Protest sparks Texas lawmaker threats of gun violence
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[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/fight-flee-texas-immigration-crackdown-47706234?cid=social_fb_abcn[/url]
[QUOTE]Hundreds of protesters opposing Texas' tough new anti-"sanctuary cities" law launched a raucous demonstration from the public gallery in the Texas House on Monday, briefly halting work and prompting lawmakers on the floor below to scuffle — and even threaten gun violence — as tense divides over hardline immigration policies boiled over.
Activists wearing red T-shirts reading "Lucha," or "Fight," quietly filled hundreds of gallery seats as proceedings began. After about 40 minutes, they began to cheer, drowning out the lawmakers below. Protesters also blew whistles and chanted: "Here to stay!" and "Hey, hey, ho, ho, SB4 has got to go," referring to the bill that Gov. Greg Abbott signed into law this month.
Some unfurled banners reading: "See you in court!" and "See you at the polls!"
State House leadership stopped the session and asked state troopers to clear the gallery. The demonstration continued for about 20 minutes as officers led people out of the chamber peacefully in small groups. There were no reports of arrests.
Texas' new law is reminiscent of a 2010 Arizona "show your papers" measure that allowed police to inquire about a person's immigration status during routine interactions such as traffic stops. It was eventually struck down in court.
A legislative session that began in January concluded Monday, and the day was supposed to be reserved for goofy group photos and sappy goodbyes. Lawmakers are constitutionally barred from approving most legislation on the last day.
But even after the protest ended, tensions remained high. Rep. Ramon Romero, a Democrat from Fort Worth, said he was standing with fellow Democratic Rep. Cesar Blanco of El Paso when Republican colleague Matt Rinaldi came over and said: "This is BS. That's why I called ICE."[/QUOTE]
TDLR
People protest with signs saying I am illegal and here to stay
Texas lawmaker calls ICE
Fights
[quote]"Hey, hey, ho, ho, SB4 has got to go,"[/quote]
This is the protesting version of starting an educational rap song with "My name is ___ and I'm here to say"
[QUOTE=Helix Snake;52288706]This is the protesting version of starting an educational rap song with "My name is ___ and I'm here to say"[/QUOTE]
Protestors need to come up with more badass chants...
Holding signs up advertising that you're not supposed to be in the country.
Certainly makes the job easier, I guess. :v:
Guess its sorta blurry to take sides, though, what gets me the most angry about this shit with the illegal immigrantion with ICE and etc. Its pretty much a way for the Republican lawmakers and politicians to get some votes for the next election from the "DE TOORK ER JOBS" base.
Tearing apart families to just get some votes. not saying Illegal immigration should happen, but the current situation of how we're handling it is BS.
[QUOTE=Uber22;52288720]Protestors need to come up with more badass chants...[/QUOTE]
Vietnam had the best protest chants
"Hey, Hey, LBJ, how many kids did you kill today?"
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52288731][media]https://twitter.com/MattRinaldiTX/status/869269896365998080[/media][/QUOTE]
fuck him up ramon
Its funny, I doubt any of them read SB4. Nothing in it is unconstitutional.
It prohibits a state or local agency from adopting policies of non-cooperation with federal immigration authorities.
And requires compliance with a valid detainer request from a jailer. Not an officer on the street.
Then it goes and protects victims of crime from detainer requests.
[url]http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/85R/billtext/pdf/SB00004F.pdf#navpanes=0[/url]
It does not require an officer verify someone's immigration status like the Arizona bill did.
[editline]29th May 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Swiket;52288773]fuck him up ramon[/QUOTE]
Violence will only get more violence. Is that really what you want?
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52288731][media]https://twitter.com/MattRinaldiTX/status/869269896365998080[/media][/QUOTE]
this is the most Texas thing i've ever read
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52288731][media]https://twitter.com/MattRinaldiTX/status/869269896365998080[/media][/QUOTE]
wow what a surprise, he already has a revenge fantasy where he murders someone. hes been waiting his whole life for this moment, and hes ready to pull the trigger as soon as he can.
standard conservative schlock.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;52289020]wow what a surprise, he already has a revenge fantasy where he murders someone. hes been waiting his whole life for this moment, and hes ready to pull the trigger as soon as he can.
standard conservative schlock.[/QUOTE]
It's living out a revenge fantasy when someone threatens you and you point out you can defend yourself?
Okeydoke....
Based off what we saw in Montana, I feel like Romero is in the wrong party.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;52289020]wow what a surprise, he already has a revenge fantasy where he murders someone. hes been waiting his whole life for this moment, and hes ready to pull the trigger as soon as he can.
standard conservative schlock.[/QUOTE]
So, instead of in my opinion rather politely telling the dude that he's armed and will shoot if he physically assaults him, would you rather he had kept it hidden, they get in an altercation, and actually have the situation escalate to using the damned thing?
Even though I highly disagree with calling ICE as I view it as an assault on the 1st amendment, I will agree that the way the two lawmakers of the Democrats were utter fools and brutes in their reaction. I don't want to see a contest of who did the worst, even if I view Matt Rinaldi's actions as the start of the fire, the two lawmakers added fuel instead of doing anything to douse it.
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;52289020]wow what a surprise, he already has a revenge fantasy where he murders someone. hes been waiting his whole life for this moment, and hes ready to pull the trigger as soon as he can.
standard conservative schlock.[/QUOTE]
If you had a revenge fantasy you would've let the dude attack you and then shot him. Carrying for self defense (especially when you're a politician (or someone that's a public target)) is not to fulfill a fantasy.
Haha that fucking headline. That's some scummy shit ABC.
[QUOTE=-nesto-;52289722]Haha that fucking headline. That's some scummy shit ABC.[/QUOTE]
It's the truth though?
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;52289020]wow what a surprise, he already has a revenge fantasy where he murders someone. hes been waiting his whole life for this moment, and hes ready to pull the trigger as soon as he can.
standard conservative schlock.[/QUOTE]
Yea he should just let himself get assaulted, right?
Get off your high horse, man.
[QUOTE=kijji;52289728]It's the truth though?[/QUOTE]
Heavily spun. Lawmaker threatens to shoot people!*
*because he was assaulted and had threats made against him
[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;52288731][media]https://twitter.com/MattRinaldiTX/status/869269896365998080[/media][/QUOTE]
do we have tape? because last time a "liberal" assaulted a conservative it didn't actually happen remotely like that.
Can we stop quoting AntiChrist please? Trying to read through that amount of stupid makes my brain hurt. :hammered:
[QUOTE=Swiket;52288773]fuck him up ramon[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Anti Christ;52289020]wow what a surprise, he already has a revenge fantasy where he murders someone. hes been waiting his whole life for this moment, and hes ready to pull the trigger as soon as he can.
standard conservative schlock.[/QUOTE]
Damn guys. You guys really are just contorting reality to fit your only own narrative.
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52293138]Damn guys. You guys really are just contorting reality to fit your only own narrative.[/QUOTE]
If they keep up this behavior they might be made moderators for a day.
[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52289457]Even though I highly disagree with calling ICE as I view it as an assault on the 1st amendment, I will agree that the way the two lawmakers of the Democrats were utter fools and brutes in their reaction. I don't want to see a contest of who did the worst, even if I view Matt Rinaldi's actions as the start of the fire, the two lawmakers added fuel instead of doing anything to douse it.[/QUOTE]
Last I checked, the first ammendment doesn't protect people who are here in the country illegally (AKA Foreign Criminals)
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52293144]Last I checked, the first ammendment doesn't protect people who are here in the country illegally (AKA Foreign Criminals)[/QUOTE]
Except they were protesters holding signs as a statement. Would you hose down anyone with a shirt displaying fire or run away screaming from a poster of a monster?
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52293144]Last I checked, the first ammendment doesn't protect people who are here in the country illegally (AKA Foreign Criminals)[/QUOTE]
[URL="http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/255281-yes-illegal-aliens-have-constitutional-rights"]Yes they do.
[/URL][QUOTE]In summary, the entire case of illegal aliens being covered by and protected by the Constitution has been settled law for 129 years and rests on one word: "person." It is the word "person" that connects the dots of "due process" and "equal protection" in the 14th Amendment to the U.S Constitution and it is those five words that make the Constitution of the United States and its 14th amendment the most important political document since the Magna Carta in all world history.
"Aliens," legal and illegal, have the full panoply of constitutional protections American citizens have with three exceptions: voting, some government jobs and gun ownership (and that is now in doubt) — Glenn Beck and others notwithstanding.
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[editline]30th May 2017[/editline]
Its interesting that you call them "foreign criminals" because the law considers it a civil matter. I'm not read up on law well enough to know if this is consistent with other legal violations but an interesting fact is that it lets them get around having to appoint an attorney if they can't afford one.
[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52293186]Except they were protesters holding signs as a statement. Would you hose down anyone with a shirt displaying fire or run away screaming from a poster of a monster?[/QUOTE]
I like how you equated someone calling the cops on someone holding up a sign saying they were breaking a law, to hosing somebody down, but aight.
If someone walked into the Texas senate with a shirt that said "I just committed x crime", then I think it would warrant a reasonable and lawful investigation of some sort.
[editline]31st May 2017[/editline]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;52293188][URL="http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/255281-yes-illegal-aliens-have-constitutional-rights"]Yes they do.
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[editline]30th May 2017[/editline]
Its interesting that you call them "foreign criminals" because the law considers it a civil matter. I'm not read up on law well enough to know if this is consistent with other legal violations but an interesting fact is that it lets them get around having to appoint an attorney if they can't afford one.[/QUOTE]
Whats your definition of "criminal"? Last I checked, someone entering our country illegally is a crime that faces deportation....
[QUOTE=Cyke Lon bee;52293259]
Whats your definition of "criminal"? Last I checked, someone entering our country illegally is a crime that faces deportation....[/QUOTE]
I wasn't saying you were wrong, I just thought it was an interesting characterization, considering the people charged with deporting these criminals don't bother with criminal court.
Technically speaking though it's not a crime to be in the United States illegally, but entering in an illegal manner (or entering after already being deported) could be a crime.
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