Written by the banned marlkarx.
Heads up, I am not a fascist.
People often toss around 'Nazism', 'Neo-Nazism', and 'fascism' without understanding its context. Fascism, although Neo-Nazis clearly don't understand it, has a complicated ideological basis (though there have been many disagreements).
Fascism started in Italy with the national syndicalists. National syndicalists, not to be confused with the supposedly anarchist 'anarcho-syndicalists', believe in a corporate state with little distinction between social classes. They believe the state trade union (which is the only union) should force workers and owners to collaborate. Some of them believed in Roman Catholicism as a state religion, while some were anti-clerical and others were even pagan. National syndicalism would serve as the basis for fascism, though at times it would seem very unclear.
First of all, fascists want to create a totalitarian single-party state. They want a fascist party to control the entire government, along with social aspects of life. Fascists believe that their citizens can be mobilized to their cause through physical education and indoctrination (this can be seen with the Hitler Youth of Nazi Germany). Fascism rejects the bourgeois and the proletarian, believing in a nationalism and populism in which people are bound by their ancestry and blood.
A fascist economy is neither a communistic state-owned one, nor a liberal economy. Fascists believe liberalism and Marxism are class based movements, and oppose classes. The fascist economy is supposedly socialist, when in reality it is not it is a market economy, regulated by the government and guided by a state-owned trade union. They support the profit motive.
In fascism there exists private property (although they believe it should be regulated). Fascists support social interventionism to promote the state. They believe in a transformation of society. Mussolini proposed a "social revolution" which was populist social programmes and the opening of many public buildings (sports centers, libraries, parks), while Hitler did this and proposed eugenics. Fascist culture is based off the culture of the past: masculine and heroic. Their architecture is often large and luxurious to prove that the common man is nothing compared to the state. They reject multiculturalism. Fascists believe in the militarization of society through education and physical education.
How does Nazism differ from Italian and Spanish fascism?
Nazism, also known as National Socialism, was a variant of fascism that incorporated antisemitism and believed in the supremacy of the Aryan "master race". Nazism was based off Germany at the time, and was a reaction to the failure of Germany in World War I, the Treaty of Versailles, the depression, the failure of the Weimar Republic, the German Revolution and the rising communists. Many fascists believe in a "greater" version of their country, the Nazis believed in a Greater Germany.
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Fascism, although Neo-Nazis clearly don't understand it,has a complicated ideological basis
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I would like to ask, what do you mean by this sentence? Is it because ignorance or something?
[QUOTE=$$JOSE$$;32361199]I would like to ask, what do you mean by this sentence? Is it because ignorance or something?[/QUOTE]
Neo-Nazis generally do not understand fascism or Nazism as an ideology, they just espouse racism. For example, the NDP believes in populism for the ethnic Germans and anti-immigrant policies.
marlkarx invited me to a group chat recently what was that all about
It was marlchat
cool youve done first grade history me too wanna come round to my sandbox later
Hardly an essay :v:
Still better than communism, which is not to say that either are good.
Anyone who disagrees with me should look at the death tolls of communism.
People generally hate fascism more because they killed discriminatly while communism killed way more people indescriminatly
[QUOTE=The mouse;32361745]Still better than communism.[/QUOTE]
That's a good one, it's almost like you don't know anything about the subject!
Well, I see. But isn't this pretty obvious?
And you say that nazism differs from other kinds of fascism because of the anti-semitism, yet you list the rejection of multi-culturalism as a key aspect of all fascism?
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[QUOTE=Megafanx13;32361793]That's a good one, it's almost like you don't know anything about the subject![/QUOTE]
Well, fascism and the second step of the communism ladder are much alike - where communism and fascism truly differs, in my opinion, is the communist dream of the completely equal society. In communism, the totalitarian state is the means of reaching a glorious society - in fascism, it is the goal. Right?
[QUOTE=Codename 47;32361835]Well, I see. But isn't this pretty obvious?
And you say that nazism differs from other kinds of fascism because of the anti-semitism, yet you list the rejection of multi-culturalism as a key aspect of all fascism?
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Nazism is specifically more radical in its anti multi-culturalism.
[QUOTE=The mouse;32361745]Still better than communism.[/QUOTE]
That's terrible and you should feel ashamed.
In the purest form, far right is about freedom, while far left is about equality.
In reality however in countries with these sorts of ideologies in action, some are more free than others, and some people are more equal than others.
[QUOTE=Codename 47;32361835]Well, fascism and the second step of the communism ladder are much alike - where communism and fascism truly differs, in my opinion, is the communist dream of the completely equal society. In communism, the totalitarian state is the means of reaching a glorious society - in fascism, it is the goal. Right?[/QUOTE]
A Socialist society (in economic terms) is the stepping stone to a Communist society, it doesn't have to be Totalitarian.
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