Bernie Sanders: "If we win the California primary with a decent vote, we're going to the White House
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With a new poll showing him in a competitive race in California, Bernie Sanders kicked off his campaign in the Golden State with a jam-packed rally at the Wiltern Theatre on Wednesday night.
[B]Though the Vermont senator faces a steep uphill climb in the delegate math, he vowed to fight all the way to June 7, when California closes out the primary season.
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[B]"If we win the California primary with a decent vote, we're going together to the White House," he said, to raucous applause.[/B]
As Sanders spoke, the Public Policy Institute of California [URL="http://www.ppic.org/content/pubs/survey/S_316MBS.pdf"]released a new survey[/URL] showing a close race on the Democratic side. The poll, conducted March 6-15, found Hillary Clinton leading Sanders by 48 to 41 percent.[/quote]
I will be voting for him when he comes to my state in California at June 7, but I think the old guy's optimism is a little unwarranted.
According to the latest polls, he's getting pretty close to Hillary. He still have enough time to beat her.
[URL="http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/california-democratic/"]http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/california-democratic/[/URL]
I don't think that the optimism is unwarranted, being confident is pretty important for his image as a candidate. He still has a very real shot at securing the nomination, California is a complete game changer. With the way he has been performing in the polls as of late, I'm feeling reasonably confident.
[b][URL="http://www.270towin.com/2016-democratic-nomination-polls/delegate-totals-maps/"]2016 Democratic Delegate Maps[/URL][/b]
[QUOTE=Chaitin;50010447]According to the latest polls, he's getting pretty close to Hillary. He still have enough time to beat her.
[URL="http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/california-democratic/"]http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/california-democratic/[/URL][/QUOTE]
With a jump of 3% to 41% in less than a year— I am beginning to consider Sander's inevitable loss is all about timing and how little known he is. If we had one more year of campaigning, he may very well win.
I am willing to bet— with full confidence— that Bernie Sanders will be the 46th President of The United States. 100% behind that projection like the many others I have made this election season.
To be honest I don't have the most confidence at this stage in the race, but I suppose it's possible. All you can do is wait and see what happens.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50010467]With a jump of 3% to 41% in less than a year— I am beginning to consider Sander's inevitable loss is all about timing and how little known he is. If we had one more year of campaigning, he may very well win.
I am willing to bet— with full confidence— that Bernie Sanders will be the 46th President of The United States. 100% behind that projection like the many others I have made this election season.[/QUOTE]
Are you sure? I agree that he'll have significantly more momentum but... the man would be 79 at the start of his term.
EDIT: Yeah, okay, don't merge this. Whatever. :huh:
All I can say is:
Keep supporting the hell out of the candidate that you want to be seen as your party's nominee for president. It isn't over until a candidate is chosen, so keep giving all the support you can!
And when that candidate is chosen, if it isn't the one you wanted to be nominated, vote for the candidate that best supports your views, even if it's not necessarily the one you wanted.
[QUOTE=New Cidem;50010476]Are you sure? I agree that he'll have significantly more momentum but... the man would be 79 at the start of his term.
EDIT: Yeah, okay, don't merge this. Whatever. :huh:[/QUOTE]
He would be old— but Bernie Sander's vibrancy, personality and enthusiasm would still remain 40 years younger.
He certainly acts younger than Hillary Clinton— who is younger than him.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50010467]With a jump of 3% to 41% in less than a year— I am beginning to consider Sander's inevitable loss is all about timing and how little known he is. If we had one more year of campaigning, he may very well win.
I am willing to bet— with full confidence— that Bernie Sanders will be the 46th President of The United States. 100% behind that projection like the many others I have made this election season.[/QUOTE]
Your confidence is starting to make me wish I worded my TOXX better in the elections predictions thread. I didn't specify [I]when[/I] he would become president, just IF.
Shit.
[editline]When are you seeing this?[/editline]
If I get banned by this 4 or 8 years from now, I want you all to know that Starpluck called it.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50010500]He would be old— but Bernie Sander's vibrancy, personality and enthusiasm would still remain 40 years younger.
He certainly acts younger than Hillary Clinton— who is younger than him.[/QUOTE]
Very true, I still worry that the stress of being president may affect his health in a negative way.
[QUOTE=New Cidem;50010672]Very true, I still worry that the stress of being president may affect his health in a negative way.[/QUOTE]
He's been living with the stress of being almost the only politician going against the grain for 30-40 years. I'd say he's good for ability to cope.
There isn't really any time for Bernie's momentum to build up and sweep more states after a massive win in California, as it's just a week out from the end of the primary. California is one of the last states voting in the primary. Even if he pulls out a major win in the state, he will need to win nearly every delegate in the state to actually stop Clinton, who will be inches away from securing the nomination at that point, assuming she doesn't have it already.
[QUOTE=Maegord;50010730]There isn't really any time for Bernie's momentum to build up and sweep more states after a massive win in California, as it's just a week out from the end of the primary. California is one of the last states voting in the primary. Even if he pulls out a major win in the state, he will need to win nearly every delegate in the state to actually stop Clinton, who will be inches away from securing the nomination at that point, assuming she doesn't have it already.[/QUOTE]
Even if every state between now and California is a 50/50 split, a landslide win of 81% would instantly catch Bernie up with Hillary. And forecasts are generally favoring Bernie for the upcoming states, now that the South is mostly over with.
[QUOTE=EcksDee;50010699]He's been living with the stress of being almost the only politician going against the grain for 30-40 years. I'd say he's good for ability to cope.[/QUOTE]
bernie sanders is that kind of crappy old man who looks [I]juuuuuust[/I] crappy enough that he'll probably live like a billion years. trying to age someone who already looks as shitty as bernie does is like trying to punch water.
[QUOTE=Maegord;50010730]There isn't really any time for Bernie's momentum to build up and sweep more states after a massive win in California, as it's just a week out from the end of the primary. California is one of the last states voting in the primary. Even if he pulls out a major win in the state, he will need to win nearly every delegate in the state to actually stop Clinton, who will be inches away from securing the nomination at that point, assuming she doesn't have it already.[/QUOTE]
He's on track to sweep three states today by large margins, and the remaining states are all favorable places for him
[QUOTE=Sableye;50010882]He's on track to sweep three states today by large margins, and the remaining states are all favorable places for him[/QUOTE]
They need to be convincingly favourable, it's not enough to win them as it isn't winner takes all.
[QUOTE=ClarkWasHere;50010494]All I can say is:
Keep supporting the hell out of the candidate that you want to be seen as your party's nominee for president. It isn't over until a candidate is chosen, so keep giving all the support you can!
And when that candidate is chosen, if it isn't the one you wanted to be nominated, vote for the candidate that best supports your views, even if it's not necessarily the one you wanted.[/QUOTE]
what if both candidates that are left don't support any of my vital views (TPP, Encryption, Anti-Censorship, health care, etc.)
do i just nuke it all with my vote
[QUOTE=OvB;50011519]Was Sanders expected to win AK?[/QUOTE]
The state that elected Sarah Palin?
Hell no, but I'll gladly take it.
[QUOTE=proch;50011503]If Bernie went up against Trump, he'd get stumped[/QUOTE]
Probably not, Trump's primary debate angle is to attack his opponents on personal issues and as far as I can tell bernie has no dirt on him at [I]all[/I]
[QUOTE=phygon;50011634]Probably not, Trump's primary debate angle is to attack his opponents on personal issues and as far as I can tell bernie has no dirt on him at [I]all[/I][/QUOTE]
Trump can always use Bernie's rabid supporters against him. They haven't been making a good impression at all, and could potentially hurt his chances of getting the presidency.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;50011842]Trump can always use Bernie's rabid supporters against him. They haven't been making a good impression at all, and could potentially hurt his chances of getting the presidency.[/QUOTE]
If Trump tries doing that the hypocrisy will be great.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;50011842]Trump can always use Bernie's rabid supporters against him. They haven't been making a good impression at all, and could potentially hurt his chances of getting the presidency.[/QUOTE]Not really, the, "Ohh you have bad supporters!" angle is basically relegated to a few offshoot conversations for people who can't even think of a legit reason they don't like Sanders. They don't want to admit they're not as progressive as they tell people, so they go, "Well... his supporters are shit! I can't be shit, therefore I can't be a Sanders supporter!"
I've been seeing quite a few Bernie Sanders bumper stickers over here in Los Angeles recently. I think he can pull it off.
[QUOTE=jimbobjoe1234;50011842]Trump can always use Bernie's rabid supporters against him. They haven't been making a good impression at all, and could potentially hurt his chances of getting the presidency.[/QUOTE]
The difference is that Trump is the embodiment of his supporters while Sanders just happens to have rabid supporters.
[QUOTE=New Cidem;50010476]Are you sure? I agree that he'll have significantly more momentum but... the man would be 79 at the start of his term.
EDIT: Yeah, okay, don't merge this. Whatever. :huh:[/QUOTE]
He'd be 83/84. Sanders would never run against an incumbent democrat
[editline]26th March 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Doctor Zedacon;50011991]Not really, the, "Ohh you have bad supporters!" angle is basically relegated to a few offshoot conversations for people who can't even think of a legit reason they don't like Sanders. They don't want to admit they're not as progressive as they tell people, so they go, "Well... his supporters are shit! I can't be shit, therefore I can't be a Sanders supporter!"[/QUOTE]
Have you been on a college campus recently? Bernie supporters are enough to turn someone off of a candidate. Yes, most people are that shallow
[QUOTE=Starpluck;50010467]With a jump of 3% to 41% in less than a year— I am beginning to consider Sander's inevitable loss is all about timing and how little known he is. If we had one more year of campaigning, he may very well win.
I am willing to bet— with full confidence— that Bernie Sanders will be the 46th President of The United States. 100% behind that projection like the many others I have made this election season.[/QUOTE]
If he goddamn lives that long. He will be 78 then.
[QUOTE=proboardslol;50012090]Have you been on a college campus recently? Bernie supporters are enough to turn someone off of a candidate. Yes, most people are that shallow[/QUOTE]
Have you seen any Trump supporters? They're far, far worse than over-enthusiastic Bernie supporters. I'd take meme-spouting college kids over trigger-happy racist thugs any day of the week, and twice on Saturdays.
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