Why we have never detected intelligent life forms in space OR how i'm a fucking genius.
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The answer lies in Dyson Spheres.
For those who are uninformed, a Dyson sphere is a spherical construct built around a star.
[IMG]http://www.daviddarling.info/images/DysonSphere2.gif[/IMG]
It encloses the sun, essentially collecting its energy.
Now, why haven't we detected any intelligent extraterrestrial life? [I]Because we're looking in the wrong place.[/I] They're all [I]inside[/I], hiding along the inside the inner surface of the sphere, blacking out the star along with it. that's why we don't see/sense them.
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Infact, a quick check on wikipedia thaught me that a dyson sphere would most likely emit infared light, allowing us to detect them rather easily, as a pure infared light source emiting nothing else but infared light would be very easy to filter out and very strange.
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I think it's because we're looking in the wrong place too. However, my theory is that the aliens are the politicians on planet Earth.
You didn't invent the Dyson spheres.
Also, a solid shelled (as in perfect sphere) Dyson structure is near impossible to create, maintain, and use. It's more likely a Dyson net or something more practical would be used, meaning the star would still be detectable.
Hmmm... This reminds me of a thing I did one time.
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I think it has more to do with the fact that FTL communication is impossible without discovering ancient gateways built by a long-lost race of sentient starships with which they will eventually invade and ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL.
[QUOTE=L'ordinateur;24362159]Hmmm... This reminds me of a thing I did one time.[/QUOTE]
This reminds me of that Invader Zim episode where they captured planets to feed their dieing star
[QUOTE=michaeldim;24362156]Also, a solid shelled (as in perfect sphere) Dyson structure is near impossible to create, maintain, and use. It's more likely a Dyson net or something more practical would be used, meaning the star would still be detectable.[/QUOTE]
a perfectly enclosed space would trap all energy, a dyson net would allow more energy to escape. with sufficiently advanced material, the former would make more geometric sense.
also, a sphere is a very strong shape, structurally.
[QUOTE=Laissez!Laissez!Laissez!;24362062]The answer lies in Dyson Spheres.
For those who are uninformed, a Dyson sphere is a spherical construct built around a star.
[IMG]http://www.daviddarling.info/images/DysonSphere2.gif[/IMG]
It encloses the sun, essentially collecting its energy.
Now, why haven't we detected any intelligent extraterrestrial life? [I]Because we're looking in the wrong place.[/I] They're all [I]inside[/I], hiding along the inside the inner surface of the sphere, blacking out the star along with it. that's why we don't see/sense them.[/QUOTE]
Thread titles wrong, should be: "how I'm a retard and don't know about the black body radiation phenomena and that I don't know that life would be cooked alive in a dyson sphere that emits no light."
But mines is long winded.
Dyson triangles are stronger
[QUOTE=bravehat;24362237]Thread titles wrong, should be: "how I'm a retard and don't know about the black body radiation phenomena and that I don't know that life would be cooked alive in a dyson sphere that emits no light."
But mines is long winded.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say I was completely sober when I come up with my crackpot epiphanies.
They don't exist because God wills it.
[QUOTE=Laissez!Laissez!Laissez!;24362271]I didn't say I was completely sober when I come up with my crackpot epiphanies.[/QUOTE]
Nah nah you're 10 years old
[QUOTE=xxxkiller;24362124]Infact, a quick check on wikipedia thaught me that a dyson sphere would most likely emit radiation, allowing us to detect them rather easily, as a pure infared light source emiting nothing else but infared light would be very easy to filter out and very strange.[/QUOTE]
Indeed
You are not a genius and you are not the first person to think about Dyson Spheres.
That was an incredibly silly suggestion.
Dyson Sphere's always seemed like soft science fiction trying to be hard science. Something that large would literally require dozens if not hundreds of full planets worth material. Regardless of a race's technology level, that would require hundreds of years of labor to completely disassemble a planet and separate it's usable material from unusable material. Let alone the legendary levels of complexity associated with all the whole concept.
Yes, we're looking in the wrong place in this 4 billion novemdecillion cubic miles big universe.
[img]http://www.steamd.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/dyson_ball.jpg[/img]
oh sorry you said dyson [i]sphere[/i]
I was hoping this thread would be about vacuum cleaners.
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Ass ass fuck you ninja
I don't think you realize just how much energy they'd be trapping.
Unless the race's planet literally glows due to energy consumption, then I don't think they'd need a dyson sphere to solve their energy problems.
[QUOTE=Luxo;24362507]Dyson Sphere's always seemed like soft science fiction trying to be hard science. Something that large would literally require dozens if not hundreds of full planets worth material. Regardless of a race's technology level, that would require hundreds of years of labor to completely disassemble a planet and separate it's usable material from unusable material. Let alone the legendary levels of complexity associated with all the whole concept.[/QUOTE]
welcome to speculative engineering.
[img]http://www.uprightvacuumguide.com/images/truth-dyson.jpg[/img]
Suck the aliens up, clean their planet and bring them home to study.
No but I totally agree with your theory.
[QUOTE=Laissez!Laissez!Laissez!;24362062]
Now, why haven't we detected any intelligent extraterrestrial life? [I]Because we're looking in the wrong place.[/I] They're all [I]inside[/I], hiding along the inside the inner surface of the sphere, blacking out the star along with it. that's why we don't see/sense them.[/QUOTE]
Even if the star would be dark, it would have a gravitational field. This type of trapped star would be like a black hole. I suppose we could accidentally stumble upon one when looking for black holes so your "we're looking in the wrong place"-argument kinda falls there.
Or maybe we didn't find them because we barely see the planets, not to mention anything on them.
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Hell, we still don't know if there isn't a hidden life in our own solar system, for example on Europa.
[QUOTE=Laissez!Laissez!Laissez!;24362271]I didn't say I was completely sober when I come up with my crackpot epiphanies.[/QUOTE]
Don't go blaming drunkenness for your stupid (or crackpot as you put it) ideas!
[QUOTE=Laissez!Laissez!Laissez!;24362271]I didn't say I was completely sober when I come up with my crackpot epiphanies.[/QUOTE]
i miss the days when PUI was ban-on-sight.
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also, retardedness is not drunkenness
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