fuck.
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