this video made me realize i have PT tomorrow.
Thanks [sp] asshole [/sp]
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;47910060]this video made me realize i have PT tomorrow.
Thanks [sp] asshole [/sp][/QUOTE]
There's always hope...
There's always...the Sick Call Rangers™
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;47910150]There's always hope...
There's always...the Sick Call Rangers™[/QUOTE]
we call it sick bay commando in the navy.
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;47910386][img]http://www.johnsheppardcartoons.com/blog/comics/2012-02-07-INCOMING_SickCall.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
More like: "Take two Motrin pills, drink water, and go back to work."
whats sick bay commando
also, these things are what makes me realise that army for regular civilians is a joke. Constant screaming would just demotivate me from working out at all.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;47910060]this video made me realize i have PT tomorrow.
Thanks [sp] asshole [/sp][/QUOTE]
Your fault for not clicking both the like and subscribe buttons.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;47910060]this video made me realize i have PT tomorrow.
Thanks [sp] asshole [/sp][/QUOTE]
But if you sub and like to his videos he said you don't have to do PT.
[QUOTE=Dark RaveN;47913530]whats sick bay commando
also, these things are what makes me realise that army for regular civilians is a joke. Constant screaming would just demotivate me from working out at all.[/QUOTE]
Trust me, the screaming is as demotivating as it sounds...at least after Basic when the carefully constructed training walls come down and you're exposed to the 'real Army.' At that point you're like "...just shut the fuck up dude."
Speaking of basic don't let anyone tell you they're "too tough" or that they'd "laugh at the Drill Sergeants." They wouldn't, they're full of shit.
[QUOTE=HappyCompy;47918620]Trust me, the screaming is as demotivating as it sounds...at least after Basic when the carefully constructed training walls come down and you're exposed to the 'real Army.' At that point you're like "...just shut the fuck up dude."
Speaking of basic don't let anyone tell you they're "too tough" or that they'd "laugh at the Drill Sergeants." They wouldn't, they're full of shit.[/QUOTE]
yeah screaming is a no go out of basic unless we're in like full code blue/emergency mode/you're going to get someone killed, than yell the fuck away.
Its unprofessional. and does zero fuck all to motivate/correct someone. If you have to yell at someone to get them to do their job/be a good sailor/soldier, chances are they're DOA career wise with the current career climate, which inturns makes yelling at that person a waste of energy.
I haven't been yelled at since boot camp by someone in uniform. Our civilians will scream at us if they're having a bad day/over stupid shit because they can get away with things.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;47918662]yeah screaming is a no go out of basic unless we're in like full code blue/emergency mode/you're going to get someone killed, than yell the fuck away.
Its unprofessional. and does zero fuck all to motivate/correct someone. If you have to yell at someone to get them to do their job/be a good sailor/soldier, chances are they're DOA career wise with the current career climate, which inturns makes yelling at that person a waste of energy.
I haven't been yelled at since boot camp by someone in uniform. Our civilians will scream at us if they're having a bad day/over stupid shit [B]because they can get away with things[/B].[/QUOTE]
Bruh...DoD Civilians...some of them are the chillest people ever that crack jokes at the military's expense and give ZERO fucks about anything, and others are the most miserable pieces of shit you can find who abuse all day the fact that they're civilians and you can't scream back because you're a Joe/Sailor/Airman/Marine.
I am jealous of their beards, bellies, and civilian-ness though.
the issue with civilians is you cant fire them. or it takes an act of god. Similar to chaptering someone out, but you cant even play mickey mouse games with civilians. Literally nothing punitive your COC can do besides just document unprofessional behavior, to try to build a case to get rid of them to the higher echelon of your command.
We've had civilians call out for weeks straight because "I didnt want to work that shift"
The O-6s i work with are more cool, chill than the civies we hire. I think MTFs/Military Med could benefit greatly by getting rid of civilians, instead of forcing enlisted out. They cost 3x more, you cant control them, and they do 1/3rd of the work load.
/rant
Agreed 100%.
There would be little to no need for DoD Civilians if the military didn't force out its skilled servicemembers with its insistence on low pay, dumb shit, fuck fuck games, and overall shittiness that an intelligent, skilled person realizes just isn't worth dealing with.
I worked at a hospital as a corpsman along with civilian nurses. I never had a problem with them. They worked just as hard as we did.
When I reenlisted into the Army as a tank crewman the only civilian I saw was the dude who restocked the coke machines. :p
Most(all) of the stupidity and ridiculous bullshit I saw was in the Army.
Wait, what, even the grunts/recruits/men have to wear PT belts as well?
For us, its only the safety officers and warrant officers.
[QUOTE=Ignhelper;47921149]Wait, what, even the grunts/recruits/men have to wear PT belts as well?
For us, its only the safety officers and warrant officers.[/QUOTE]
Yes, it's considered part of the PT uniform.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;47918784]They cost 3x more,
[/QUOTE]
It's the exact opposite though. Civilian DoD employees don't get the GI Bill, or BAH or clothing allowances or a whole host of other shit. So while they have a higher base salary their overall expense to the DoD is less than that of a active duty service member. 47,000 civilian employees can replace 70,000 service personnel and save them nearly 20 billion dollars.
Source: [URL="http://archive.federaltimes.com/article/20140703/MGMT/307030009/CBO-Save-19B-by-replacing-70K-troops-civilians"]CBO[/URL]
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;47918784]the issue with civilians is you cant fire them. or it takes an act of god. Similar to chaptering someone out, but you cant even play mickey mouse games with civilians. Literally nothing punitive your COC can do besides just document unprofessional behavior, to try to build a case to get rid of them to the higher echelon of your command.
We've had civilians call out for weeks straight because "I didnt want to work that shift"
The O-6s i work with are more cool, chill than the civies we hire. I think MTFs/Military Med could benefit greatly by getting rid of civilians, instead of forcing enlisted out. They cost 3x more, you cant control them, and they do 1/3rd of the work load.
/rant[/QUOTE]
I just wanna say that in my mechanics shop the civillians are like fucking doctors with these trucks. They know quite literally everything, from machining down a crackshaft to rebuilding a transmission. The civvies in my shop are just absolutely awesome, but in the other shops they're lazy pieces of shit so I get where you're coming from
Man, this dude would be amazing if he could get his delivery down.
[QUOTE=breakyourfac;47926707]I just wanna say that in my mechanics shop the civillians are like fucking doctors with these trucks. They know quite literally everything, from machining down a crackshaft to rebuilding a transmission. The civvies in my shop are just absolutely awesome, but in the other shops they're lazy pieces of shit so I get where you're coming from[/QUOTE]
(I quoted you because i address this concern with rusty). But its the same, how are you guys expected to be doctors to your trucks out in the field if DOD civilians are taking up some of your slots, and the military is creating an environment where staying in, overall sucks (maybe not for you, but for the last few years its been a 12% pick up rate for E4 for my job specialty)
[QUOTE=-Rusty-;47921066]I worked at a hospital as a corpsman along with civilian nurses. [/QUOTE]
I do too, and 50% of them are good, 50% of them are shit. I wish all MTFs would switch to just military, but since so many people go through A/C-school and do 4 years and dip, you dont retain a lot of techs/HMs with good job experience, so they hire civilian nurses and techs with more job experience to fill the gap (we have only one 8483 HM at my command who has prior job experience with that NEC outside of my command, but his last command has a low demographic, so we have to train him on 90% of the stuff we do, because hes never been exposed to it outside of C-school). If they actually tried to maintain good HMs and techs, you wouldn't need to hire a civilian because no one else has enough experience in a certain specialty services. It also hurts our ability to maintain experienced shock trauma units if military techs HM (8483) aren't staying in long enough to get enough experience/exposure to be able to do well with those sort of cases/work ups. Only one HM/8483 in our department has scrubbed trauma/is experience in those 5 minute decision to incision sort of cases. If we all got deployed doing our NEC's job, it be the first time we'd be heavily exposed to that sort of work. [sp] at the same time, many boot HMs have found themselves in MAPARTs, leaning over a trauma victim for the first time alone thousands of times already [/sp]
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;47932766](I quoted you because i address this concern with rusty). But its the same, how are you guys expected to be doctors to your trucks out in the field if DOD civilians are taking up some of your slots, and the military is creating an environment where staying in, overall sucks (maybe not for you, but for the last few years its been a 12% pick up rate for E4 for my job specialty)
I do too, and 50% of them are good, 50% of them are shit. I wish all MTFs would switch to just military, but since so many people go through A/C-school and do 4 years and dip, you dont retain a lot of techs/HMs with good job experience, so they hire civilian nurses and techs with more job experience to fill the gap (we have only one 8483 HM at my command who has prior job experience with that NEC outside of my command, but his last command has a low demographic, so we have to train him on 90% of the stuff we do, because hes never been exposed to it outside of C-school). If they actually tried to maintain good HMs and techs, you wouldn't need to hire a civilian because no one else has enough experience in a certain specialty services. It also hurts our ability to maintain experienced shock trauma units if military techs HM (8483) aren't staying in long enough to get enough experience/exposure to be able to do well with those sort of cases/work ups. Only one HM/8483 in our department has scrubbed trauma/is experience in those 5 minute decision to incision sort of cases. If we all got deployed doing our NEC's job, it be the first time we'd be heavily exposed to that sort of work. [sp] at the same time, many boot HMs have found themselves in MAPARTs, leaning over a trauma victim for the first time alone thousands of times already [/sp][/QUOTE]
Because the civvies in my shop are all ace certified and they've been at this base for 10+ years so they're accustomed to how shit works and are buddy buddy with the stores we buy parts from.
The civvie at my job trains me more so to be a truck doctor than the 7 level staff sgt. It works nicely because the civvie and me just focus on work, there's no epr reports or him missing the first 2 hours of work because of pt
[QUOTE=-Rusty-;47913173]More like: "Take two Motrin pills, drink water, and go back to work."[/QUOTE]
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