GOP rep: ‘Bullcrap’ to say taxpayers pay my salary - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Rep. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.) faced off with constituents at a town hall this week, telling the members of the audience that they don't pay his salary. "You say you pay for me to do this? That’s bullcrap," Mullin said at the town hall in Jay, Okla., according to a video of the incident. "I pay for myself. I paid enough taxes before I got here and continue to through my company to pay my own salary. This is a service. No one here pays me to go,” he added. After constituents pushed back, Mullin reiterated that being a lawmaker is not "how I make my living."[/QUOTE] [url]http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/328615-gop-rep-bullcrap-to-say-taxpayers-pay-my-salary-i-pay-for[/url]

Buddy, you're a politician directly drawing money from the state. Tax payers pay your salary, you're a fucking moron. Get voted out of office please.

[QUOTE=MissZoey;52099121][url]http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/328615-gop-rep-bullcrap-to-say-taxpayers-pay-my-salary-i-pay-for[/url][/QUOTE] "You don't pay my salary, therefore I have no obligation to do what you want" :downs: Just business as usual for the GOP I guess?

Not quite accurate. I don't know why you'd ever make this statement to your constituents even if it was so.

this is why I vote against tax increases, feels good to hit clowns like this in the wallet

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099173]this is why I vote against tax increases, feels good to hit clowns like this in the wallet[/QUOTE] because they'll totally lower their own salaries and not just take money away from essential services

How to loose your chances at re-election in 1. Easy step.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;52099180]because they'll totally lower their own salaries and not just take money away from essential services[/QUOTE] you and i probably have very different definitions of "essential services"

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099173]this is why I vote against tax increases, feels good to hit clowns like this in the wallet[/QUOTE] I suppose I should tell you how the GOP works lol. They buy things regardless of whether they pay for them with taxes or not. Taxes are generally preferable to future debt + interest or diverting money from other services but hey lmao [sp]and its usually the former. [/sp]

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099190]you and i probably have very different definitions of "essential services"[/QUOTE] Bridges? Health care? Roads? Making sure people don't starve to death in the cold? I'm interested to know what counts as "essential" to you.

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099173]this is why I vote against tax increases, feels good to hit clowns like this in the wallet[/QUOTE] congratulations, you actively harm your country by not understanding what taxes are for, how career politicians get their money, or who tax increases are meant to target

I wonder if politics will ever get bad enough that there are mass protests in the form of people withholding taxes If they won't do their jobs, then why do we pay them? If we don't agree with anything that the government does, why do we give them our money? If enough people withhold their taxes in protest then it might actually force the GOP to start governing rather than just doing the bidding of corporations and repealing protections for citizens [editline]13th April 2017[/editline] Like the threat of completely crippling the country should snap these fuckers back to reality, and if it doesn't then maybe we are better off governing ourselves anyway

[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;52099252]I wonder if politics will ever get bad enough that there are mass protests in the form of people withholding taxes If they won't do their jobs, then why do we pay them? If we don't agree with anything that the government does, why do we give them our money? If enough people withhold their taxes in protest then it might actually force the GOP to start governing rather than just doing the bidding of corporations and repealing protections for citizens[/QUOTE] they make their money by the donations from these corporations, hence why they vote in favor of them over the population they don't want or need your tax money for their own persons; the GOP representative in this news piece is right in that regard plus, you're not going to simply withhold taxes, given that most jobs pay you your pay minus tax in the first place; you don't "give" the taxes since you are never given that tax in the first place

His point though is that he is so independently wealthy and successful in his private enterprises, or maybe even from lobbyist money, that he effectively doesn't need it care about or even think about the amount of money he makes holding office. Which is inherently the major fucking problem and the reason why I will never understandamerican conservatism. It's a blatant case of "I own everything, I run everything, and now my friends and I also write the laws. Fuck you." Not that all wealthy people are evil, just, a good deal of them seem to be, for some reason. And maybe that's related to the fact that in order to be at the top of your field at anything in western society, you kinda have to slice a few throats along the way. Or at the very least do things that are morally abhorrent that your competition wasn't willing to do.

[QUOTE=piddlezmcfuz;52099252]I wonder if politics will ever get bad enough that there are mass protests in the form of people withholding taxes If they won't do their jobs, then why do we pay them? If we don't agree with anything that the government does, why do we give them our money? If enough people withhold their taxes in protest then it might actually force the GOP to start governing rather than just doing the bidding of corporations and repealing protections for citizens [editline]13th April 2017[/editline] Like the threat of completely crippling the country should snap these fuckers back to reality, and if it doesn't then maybe we are better off governing ourselves anyway[/QUOTE] How do you even "withhold" your taxes? Your employer pulls it from your pay and you pay sales tax on your purchases.

[QUOTE=Cows Rule;52099282]How do you even "withhold" your taxes? Your employer pulls it from your pay and you pay sales tax on your purchases.[/QUOTE] As an independent contractor I could chose not to file taxes, or file and just never pay. Anyone who hasn't had their taxes withheld could do that. That would result in extremely bad consequences, though. You don't actually have a choice, they come after you.

When politicians are allowed to say things like this, we know that politicians know they aren't accountable. I really wish that was different.

[QUOTE=J Paul;52099281]His point though is that he is so independently wealthy and successful in his private enterprises, or maybe even from lobbyist money, that he effectively doesn't need it care about or even think about the amount of money he makes holding office. Which is inherently the major fucking problem and the reason why I will never understandamerican conservatism. It's a blatant case of "I own everything, I run everything, and now my friends and I also write the laws. Fuck you." Not that all wealthy people are evil, just, a good deal of them seem to be, for some reason. And maybe that's related to the fact that in order to be at the top of your field at anything in western society, you kinda have to slice a few throats along the way. Or at the very least do things that are morally abhorrent that your competition wasn't willing to do.[/QUOTE] the way to prevent this is to not vote them into power unfortunately conservatives are fucking stupid

[QUOTE=Jund;52099509]the way to prevent this is to not vote them into power unfortunately conservatives are fucking stupid[/QUOTE] yep, as a conservative I'm definitely "fucking stupid". its NOT because I have moral issues with wealth redistribution. its NOT because welfare actively reduces the rate at which poverty shrinks. its because I'm stupid! nailed it there

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099516]yep, as a conservative I'm definitely "fucking stupid". its NOT because I have moral issues with wealth redistribution. its NOT because welfare actively reduces the rate at which poverty shrinks. its because I'm stupid! nailed it there[/QUOTE] We're all glad that you've worked out your failings then.

If a politician said that in my country, he'd be out of office before you manage to blink. Or at least less than a week.

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099516]yep, as a conservative I'm definitely "fucking stupid". its NOT because I have moral issues with wealth redistribution. its NOT because welfare actively reduces the rate at which poverty shrinks. its because I'm stupid! nailed it there[/QUOTE] You said it, not me.

[QUOTE=Jund;52099509]the way to prevent this is to not vote them into power unfortunately conservatives are fucking stupid[/QUOTE] I don't even know if it's just stupidity though. I think that people actually do buy into the idea that those in power should be allowed to indiscriminately shit on others because if you ever became wealthy and powerful yourself you would also wish to reserve the right to shit on others. I think it's an inherent immorality within this type of person who is able to say fuck everyone else as long as I get mine. I don't think it's a case of the voters are too dumb to realise that's what they're voting for, I think they're voting for it on purpose due to a flaw in their character. [editline]13th April 2017[/editline] [QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099516]yep, as a conservative I'm definitely "fucking stupid". its NOT because I have moral issues with wealth redistribution. its NOT because welfare actively reduces the rate at which poverty shrinks. its because I'm stupid! nailed it there[/QUOTE] Sure, current solutions may not be completely addressing the problem, there are issues with a complete welfare state obviously, but the issue with conservatism is that you couldn't possibly believe that unrestricted and unchecked wealth and prosperity in the hands of the few elite who are willing to cut enough throats to get to it is a better option? That's why normal, moral, nice, logical people don't like conservatives.

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099516]yep, as a conservative I'm definitely "fucking stupid". its NOT because I have moral issues with wealth redistribution. its NOT because welfare actively reduces the rate at which poverty shrinks. its because I'm stupid! nailed it there[/QUOTE] unfortunately boot straps are a lot less appetizing than what food stamps are for

[QUOTE] The current solutions may not be completely addressing the problem, there are issues with a complete welfare state obviously, but the issue with conservatism is that you couldn't possibly believe that unrestricted and unchecked wealth and prosperity in the hands of the few elite who are willing to cut enough throats to get to it is a better option? That's why normal, moral, nice, logical people don't like conservatives.[/QUOTE] of course, you can only be moral and virtuous if you force the redistribution of wealth with threats of violence and prison. this is what turned me away from the left, this asinine idea that if youre any more right than center, you aren't a moral individual. if you were rich, would you not donate your money to the poor? what makes you the "one virtuous rich man"? do you believe that everyone who's rich refuses to be philanthropic? ludicrous. I'm 20 years old with no college education, and yet my personal wealth and net worth places me squarely in the middle class. my father (who is a leftist I should add) grew up in poverty, didn't go to college, and now owns a successful local business. (and before you say anything about handouts or inheritance, that didn't happen until i was about 10, for the first half of my life we lived in lower middle-class accommodation, and my father is so used to it we live pretty much the same now, even though his business brings in six figures.) I've worked since I was 13, I've done the grunt work, I was never given a job I didn't earn. Now I'm in a salaried position with a local company that provides me with health and dental insurance. So you can sit there and peddle your economic determinism drivel at me all you want, my family has pulled themselves out of poverty honestly. I PERSONALLY have pulled MYSELF out of poverty honestly. Its not an impossibility.

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099601]of course, you can only be moral and virtuous if you force the redistribution of wealth with threats of violence and prison. this is what turned me away from the left, this asinine idea that if youre any more right than center, you aren't a moral individual. if you were rich, would you not donate your money to the poor? what makes you the "one virtuous rich man"? do you believe that everyone who's rich refuses to be philanthropic? ludicrous. I'm 20 years old with no college education, and yet my personal wealth and net worth places me squarely in the middle class. my father (who is a leftist I should add) grew up in poverty, didn't go to college, and now owns a successful local business. (and before you say anything about handouts or inheritance, that didn't happen until i was about 10, for the first half of my life we lived in lower middle-class accommodation, and my father is so used to it we live pretty much the same now, even though his business brings in six figures.) I've worked since I was 13, I've done the grunt work, I was never given a job I didn't earn. Now I'm in a salaried position with a local company that provides me with health and dental insurance. So you can sit there and peddle your economic determinism drivel at me all you want, my family has pulled themselves out of poverty honestly. I PERSONALLY have pulled MYSELF out of poverty honestly. Its not an impossibility.[/QUOTE] Beating cancer with natural remedies as opposed to modern treatment isn't an impossibility too.

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099601]of course, you can only be moral and virtuous if you force the redistribution of wealth with threats of violence and prison. this is what turned me away from the left, this asinine idea that if youre any more right than center, you aren't a moral individual. if you were rich, would you not donate your money to the poor? what makes you the "one virtuous rich man"? do you believe that everyone who's rich refuses to be philanthropic? ludicrous. I'm 20 years old with no college education, and yet my personal wealth and net worth places me squarely in the middle class. my father (who is a leftist I should add) grew up in poverty, didn't go to college, and now owns a successful local business. (and before you say anything about handouts or inheritance, that didn't happen until i was about 10, for the first half of my life we lived in lower middle-class accommodation, and my father is so used to it we live pretty much the same now, even though his business brings in six figures.) I've worked since I was 13, I've done the grunt work, I was never given a job I didn't earn. Now I'm in a salaried position with a local company that provides me with health and dental insurance. So you can sit there and peddle your economic determinism drivel at me all you want, my family has pulled themselves out of poverty honestly. I PERSONALLY have pulled MYSELF out of poverty honestly. Its not an impossibility.[/QUOTE] there's that bootstrap nonsense again

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099601]of course, you can only be moral and virtuous if you force the redistribution of wealth with threats of violence and prison. this is what turned me away from the left, this asinine idea that if youre any more right than center, you aren't a moral individual. if you were rich, would you not donate your money to the poor? what makes you the "one virtuous rich man"? do you believe that everyone who's rich refuses to be philanthropic? ludicrous. I'm 20 years old with no college education, and yet my personal wealth and net worth places me squarely in the middle class. my father (who is a leftist I should add) grew up in poverty, didn't go to college, and now owns a successful local business. (and before you say anything about handouts or inheritance, that didn't happen until i was about 10, for the first half of my life we lived in lower middle-class accommodation, and my father is so used to it we live pretty much the same now, even though his business brings in six figures.) I've worked since I was 13, I've done the grunt work, I was never given a job I didn't earn. Now I'm in a salaried position with a local company that provides me with health and dental insurance. So you can sit there and peddle your economic determinism drivel at me all you want, my family has pulled themselves out of poverty honestly. I PERSONALLY have pulled MYSELF out of poverty honestly. Its not an impossibility.[/QUOTE] You know we're not talking about that, though. You are still extremely poor compared to these Republicans in particular. You may have achieved nominal success in one of the easiest places known for people being able to do so (land of opportunity), but hey, that's still great, congratulations. I've done something similar myself man, it's cool. That doesn't change the fact that the Titans at the top who are actually running and pushing conservatism make enough that we could redistribute their wealth and take care of a good majority of the world's ills and they would still be fabulously wealthy. That is the problem.

[QUOTE=portalcrazy;52099620]there's that bootstrap nonsense again[/QUOTE] nonsense? I'm a living verifiable example that working your way out of poverty is possible.

[QUOTE=Mitchd247;52099601]of course, you can only be moral and virtuous if you force the redistribution of wealth with threats of violence and prison. this is what turned me away from the left, this asinine idea that if youre any more right than center, you aren't a moral individual. if you were rich, would you not donate your money to the poor? what makes you the "one virtuous rich man"? do you believe that everyone who's rich refuses to be philanthropic? ludicrous. I'm 20 years old with no college education, and yet my personal wealth and net worth places me squarely in the middle class. my father (who is a leftist I should add) grew up in poverty, didn't go to college, and now owns a successful local business. (and before you say anything about handouts or inheritance, that didn't happen until i was about 10, for the first half of my life we lived in lower middle-class accommodation, and my father is so used to it we live pretty much the same now, even though his business brings in six figures.) I've worked since I was 13, I've done the grunt work, I was never given a job I didn't earn. Now I'm in a salaried position with a local company that provides me with health and dental insurance. So you can sit there and peddle your economic determinism drivel at me all you want, my family has pulled themselves out of poverty honestly. I PERSONALLY have pulled MYSELF out of poverty honestly. Its not an impossibility.[/QUOTE] "if my leftist father could do it then so can everyone else because my life experiences reflect the entirety of poor america's"