Ebola in the US, round two(?): Texas health care worker tests positive in preliminary test - Polidicks

[url]http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/ebola-texas-health-care-worker-tests-positive-in-preliminary-test-1.2796433[/url] [quote=CBC]A health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital who provided care for an Ebola patient there has tested positive for Ebola in a preliminary test, the Texas Department of State Health Services said in a statement on Sunday. The health care worker reported a low-grade fever Friday night and was isolated and referred for testing, it said.[/quote]

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I don't know what about 'Tested positive for Ebola' you think means he might not actually have the disease?

Not even a 'oh shit we're fucked post' , just jumping straight to arguements

Thing is media blows things out of proportion and half the people are too stupid to take a step back and look at what ebola is really about and how you get it

[QUOTE=Kirbyfactor;46213419]Not even a 'oh shit we're fucked post' , just jumping straight to arguements[/QUOTE] Oh fuck were gonna be poor

well as long as no-one starts throwing his blood around, it's all fine.

cool it thomo [editline]12th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=_Maverick_;46213443]well as long as no-one starts throwing his blood around, it's all fine.[/QUOTE] best not kerb stomp anybody you might not come out on top this time

[QUOTE=_Maverick_;46213443]well as long as no-one starts throwing his blood around, it's all fine.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v247/ifskin/Awesome.gif[/IMG]

Question, if the virus is passed by blood, can it be transferred by Mosquitos?

[QUOTE=Holt!;46213501]Question, if the virus is passed by blood, can it be transferred by Mosquitos?[/QUOTE] No.

Ta, was unsure.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46213410] it's next to impossible to get a bloodborn diease of you're following them.[/QUOTE] Do you work in this field or something?

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46213589]Yes. Universal precautions are extremely effective and include things like "wearing gloves when in contact with a patient", there's more to them but the point is, if you're following them, the odds of getting something from a patient (or the patient getting something from you) are so small that they might as well be 0.[/QUOTE] :v: Now I understand why you're so critical of this article.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46213589]Yes. Universal precautions are extremely effective and include things like "wearing gloves when in contact with a patient", there's more to them but the point is, if you're following them, the odds of getting something from a patient (or the patient getting something from you) are so small that they might as well be 0.[/QUOTE] Do you work for the CDC because you're underplaying what could be the deadliest pandemic since the plague. If you breathe in what someone who is symptomatic sneezes, if you grab a doorknob someone coughed on (For up to a few hours) or somehow come in contact with their blood (For up to a few DAYS) You catch it. It spreads the same way as the common cold, it just doesn't survive outside the body as long, and can survive as long if not longer than Flu viruses The only thing we have to fight against Ebola with is containment and A pair of rubber gloves and hoping everyone with it manages to cover their mouths 100% isn't containment. You can't fuck around with this shit.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;46213637]Do you work for the CDC because you're underplaying what could be the deadliest pandemic since the plague. If you breathe in what someone who is symptomatic sneezes, if you grab a doorknob someone coughed on (For up to a few hours) or somehow come in contact with their blood (For up to a few DAYS) You catch it. It spreads the same way as the common cold, it just doesn't survive outside the body as long, and can survive as long if not longer than Flu viruses The only thing we have to fight against Ebola with is containment and A pair of rubber gloves and hoping everyone with it manages to cover their mouths 100% isn't containment. You can't fuck around with this shit.[/QUOTE] Sure, it can, but I've seen very little proof that it [I]does.[/I] Also, don't read the facebook comments on the articles. Literally all of them are blaming Obama for not securing the southern border

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46213622]Yea, stupid fucking articles like this, and the media blaring symptoms all over the place while conviniently not mentioning that it's bloodborn have lead to me treating no less than 4 people a day who say "i have a low grade fever and diarrhea, therefore I have ebola". These people are the fucking worst because you have to spend 45+ minutes explaining that their stupid ass has VGE and doesn't need to be admitted to the hospital.[/QUOTE] It's irresponsible to spread the message it's almost impossible to get since it's not that impossible, although it's not airborn you still get get it by contact with contaminated objects and then touching your eyes for instance. Even if the chance is low, why risk it when it's such a deadly disease?

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46213707]Because I live in a geographical region with no suspected or confirmed cases of ebola. These are people who literally can't have the disease because they've made no contact with the disease. And they'd know that if the media would tell the whole story of ebola instead of blowing up about "omg killing dudes". By the way, this outbreak still hasn't killed as many people as the yearly flu outbreaks, but no-one freaks the fuck out about the flu.[/QUOTE] In that case I do understand your pain and agree it's annoying when there are people that go way overboard in situations like this but although the number is still quite low, the worry is that if it's not controlled it's going to grow a lot so comparing to the flu doesn't seem to be a good argument to me at this point.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46213707]Because I live in a geographical region with no suspected or confirmed cases of ebola. These are people who literally can't have the disease because they've made no contact with the disease. And they'd know that if the media would tell the whole story of ebola instead of blowing up about "omg killing dudes". By the way, this outbreak still hasn't killed as many people as the yearly flu outbreaks, but no-one freaks the fuck out about the flu.[/QUOTE] Because if you are a normal healthy person, the mortality rate for the flu is very low. However, no matter what health you are in, Ebola still has a fuck high mortality rate.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;46213663]Universal precautions are far more than just "wear gloves". I merely mentioned that in particular because everyone here would be familiar with the example.[/QUOTE] Don't even bother. When it comes to Ebola threads TheTalon literally ignores anything anyone says that doesn't maintain Ebola as a super ultra contagious apocalypse bringing death disease. Also, just wanted to say I support everything you said in this thread (corpsman up). [editline]12th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46213752]Because if you are a normal healthy person, the mortality rate for the flu is very low. However, no matter what health you are in, Ebola still has a fuck high mortality rate.[/QUOTE] 56,000 Americans each year vs 1 so far. Don't underestimate the Flu, it can kill the healthiest person without proper care.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;46213637]Do you work for the CDC because you're underplaying what could be the deadliest pandemic since the plague. If you breathe in what someone who is symptomatic sneezes, if you grab a doorknob someone coughed on (For up to a few hours) or somehow come in contact with their blood (For up to a few DAYS) You catch it. It spreads the same way as the common cold, it just doesn't survive outside the body as long, and can survive as long if not longer than Flu viruses The only thing we have to fight against Ebola with is containment and A pair of rubber gloves and hoping everyone with it manages to cover their mouths 100% isn't containment. You can't fuck around with this shit.[/QUOTE] I was under the impression that Ebola can only be transmitted if you get any contaminated body fluids in your face or wounds? Not to mention it has a far lower mortality rate when you're properly cared for, and it cannot be transmitted until you're showing real Ebola symptoms.

[QUOTE=jiggu;46213834]I was under the impression that Ebola can only be transmitted if you get any contaminated body fluids in your face or wounds? Not to mention it has a far lower mortality rate when you're properly cared for, and it cannot be transmitted until you're showing real Ebola symptoms.[/QUOTE] It can spread via large droplets, but it isn't as likely to spread as coming into contact with infected blood/infected blood or blood products entering a wound/exposed mucus membranes such as the eyes or mouth.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46213807]56,000 Americans each year vs 1 so far. Don't underestimate the Flu, it can kill the healthiest person without proper care.[/QUOTE] And how many Americans catch the flu each year v.s. eblola? That's a very misleading statistic you are pushing out because you're not taking into account how many people are exposed to the flu and survive. If Ebola had the same level of exposure (the same amount of people caught ebola), what would the death toll look like then?

Due to the drama in this thread I got myself confused, this patient, does he have Ebola?

[QUOTE=Xonax;46213926]Due to the drama in this thread I got myself confused, this patient, does he have Ebola?[/QUOTE] He might, it's not confirmed yet.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46213904]And how many Americans catch the flu each year v.s. eblola? That's a very misleading statistic you are pushing out because you're not taking into account how many people are exposed to the flu and survive. If Ebola had the same level of exposure (the same amount of people caught ebola), what would the death toll look like then?[/QUOTE] Of course Ebola would have a higher death toll since we basically have no effective treatments for VHF's besides supportive care (sans Yellow Fever) but you're also going under the assumption that Ebola is as easily spread as the Flu, which isn't the case (sneezing, coughing). Basically, if you're freaking out about Ebola you should also be freaking out about the Flu. Another factoid here but the Flu has killed more Americans yearly than Ebola has killed human worldwide (this year) sooooooo.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46213944]Of course Ebola would have a higher death toll since we basically have no effective treatments for VHF's besides supportive care (sans Yellow Fever) but you're also going under the assumption that Ebola is as easily spread as the Flu, which isn't the case (sneezing, coughing). Basically, if you're freaking out about Ebola you should also be freaking out about the Flu. Another factoid here but the Flu has killed more Americans yearly than Ebola has killed human worldwide (this year) sooooooo.[/QUOTE] I'm not assuming anything. I was looking for a mortality rate. That means that one in every X amount of people who catch this illness will die from it. It has nothing to do with how many people catch it, it has to do with how deadly it is. That's why nobody freaks out about the flu, but everyone freaks out about things like ebola. Ebola has a significantly higher mortality rate vs the flu.

[QUOTE=Silence I Kill You;46213976]I'm not assuming anything. I was looking for a mortality rate. That means that one in every X amount of people who catch this illness will die from it. It has nothing to do with how many people catch it, it has to do with how deadly it is. That's why nobody freaks out about the flu, but everyone freaks out about things like ebola. Ebola has a significantly higher mortality rate vs the flu.[/QUOTE] Well it stands to reason that the only time you should be freaking out about Ebola is if you're one of the few Americans who have had close and continuing contact with an infected person which is less than 99.9% of the population. Honestly, this is all stupid, needless, fearmongering by the media and its won people over with misinformation and ignorance. [editline]12th October 2014[/editline] On another note, if you're worried about Ebola you should also be worried about the tens of other Viral Hemmorhagic Fevers.

[QUOTE=TheTalon;46213637]Do you work for the CDC because you're underplaying what could be the deadliest pandemic since the plague. [/QUOTE] AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Who are you, that do not know your history? Have you heard of the fucking Spanish Influenza, mate? The Spanish Influenza [B]contributed to the end of World War I, and killed [U]three to five percent of the world's entire population.[/U][/B] They buried bodies standing up, packed in groups just to deal with the sheer amount of those who had succumbed to it. The Spanish Influenza was the worst pandemic since the plague. Even now, the Flu kills 30,000 people every year. Ebola has killed 4,000. Ebola [B]will[/B] kill people, yes, but it isn't going to kill the entire fucking world like you think. [b]Stop[/b] this fearmongering end-of-the-world bullshit because it's not like nothing's being done. Every fucking thread we have these holier-than-thou people who are so resolute in their clairvoyancy that bagazillions will die and nothing can be done. Gee fucking whilikers, I mean, it's not like we've been practicing and refining medicine and the containment of pandemics for longer than any living human has been alive, is it? This is ignoring the fact that people during the Plague thought that bad smells caused illness (to the point that plague doctors wore scented flowers and other natural substances in the 'beaks' of their masks) and were incapable of doing any kind of procedures. The Black Death [B]cannot[/B] happen again. Medicine is simply too advanced and the human populace is far more intelligent and informed by average now. It is simply impossible for the world to devolve into that kind of chaos. Christ, you people act like we're still living in hovels praying the local Lord won't defile your wife before beheading you while your son's out being gobbled whole by rogue packs of wolves while your neighbour's armpits devolve into turgid muck. The reason that so much terrible news about Ebola is spreading (lol) right now is because it makes a cunning and biting news narrative. The news loves nothing more than to peddle and parade stories of slow, sliding car-crash chaos to you. Why? because it enraptures you. It makes you read the paper they're peddling. It makes you click their headlines and it makes you glued to the screen. There's no NWO bollocks behind this, they just want to make money and keep perpetuating their existence regardless of whether or not they have to incite artificial panic in the process. It was the same case with Swine Flu. Swine Flu was a genuinely dangerous disease, yeah, but it wasn't the end of the world like the news made it out to be. Look at SARS. SARS was another fucking horrible and lethal disease. Did it kill the world, though? No. You're still sat here. Look at Avian Flu. Did that kill everyone? Well.. hold on, let me get my pulse watch. Suffice to say the only reason you're scared of Ebola right now is because that's exactly what sells newspapers. You being worried makes you want to stick to the same people who got you scared, the news, as you want to be alert and aware of what's going on with the big scary thing around the corner. Apply some critical thinking and don't take every headline and statistic of mortality as 100% truth. Apply history and think pragmatically instead of flailing around in terror like an immature duckling who's just seen a fox over the hill.

[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;46214033]Well it stands to reason that the only time you should be freaking out about Ebola is if you're one of the few Americans who have had close and continuing contact with an infected person which is less than 99.9% of the population. Honestly, this is all stupid, needless, fearmongering by the media and its won people over with misinformation and ignorance. [editline]12th October 2014[/editline] On another note, if you're worried about Ebola you should also be worried about the tens of other Viral Hemmorhagic Fevers.[/QUOTE] Maybe I should point out that I personally am not worried about ebola due to how it's transmitted. I don't think it's necessarily "fearmongering", I just think that until the public sees that we can handle this and contain it, that there will be skepticism.