Kodak Announces a new Hybrid Super 8 Camera at CES - Polidicks

[img]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--OP1AceHn--/eict7anjfkmx094d7or0.jpg[/img] [quote]Kodak made the announcement today at CES. Industrial designer and Jawbone COO Yves Behar partnered with Kodak to bring the modern relic to life. The cameras feature an integrated microphone, digital viewfinder, and lots of connectivity options like USB cable and SD slots—which definitely didn’t exist in Super 8’s glory days.[/quote] [quote]Kodak chief Jeff Clarke told the Wall Street Journal that the film will cost $50 to $75 a cartridge, and the camera itself will set you back $400 to $750. After processing, you’ll also have two options for media: either digital copies of your home movies or 8-millimeter film you can put in a projector.[/quote] [quote]No word yet on the precise pricing, but Kodak’s site says the new-old Super 8 cameras will be out this fall.[/quote] [url=http://gizmodo.com/kodak-reveals-a-digital-super-8-camera-that-records-on-1751229439]**SOURCE**[/url] Much less hyped about the camera which costs a fortune but the fact that it [i]should[/i] become easier to purchase and have NEW Super 8 film developed (yay! No more expired mysteries that may or may not turn out!) means that so long as they stay loyal to the original cartridge it means you can use just about any camera made.

Wait didn't Kodak basically die?

[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;49465388]Wait didn't Kodak basically die?[/QUOTE] They shed a lot of assets and sold a lot of patents but amazingly they aren't dead, yet.

I want one. Can I have one?

[QUOTE=OmniConsUme;49465388]Wait didn't Kodak basically die?[/QUOTE] AFAIK they emerged from bankruptcy to serve commercial consumers as they still do provide film for movie studios.

[QUOTE=pentium;49465401]They shed a lot of assets and sold a lot of patents but amazingly they aren't dead, yet.[/QUOTE] We observe the rare and majestic corporate creature emerging from its protective cocoon.

I wanna see some footage from the thing. You can *technically* make good images with 8mm cameras but most of them are pieces of shit by design so the film usually doesn't come out as well as it could. If it can capture good film at 720pish equivalent (8mm is roughly equal to 720p I believe) then it could actually be a viable option for short films and not just a gimmick camera.

[QUOTE=pentium;49465401]They shed a lot of assets and sold a lot of patents but amazingly they aren't dead, yet.[/QUOTE] They even got rid of their nuclear reactor :(

Ooooohhhh. I like, I like. Wouldn't mind snagging me one of these for use as a dash cam if the FOV can be configured to [i]not[/i] be fisheyed as all hell.

[QUOTE=TestECull;49466331]Ooooohhhh. I like, I like. Wouldn't mind snagging me one of these for use as a dash cam if the FOV can be configured to [i]not[/i] be fisheyed as all hell.[/QUOTE] It's $50 for a two-minute cartridge. That'd be an expensive dashcam.

[QUOTE=woolio1;49466369]It's $50 for a two-minute cartridge. That'd be an expensive dashcam.[/QUOTE] MY understanding is that itt'l output digitally as well, IE I don't need to use the cartridges to record. Kinda like a 'modern and not, both are okay' deal. It's got USB and SD slots, so surely it can record to them as well, and it isn't like putting a decent 1080p60 camera system in alongside a film camera is going to be difficult given the miniaturization necessary to put such cameras in smartphones.

Ah, nifty. I won't claim to understand how that works, though, since both light-sensitive materials need light to shine on them to work, and there's only one lens and one focal plane.

[QUOTE=TestECull;49466331]Ooooohhhh. I like, I like. Wouldn't mind snagging me one of these for use as a dash cam if the FOV can be configured to [i]not[/i] be fisheyed as all hell.[/QUOTE] This thing is massive, as in, far too big to be a dashcam.

[QUOTE=woolio1;49466396]Ah, nifty. I won't claim to understand how that works, though, since both light-sensitive materials need light to shine on them to work, and there's only one lens and one focal plane.[/QUOTE] Use a prism to split the source. It's how triple pickup cameras work.

Am gonna shoot the new Things on this: [video=youtube;PiqSuC8KkNU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiqSuC8KkNU[/video]

I'm hyped for the resurgence of 8mm. I have an old Minolta I've been dying to use

Question from a know-nothing in photography, what is the big difference about 8mm vs digital?

[QUOTE=Useful Dave;49468145]Question from a know-nothing in photography, what is the big difference about 8mm vs digital?[/QUOTE] Digital footage looks a lot nicer, cleaner, sharper, more accurate etc. But Super8 and other analog formats "feel" nicer and have a nostalgic edge to them which people love. It's expensive as all heck to buy, use and get processed. If you have the money, it's a nice gimmick. I'm more interested in the camera itself, than the format it shoots. It seems neat.

I just wish 35mm would come back in [I]some[/I] way. Shit I still want a digital module I can put on an 35mm camera. Too bad such things are pipe dreams and eveyrone who tries to make one never gets funding.

[QUOTE=TestECull;49466331]Ooooohhhh. I like, I like. Wouldn't mind snagging me one of these for use as a dash cam if the FOV can be configured to [i]not[/i] be fisheyed as all hell.[/QUOTE] Why not use a dashcam?

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49468200]I just wish 35mm would come back in [I]some[/I] way.[/QUOTE] some movies are still shot on film man, it hasn't left yet [editline]6th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=pentium;49465375]Much less hyped about the camera which costs a fortune[/QUOTE] Since when is between $400 and $750 an expensive camera

[QUOTE=Useful Dave;49468145]Question from a know-nothing in photography, what is the big difference about 8mm vs digital?[/QUOTE] Super 8 was the low-cost product for families to film events in the days before the camcorder was affordable. The quality is not as good as say 16mm and nowhere near 35mm but it was really cheap both to buy and have developed. Your grandparents and possibly your parents used Super 8 at one point in their lives. These days because of the color process and special cartridge the film is loaded into at the factory it's generally quite expensive and very few places still develop the film. Whenever I shoot a pack I have to ship to a lab in Niagara, some 3500km away. Before this announcement a lot of people were still using unused film that had been stored in freezers for decades to lengthen its life but Kodak did recently restart production of Super 8 Tri-X film albeit you had to order it in commercial volume which was horribly expensive.

Huh, my Dad works at Kodak, in the printing department but he's still there even after all the layoffs. I'll have to ask them about this. I was always under the impression they got out of the camera business for good.

[QUOTE=Eric95;49468578]some movies are still shot on film man, it hasn't left yet [/QUOTE] I mean 35mm photography. Almost nobody processes film in house anymore. I just want some company to show my autoreflex tc some love.

This is pretty good news, hopefully 8mm and other film formats will continue a resurgence as an artistic option. Plenty of artists still use film, but the industry fell apart because it was built to supply billions of people with film, not just the few million left today. It's steadily making a comeback, though. An Italian film manufacturer, Ferrania, recently got funding through kickstarter to resurrect their film production plant in a greatly reduced size. [editline]6th January 2016[/editline] Perhaps this could be the start of Kodak producing cheap film/digital hybrid cameras, like modern-day brownies.

[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;49469191]I mean 35mm photography. Almost nobody processes film in house anymore. I just want some company to show my autoreflex tc some love.[/QUOTE] Yeah, few places process film now. I do like [URL="https://thedarkroom.com/"]The Dark Room[/URL] out in California, though. They do an absolutely fantastic job with 35mm film.