Boy Scouts To Review Ban On Gays; But No Change Expected
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[QUOTE]NEW YORK — The Boy Scouts of America will review a resolution that would allow individual units to accept gays as adult leaders, but a spokesman says there's no expectation that the ban on gay leaders will in fact be lifted any time soon.
The resolution was submitted by a Scout leader from the Northeast in April and presented last week at the Scouts' national meeting in Orlando, Fla., according to BSA spokesman Deron Smith.
Smith said Wednesday it would be referred to a subcommittee, which will then make a recommendation to the national executive board. The process would likely be completed by May 2013, according to Smith, who said there were no plans at this time to change the policy.
During last week's meeting, the Scouts were presented with a petition, bearing more than 275,000 names, protesting the ouster of a lesbian mother, Jennifer Tyrrell, who'd been serving as a Scout den mother near Bridgeport, Ohio.
Among those who presented the Change.org petition, and met with Scout officials, was Eagle Scout Zach Wahls, an Iowa college student who was raised by lesbian mothers.
Wahls, in a telephone interview, said he and his allies planned a campaign to mobilize opposition to the gay-exclusion policy from within Scout ranks, with the goal of building pressure for the resolution to be approved.
"Up to the day they end this policy, they'll be saying they have no plans to do so," Wahls said. "But there's no question it's costing the Boy Scouts in terms of membership and public support."
The Scouts, who celebrated their 100th anniversary in 2010, have had a long-standing policy of excluding gays and atheists. Controversy over the policy intensified in 2000 when the U.S. Supreme Court allowed the Scouts to maintain the policy in the face of a legal challenge.
Leaders of several regional scouting councils have asked for the policy to be scrapped or modified, to no avail.[/QUOTE]
Source: [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/06/boy-scouts-to-review-ban-_n_1575694.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Kabstrac;36229562]This is just so dumb, I don't understand why orientation even matters (unless you're attracted to dead things)[/QUOTE]
Because very strongly conservative religious base (seriously so many mormon boy scouts).
Also the good old-fashioned 'homos are automatically pedos so we can't trust them with our children' thought.
Glad it's come this far
The boy scouts is pretty much run by the mormons. I think it's funny that since 300 mormons went to the gay pride parade yet nothing really came of it in any aspect.
I love the irony. Isn't the stereotypical image of a Boy Scout gay anyway?
Scouts everywhere else in the world have to be, the UK at least, by guidelines (and common sense) accepting of all people, isn't the BSOA part of the rest of the world network? Then again, America has to be seperate and different, as fucking always
[QUOTE=Stockers678;36233077]I love the irony. Isn't the stereotypical image of a Boy Scout gay anyway?[/QUOTE]
Yeah, "stereotypically", that makes it irrelevant
When I was in scouts, I didn't pick up the "No Gays" vibe at all. I mean, there were a couple characters that were pretty out there on the gaydar, but nobody seemed to care.
Isolated situation perhaps?
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;36233309]When I was in scouts, I didn't pick up the "No Gays" vibe at all. I mean, there were a couple characters that were pretty out there on the gaydar, but nobody seemed to care.
Isolated situation perhaps?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]The Boy Scouts of America will review a resolution that would allow individual units to accept gays as adult leaders, but a spokesman says there's no expectation that the ban on gay leaders will in fact be lifted any time soon.[/QUOTE]
Does that sound like an isolated situation to you?
[QUOTE=S31-Syntax;36233309]When I was in scouts, I didn't pick up the "No Gays" vibe at all. I mean, there were a couple characters that were pretty out there on the gaydar, but nobody seemed to care.
Isolated situation perhaps?[/QUOTE]
That's the thing, there's gay guys in the scouts but they're forced to keep their mouth shut. Same with Athiests. It's like DADT pretty much.
Well at least it's a start.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndoP1YW72Zk[/media]
how about instead we enforce radical reformation on the scouts. It's obviously... [I]bullshit[/I].
I worked at a boy scout camp over the summer last year (not a boy scout but a friend is and he got me a job there for volunteer hours) and I did get a homophobic vibe from the actual boy scouts that worked there. They used "gay" as a synonym for "bad, stupid", etc. and seemed pretty immature.
That was also when I found out that gays weren't allowed to be in the boy scouts. I kept my mouth shut at the time because I didn't want a confrontation with a bunch of people who are against gays, but goddamn that is indeed some bullshit right there.
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[QUOTE=IMA SHAARK;36235958]I worked at a boy scout camp over the summer last year (not a boy scout but a friend is and he got me a job there for volunteer hours) and I did get a homophobic vibe from the actual boy scouts that worked there. They used "gay" as a synonym for "bad, stupid", etc. and seemed pretty immature.
That was also when I found out that gays weren't allowed to be in the boy scouts. I kept my mouth shut at the time because I didn't want a confrontation with a bunch of people who are against gays, but goddamn that is indeed some bullshit right there.[/QUOTE]
I hate to break it to ya, but even gays say "that's gay".
Imagine if they let gays lead boy scouts, the first time someone brought up rubbing two sticks together everyone would snicker. That's not even counting what would happen when someone asked if they were having weeners tonight.
Wasn't the founder of the Boy Scouts some kind of pedophile?
[QUOTE=Kabstrac;36229562]This is just so dumb, I don't understand why orientation even matters (unless you're attracted to dead things)[/QUOTE]
We often have to sleep in the same tent with other boys, you could imagine what some parents might think.
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I'm okay with them allowing it, but I still think this is a bad idea.
[QUOTE=Mingebox;36237681]Wasn't the founder of the Boy Scouts some kind of pedophile?[/QUOTE]
No that's bollocks, but it's said he may have been a repressed homosexual, believe it or not
[QUOTE=IMA SHAARK;36235958]I worked at a boy scout camp over the summer last year (not a boy scout but a friend is and he got me a job there for volunteer hours) and I did get a homophobic vibe from the actual boy scouts that worked there. They used "gay" as a synonym for "bad, stupid", etc. and seemed pretty immature.
That was also when I found out that gays weren't allowed to be in the boy scouts. I kept my mouth shut at the time because I didn't want a confrontation with a bunch of people who are against gays, but goddamn that is indeed some bullshit right there.[/QUOTE]
You realize that is like, every modern child.
It's not like every boy scout isn't on a rampage for anal sex anyway
Yes I can't wait to hear the decision I'm sure equality is of the utmost importan..
[quote=]The process would likely be completed by [b]May 2013[/b][/quote]
I used to be a scout in the UK and it was nothing like this. The scouting movement here was always willing to accept pretty much anyone
My dad is talking about how all gays are paedophiles.
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[QUOTE=M24;36240950]I used to be a scout in the UK and it was nothing like this. The scouting movement here was always willing to accept pretty much anyone[/QUOTE]
Like Penn & Teller said, this whole anti-gay thing is actually a rather recent change. They weren't like that at one point, neither was the United States.
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