International Criminal Court Calls For Afghanistan War Crimes Investigation - Polidicks

[quote]he prosecutor of the International Criminal Court is calling for an investigation into possible war crimes and crimes against humanity in Afghanistan. The scope of such an investigation isn't clear, but it [B]could have the potential to involve U.S. troops.[/B] Fatou Bensouda said in a statement that she has decided to request authorization to open a formal investigation. [B]ICC judges would then decide whether the situation meets the court's criteria.[/B] Pentagon spokesman Eric Pahon told NPR: [B]"Our view is clear: An ICC investigation with respect to U.S. personnel would be wholly unwarranted and unjustified.[/B] More broadly, our overall assessment is that commencement of an ICC investigation will not serve the interests of either peace or justice in Afghanistan." Bensouda said the court's jurisdiction for crimes committed in Afghanistan extends to May 1, 2003.[/quote] [url]http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/03/561842662/icc-prosecutor-calls-for-afghanistan-war-crimes-investigation[/url]

jesus its been 14 years and they want an investigation now? better late than never i guess

[QUOTE]Our view is clear: An ICC investigation with respect to U.S. personnel would be wholly unwarranted and unjustified.[/QUOTE] Clearly the U.S. soldiers are [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse"]infallible[/URL] so don't worry about it.

It's pretty known that the coalition killed civilians in the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts just for the fun of it from time to time. You will find this in any war throughout history, you get good soldiers and bad, but unfortunately through the "killing machine" training methods the US marines like to use, it's probably becoming more of a problem.

[QUOTE]Pentagon / Our view is clear: An ICC investigation with respect to U.S. personnel would be wholly unwarranted and unjustified. [/QUOTE] Why would an ICC investigation to U.S. personnel be wholly unwarranted and unjustified?

[QUOTE=Faunze;52854787]It's pretty known that the coalition killed civilians in the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts just for the fun of it from time to time. You will find this in any war throughout history, you get good soldiers and bad, but unfortunately through the "killing machine" training methods the US marines like to use, it's probably becoming more of a problem.[/QUOTE] A lot of the stories of civillians getting gunned down for fun come from PMC's I thought? I could be wrong. [editline]4th November 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Techno Grub;52855335]Why would an ICC investigation to U.S. personnel be wholly unwarranted and unjustified?[/QUOTE] Because the ICC has no jurisdiction over the USA

[QUOTE=Native Hunter;52855452]A lot of the stories of civillians getting gunned down for fun come from PMC's I thought? I could be wrong. [editline]4th November 2017[/editline] Because the ICC has no jurisdiction over the USA[/QUOTE] Not as much but that doesn't mean they don't do it more, the government, and so the news, don't particularly like speaking about the presence in those places from what I can see, except when someone busts a story.

[QUOTE=Native Hunter;52855452]Because the ICC has no jurisdiction over the USA[/QUOTE] No I know that, I just don't see why an investigation into violations committed by U.S. would be "wholly unwarranted/unjustified" when it's not wholly unreasonable to assume that the U.S. troops were involved in some unnecessarily bad shit which nobody got charged for.

[QUOTE=Techno Grub;52855725]No I know that, I just don't see why an investigation into violations committed by U.S. would be "wholly unwarranted/unjustified" when it's not wholly unreasonable to assume that the U.S. troops were involved in some unnecessarily bad shit which nobody got charged for.[/QUOTE] If I had to guess such statements are just defensive rebuttals from the Pentagon, using our position as World Police/Former World Police to try and say that we did nothing wrong etc etc, plus the whole ICC not having any hold on us. Just Pentagon pandering trying to discredit the ICC, rather poorly at that.

Just saying that although it's deff not perfect, the US also prosecutes for warcrimes inside the military and in the Marines at least, learning of several of the warcrimes, why they happened and what happened to the perpetrators is part of training. Doesn't stop everyone from going "haha he pissed on haji corpses what a fucking badass" but the opinion isn't changing whether the ICC is prosecuting or the UCMJ.