In the end, there's no such thing as "evil/wrong" or "good/right"?
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Well, after studying and reading about logic and philosophy, I came over to the conclusion that stating that there's something right or wrong implies there's a creator behind it. As some may agree, everything that has order, in this case, a set of actions that are right or wrong, means it has been ordered towards a goal (IE, you order your house in order to keep it clean and things accesible, etc etc). Besides implying there's a creator, it opens a new question: How do we know what's right and what's wrong? Utilitarists say that what's right is what does good to us and that what's wrong is what does bad to us. Catholics hold that there's a "moral detector" in everyone that allows people to find out if they are doing something wrong and that the more they sin the more "dysfunctional" the "detector" becomes. And others like Marx ended up throwing it all away and saying it's just a mere creation of our system.
Now, many philosophers through history ended up thinking that there was no order in nature (Kant, among them) and that everything was a projection of our minds, though, they also ended up claiming there's a moral order (Kant, again, among them). You see, arguing that there's something right always leads to a using a....how to say it? "External Factor". Let me give you an example:
-There's nothing wrong with killing animals and contaminating the atmosphere
-But, wouldn't it threaten our existence and life as we know it? <- From where do we get the idea that is wrong to threaten existence/lives? My answer: It has been indoctrinated into society.
Problem is, if that's the case, that there's nothing wrong or right, then what would be the problem in, let's say, killing a couple millions just for your ends? Want to burn some heathens because it strengthens your power? Fine, then do it.
My posture in this whole mess?: That there's actually nothing wrong or right, it just a matter of power and fighting, whoever manages to impose it's view via strength (As it will always be. In 1400 AD you couldn't make a secular state because people held that god actually gave power to rulers via heritage) "wins".
It's has been driving me mad since I started to think about it. No evil/good -> Do whatever you want. Evil/Good -> How do we know? -> Do whatever you want.
EDIT: Before mods proceed to ban me, I believe that no "evidence" or "proof" and be included/added to this, as it's just pure words and thoughts.
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