• Florida man shoots teen to death over loud music
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[QUOTE]A Florida gun collector has pleaded not guilty to a murder charge alleging that he opened fire on a car full of unarmed teenagers, killing one, in an altercation that police say stemmed from loud music. Michael David Dunn, 45, acted "as any responsible firearms owner would have," his lawyer said of the Friday evening incident at a gas station outside a convenience store in Jacksonville, Fla. Dunn and his girlfriend were in Jacksonville for his son's wedding when they pulled up in their car next to the teens. Police allege that while the girlfriend was in the store, Dunn told Jordan Russell Davis, 17, and his three friends to turn down their music. "It was loud," Jacksonville homicide Lt. Rob Schoonover said of the teens' music. "They admitted that. That's not a reason for someone to open fire." After an exchange of words, Dunn began shooting with a handgun, Schoonover said. "Nobody else in that vehicle was struck; it was just our victim [Davis], which was lucky because the vehicle was shot eight or nine times," Schoonover said. Davis was in the back seat and was struck twice, reported The Orlando Sentinel. Dunn and his girlfriend drove off and spent the night at their hotel, according to Schoonover, but witnesses took down his license plate number. Police arrested him Saturday morning at his home in Satellite Beach, Fla., on one charge of murder and three charges of attempted murder. "His side of the story is he felt threatened and that is the reason he took action," Schoonover said. On Monday, Dunn — a gun collector who shot at local gun ranges, according to authorities — pleaded not guilty in Brevard County court, with his attorney describing his actions as self-defense. Stay informed with the latest headlines; sign up for our newsletter "Once all the facts come out, that what really happened is known, it will be very clear that Mr. Dunn acted responsibly and as any responsible firearms owner would have acted under these same circumstances," said his attorney, Robin Lemonidis, reported FirstCoastNews.com, the website for NBC station WTLV in Jacksonville. Dunn's 20-year-old daughter, Rebecca, told FirstCoastNews.com, "he just reacted," adding that his family was rallying behind him. Jacksonville Sheriff's Office Michael Dunn is accused of the shooting death of Jordan Davis. "Everyone in his life loves him and everyone who met him, all of my friends are praying for him," she said. Dunn, who had been in Brevard County Jail after his arrest, was transferred back to Duval County, where the shooting happened, on Tuesday. His girlfriend won't face any charges. "When she came out [of the convenience store], she asked him, 'What's going on?'" Schoonover said. "Supposedly his statement was, 'I just fired at these kids.' I don't know if he knew that he struck anyone in the vehicle. The next morning, I guess when they woke up in the hotel and saw on the news that someone was killed, that's when they got in their car and fled."[/QUOTE] [url]http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/28/15513847-florida-man-pleads-not-guilty-to-shooting-teen-to-death-over-loud-music?lite[/url] [IMG]http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/121128-DUNN-MICHAEL-DAVID-mug.380;380;7;70;0.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/jordan-davis.jpg[/IMG]
[quote] acted "as any responsible firearms owner would have,"[/quote] Bull Shit
Bullshit, if he was so justified why did he run? Little bastard makes law-abiding gun owners look bad and the lawyer should be ashamed of himself.
[quote]Michael David Dunn, 45, acted "as any responsible firearms owner would have," his lawyer said[/quote] Ha. Ha. Ha. No.
I feel awful for the attorney who has to cooperate with this unforgivable ass, let alone defend him.
I'm moving to Florida next year... I'm terrified with all this people killing each other over dumb shit.
"My neighbors love this song so much they invited the cops"
[QUOTE=barttool;38647301]I'm moving to Florida next year... I'm terrified with all this people killing each other over dumb shit.[/QUOTE] It's not bad over here, depending where you live. Some places are quiet and peaceful, other places are obnoxious and terrible to live. A good example would be Miami, dirty and crazy.
Oh god let's hope this doesn't turn into another Zimmerman case. Anyway, this guy must be absolutely insane. I'm surprised he wasn't arrested for something similar earlier in his life if something such as "loud music" would cause him to snap like this.
Media will jump on this shit in seconds, but it's very clear that the gunman is in the wrong here. Also he looks like my programming teacher...
complain about loud music respond with even louder bullets ???
dem lips
[QUOTE=Darkne55;38647381]dem lips[/QUOTE] That's not really relevant.
Anti-gun advocates are going to have a field day. Good job fucking it up for the rest of us, pal.
[QUOTE=barttool;38647301]I'm moving to Florida next year... I'm terrified with all this people killing each other over dumb shit.[/QUOTE] I'm not dead yet, you're good.
[QUOTE=Yogkog;38647327]Oh god let's hope this doesn't turn into another Zimmerman case. Anyway, this guy must be absolutely insane. I'm surprised he wasn't arrested for something similar earlier in his life if something such as "loud music" would cause him to snap like this.[/QUOTE] Nah won't be Zimmerman tier. With that case there is some actual controversy this is just ridiculously clear cut that the shooter is retarded and going to prison
[QUOTE=MR-X;38647284]Bullshit, if he was so justified why did he run? Little bastard makes law-abiding gun owners look bad and the lawyer should be ashamed of himself.[/QUOTE] When most people think they're going to be implicated of something, regardless if they're innocent or not, they tend to run. It's extremely common for people to get into accidents, run someone over, and try to run and hide. This of course makes them look guilty and on purpose, so it's a terrible idea. I'm not saying what this guy did was OK by [i]any[/i] standards, but so many people panic in situations like this your statement is quite confounding.
[quote]Michael David Dunn, 45, acted "as any responsible firearms owner would have," his lawyer said [/quote] The only reason you ever need to take out your gun is for self defense you twat.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;38647640]When most people think they're going to be implicated of something, regardless if they're innocent or not, they tend to run. It's extremely common for people to get into accidents, run someone over, and try to run and hide. This of course makes them look guilty and on purpose, so it's a terrible idea. I'm not saying what this guy did was OK by [i]any[/i] standards, but so many people panic in situations like this your statement is quite confounding.[/QUOTE] There is nothing confusing about my statement. Yes I know people get scared and run, it happens. Fight or flight, I'm very much aware that most people run due to being scared. Any fucking sane person who has a CHL or carries a firearm legally knows that if you brandish or discharge a weapon - specially like this guy. You need to stick around for the police or at least get to a safe area and notify them immediately. If people get in accidents and know it was a accident they don't run, most people who have a brain realize if the event was unintentional and the circumstances behind that event had nothing to do being neglectful, stupid, etc and was just shitty luck people stick around. Running as you said does not always mean guilty, most of the time it means stupid. But I'm talking about this specific case...he had no reason to run and being scared isn't a legitimate argument. The asshole shot a bunch of unarmed kids playing music and fled the scene..he knew he committed a crime and is trying to hide behind it "I had to protect myself" - protect himself from what.. What this did guy had to be afraid of if he was armed and in his own car? Only thing he is doing right now is shitting himself because he just murdered a kid.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38647254]Bull Shit[/QUOTE] Respectable, good, all American man! :downs: I think he watched too much of this [thumb]http://content.internetvideoarchive.com/content/photos/7691/64534_231.jpg[/thumb] even though "god bless america" [I]kind of[/I] has a point it goes very much against the fact that it's purely satire to actually reenact it.
apparently the guy was a CEO of a successful IT firm too (IIRC)
[QUOTE=Ninja Duck;38647710]The only reason you ever need to take out your gun is for self defense you twat.[/QUOTE] Shooter claimed to have "Feeling Threatened." Then again, report also said the teenagers were unarmed and whatnot, the guy just really wanted to feel like he was in power of a younger generation. Now the younger Generation can rape his ass in prison, fucking bitch.
I'm not surprised. I live in Jacksonville and this kind of stuff happens all the time.
[QUOTE=barttool;38647301]I'm moving to Florida next year... I'm terrified with all this people killing each other over dumb shit.[/QUOTE] That's how I feel. I'm moving to Orlando, Florida early next year. Which is where this took place :v: Hopefully I don't run into anything similar. Anyway, everything in this case is quite evident.
[QUOTE=Trooper-guy1;38647952]That's how I feel. I'm moving to Orlando, Florida early next year. Which is where this took place :v: Hopefully I don't run into anything similar. Anyway, everything in this case is quite evident.[/QUOTE] As every other Florida guy here has said, don't worry, you're statistically very unlikely to wind up dead. I've been living here my whole life, not too much violence has been done on me. I just wonder what would be going through someones head when that happens, "teenagers playing loud music, I'll show em', by shooting them!"
stand your ground [editline]30th November 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Rebi;38648027]As every other Florida guy here has said, don't worry, you're statistically very unlikely to wind up dead. I've been living here my whole life, not too much violence has been done on me. I just wonder what would be going through someones head when that happens, "teenagers playing loud music, I'll show em', by shooting them!"[/QUOTE] my father lives in florida, and i visit frequently. a friend of the family was picked up and gang raped at gunpoint by a bunch of white hicks, beaten half to death, and dropped off on the highway. another family friend was in a fast food joint when another (white) nutter shot up the place and injured a bunch of black kids who yelled back at him when he called them niggers. killed one of them. florida is a fucking awful place, and the stories that you hear about the state are very indicative of the general gun culture of the state. it's not a bunch of bullshit, it's regular, and its ingrained in the culture. guns are really prevalent, and it's not just gang violence anymore. don't get me wrong, that shit is all over the place too, especially in miami and orlando. [editline]30th November 2012[/editline] there's signs all over the roads that have been shot up because people find it entertaining to do so. i'm sorry but the "responsible gun owners" that you guys think about are not the overwhelming majority at all most of them (esp in florida) do the absolute dumbest shit imaginable
Guns are too empowering in the wrong hands. They allow [del]people[/del] cowards to follow through on irrational thoughts or reactions by simply pulling a trigger. Scenarios like this worry me...
That's some bad shooting for a gun collector
[QUOTE=Trooper-guy1;38647952]That's how I feel. I'm moving to Orlando, Florida early next year. Which is where this took place :v: Hopefully I don't run into anything similar. Anyway, everything in this case is quite evident.[/QUOTE] This took place in Jacksonville. I live in Melbourne, which is about an hour away from Orlando, and I've been to Orlando tons, it's not that bad, but just like any other place it depends exactly where you are.
[quote]Michael David Dunn, 45, acted "as any responsible firearms owner would have," his lawyer said[/quote] I don't think I could ever say this with a straight face
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