U.S. Navy helps to seize nearly 5,000 pounds of cocaine
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[QUOTE]The hammer of the U.S. Navy came down on a group of drug smugglers off the coast of Panama when sailors teamed up with other U.S. law enforcement agencies to seize nearly 5,000 pounds of cocaine, worth about $360 million.
Last Friday’s seizure was part of Operation Martillo,which is Spanish for hammer.
According to a U.S. Southern Command news release, a U.S. Customs and Border Protection plane spotted two “fast boats” off the coast of Panama filled with bales assumed to be drugs. The plane radioed the USS Elrod, a Navy frigate on station nearby. The Elrod sent a Sea Hawk helicopter to chase the boats.
With the helicopter, a U.S. navy frigate and Panamanian authorities on their tails, the people in the boats threw the drugs overboard and made a run for it.
The Elrod arrived in the area where the drugs were ditched and launched some small boats to recover the drugs.
All told, they found 89 bales filled with cocaine, but the boats that were carrying them and the people on board escaped.
The drugs will now be turned over to the U.S. Department of Justice.[/QUOTE]
Source: [url]http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/04/27/u-s-navy-helps-to-seize-nearly-5000-pounds-of-cocaine/[/url]
Goddammit. Decent coke is hard enough to find around here.
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Wait wait wait, why is it "Operation Martillo" and not "[I]Operación[/I] Martillo?"
Furthermore why the fuck Martillo and not Mazo (Gavel, or Justice Maul)?
Come the fuck on, Navy, you're in Panama and the best you can come up with is "Hammer?"
[QUOTE=Lankist;35740018]Wait wait wait, why is it "Operation Martillo" and not "[I]Operación[/I] Martillo?"
Furthermore why the fuck Martillo and not Mazo (Gavel, or Justice Maul)?
Come the fuck on, Navy, you're in Panama and the best you can come up with is "Hammer?"[/QUOTE]
Why do you think Spanish would be their strong point?
uhh they're in panama thats why
Operación: Folladas Perras Cocaína
Operación: Maldita, Mira Esta Mierda
Operación: Transportarnos, Pagarnos
The possibilities are endless.
shut the FUCK UP lankist nobody cares
[QUOTE=Kalibos;35740069]shut the FUCK UP lankist nobody cares[/QUOTE]
okay
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[QUOTE=Lankist;35740056]uhh they're in panama thats why
Operación: Folladas Perras Cocaína
Operación: Maldita, Mira Esta Mierda
Operación: Transportarnos, Pagarnos
The possibilities are endless.[/QUOTE]
Don't worry, the military has never come up with an interesting name for an operation.
Thought, Operation Overlord sounds pretty cool for D-Day
[QUOTE=Lankist;35740056]uhh they're in panama thats why
Operación: Folladas Perras Cocaína
Operación: Maldita, Mira Esta Mierda
Operación: Transportarnos, Pagarnos
The possibilities are endless.[/QUOTE]
Or at least pretend they know spanish
operacion el cocaino
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[QUOTE=Kalibos;35740069]shut the FUCK UP lankist nobody cares[/QUOTE]
Why are you always so grouchy
[QUOTE=Lankist;35740056]uhh they're in panama thats why
Operación: Folladas Perras Cocaína
Operación: Maldita, Mira Esta Mierda
Operación: Transportarnos, Pagarnos
The possibilities are endless.[/QUOTE]
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"Red Nose One, this is Overdose Two, do you visual?"
*sigh*
I really have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I really dislike the US military being used as a police force.
On the other hand, I would like to see the US military being used to combat the drug cartels hurting people in Central and South America.
The problem is that our interests seem to end at stopping the drug flow north. We don't actually provide the scale of aid necessary to restore order to Central and South America.
[QUOTE=GunFox;35740373]*sigh*
I really have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I really dislike the US military being used as a police force.
On the other hand, I would like to see the US military being used to combat the drug cartels hurting people in Central and South America.
The problem is that our interests seem to end at stopping the drug flow north. We don't actually provide the scale of aid necessary to restore order to Central and South America.[/QUOTE]
What do you suggest we use? Civilian Volunteer Sea-Police? We all know how well that works.
[img]http://www.globalanimal.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Sea-Shepherd-Conservation-Society-Saves-The-Steve-Irwin.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=GunFox;35740373]*sigh*
I really have mixed feelings about this. On one hand, I really dislike the US military being used as a police force.
On the other hand, I would like to see the US military being used to combat the drug cartels hurting people in Central and South America.
The problem is that our interests seem to end at stopping the drug flow north. We don't actually provide the scale of aid necessary to restore order to Central and South America.[/QUOTE]
I don't think there's any other kind of police force that could really deal with this stuff, to be honest.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;35740483]I don't think there's any other kind of police force that could really deal with this stuff, to be honest.[/QUOTE]
Police operate in a jurisdiction.
These jurisdictions exist because the people in them elect the government, who in turn controls the police. The position of Sheriff is even an elected position in most cases in the United States.
I mention this because this is fundamental to our belief's surrounding government. The government is a contract between the people and itself wherein the people provide it power in return for all the benefits it provides over anarchy or totalitarianism.
Soooo when you have a law enforcement agency enforcing things over the ocean against citizens of another nation aboard other boats that are unlikely to even be heading directly for your country (fast boats likely lack the range to reach the US from Panama) we have a serious problem. This undermines the single most important pin in our country.
Furthermore we go to great lengths to never use our military as a police force domestically up to and including making the CIA and the FBI two separate organizations (intelligence, and counter intelligence) as a method of avoiding military backed government police.
The list just goes on and on. This isn't us. This isn't what the country is supposed to be doing. It isn't even what that frigate is designed to do. Or the Seahawk. Seahawks are designed to hunt submarines, not perform bullshit drug interdiction.
If we, as a society, decided that drugs/or the instability in the region, were sufficiently dangerous to us, then use the military as the military. Sink their boats. Kill their members. Bomb their manufacturing plants. IF THIS IS DISTASTEFUL then they aren't [I]really[/I] that much of a threat and we have no business being there at all, now do we?
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[QUOTE=Falineir;35740418]What do you suggest we use? Civilian Volunteer Sea-Police? We all know how well that works.
[img]http://www.globalanimal.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Sea-Shepherd-Conservation-Society-Saves-The-Steve-Irwin.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
Either it is a matter deemed important enough to use the military, in which case they show up AS THE MILITARY with no bullshit pretense about enforcing the law, but rather to carry out a treaty. Warn whaling vessels once to leave the area, whaling vessels met again are scuttled through whatever armaments are most convenient without regard for human life. Pick up the survivors and return them to Japan or wherever they come from. No arrests or trials. None necessary. They are unlikely to board another vessel to whale again and the US military isn't a police agency. Enemy combatants are returned to their home nations at the conclusion of the conflict. In this case the conflict is over because their boat is at the bottom of the ocean.
Or if this is unpleasant, then whaling isn't really a serious problem to you and the military is not the solution.
Why are we still wasting money on the drug war
Good for them. The cartels have probably already made another five thousand pounds to replace it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Smartass;35741029]Why are we still wasting money on the drug war[/QUOTE]
Because a hugely wealthy band of criminals with heavy weapons and apparently very little humanity is standing on your doorstep and I don't doubt that one day they'll be able to start jeopardising the lives of your countrymen.
[QUOTE=Mlisen14;35741081]Because a hugely wealthy band of criminals with heavy weapons and apparently very little humanity is standing on your doorstep and I don't doubt that one day they'll be able to start jeopardising the lives of your countrymen.[/QUOTE]
A group of hugely wealthy criminals who make all of their money exploiting the fact that drugs are illegal. The drug war keeps food on their tables and rounds in their guns.
[QUOTE=Lankist;35740018]Wait wait wait, why is it "Operation Martillo" and not "[I]Operación[/I] Martillo?"
Furthermore why the fuck Martillo and not Mazo (Gavel, or Justice Maul)?
Come the fuck on, Navy, you're in Panama and the best you can come up with is "Hammer?"[/QUOTE]
Hey, miren que retrasar i google se puede traducir también!
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;35741102]A group of hugely wealthy criminals who make all of their money exploiting the fact that drugs are illegal. The drug war keeps food on their tables and rounds in their guns.[/QUOTE]
it's not like they'll just stop if drugs are legalized
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they'll start doing other things probably, like black market firearms or something
[QUOTE=ButtsexV3;35741195]it's not like they'll just stop if drugs are legalized
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they'll start doing other things probably, like black market firearms or something[/QUOTE]
More people want drugs than guns, so they'd lose a significant amount of money and power. They wouldn't go away, no, but they'd be greatly weakened.
Someone say Panama?
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[QUOTE=mugofdoom;35741219]More people want drugs than guns, so they'd lose a significant amount of money and power. They wouldn't go away, no, but they'd be greatly weakened.[/QUOTE]
Also a lot of people want guns to protect their drugs.
[QUOTE=killover;35741474]Also a lot of people want guns to protect their drugs.[/QUOTE]
That's mainly because they're illegal.
Personally, I want drugs to protect my guns.
[QUOTE=Mlisen14;35741081]Because a hugely wealthy band of criminals with heavy weapons and apparently very little humanity is standing on your doorstep and I don't doubt that one day they'll be able to start jeopardising the lives of your countrymen.[/QUOTE]
Wouldn't it be easier to legalize what they're selling, tax the everliving hell out of it, and then make them go bankrupt? It obviously won't solve everything, but it'd be a step in the right direction.
[QUOTE=mugofdoom;35741514]That's mainly because they're illegal.
Personally, I want drugs to protect my guns.[/QUOTE]
How's that work? Vents that spray anesthetics and sedatives when someone breaks into the gun room?
Funny thing is.... The U.S. Navy weren't probably the ones that actually did the seizing. Navy boats usually carry a U.S. Coast Guard LEDET (Law Enforcement Detachment Teams) when things like this happen. Department of Defense personnel CANNOT enforce U.S. Laws and Regulations, but the Coast Guard (Department of Homeland Security) can. They mainly do this when there are operations that are out of range of Coast Guard cutters. But Cutters routinely make busts like these just off shore of U.S. waters. I've seen an article of a drug bust that my friend in the Coast Guard was involved in and all I saw was U.S. Navy in it. Was a lil butthurt, but whatever. We're all on the same team.
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