UK: Police and buildings attacked as thousands of students protest for free education - Polidicks

Police clash with student protestors as thousands march on Parliament Square and Tory party headquarters in anger over tuition fees and graduate debt [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/234C5B4100000578-0-image-65_1416411377248.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/1416415316944_Image_galleryImage_Mandatory_Credit_Photo_by.JPG[/img] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/1416416210856_Image_galleryImage_LONDON_ENGLAND_NOVEMBER_1.JPG[/img] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/234C6B7900000578-0-image-67_1416411390087.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/234CB41D00000578-2841077-image-106_1416413842794.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/234D0D3300000578-2841077-image-157_1416416803626.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/234C2C4200000578-2841077-image-115_1416414312849.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/1416417078408_Image_galleryImage_LONDON_ENGLAND_NOVEMBER_1.JPG[/img] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/234CDF3F00000578-2841077-image-166_1416417086963.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/19/1416418579434_Image_galleryImage_Mandatory_Credit_Photo_by.JPG[/img] [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2841077/Police-clash-student-protestors-thousands-march-Parliament-Square-Tory-party-headquarters-anger-tuition-fees-graduate-debt.html[/url]

I thought European education was better than most places. What's going on?

[QUOTE=ToumaniSquirrel;46527803]I thought European education was better than most places. What's going on?[/QUOTE] They are fighting against the price of education, not the education itself.

[QUOTE=ToumaniSquirrel;46527803]I thought European education was better than most places. What's going on?[/QUOTE] Cost of it. Uni fees tripled like 2 years ago.

[QUOTE=ToumaniSquirrel;46527803]I thought European education was better than most places. What's going on?[/QUOTE] You have to fork out £9K a year for your university course now instead of how it used to be where I think it was around £3K Plus courses are sometimes quite long depending on what you want to do, so you can often end up £30K or more in debt. College is free unless you are over a certain age but it's always been the case you'll have to pay for University unless you get a Scholarship or something.

[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;46527832]You have to fork out £9K a year for your university course now instead of how it used to be where I think it was around £3K Plus courses are sometimes quite long depending on what you want to do, so you can often end up £30K or more in debt. College is free unless you are over a certain age but it's always been the case you'll have to pay for University unless you get a Scholarship or something.[/QUOTE] £9k for UK students, for foreign students it's around £30k (last time I checked)

How much does your average college cost in the UK per year? Mine's only €1200 per year in the Netherlands.

I was going to joke that they should come here and see how much we pay, but I looked it up and the average tuition for a public college was just under $9000.

[QUOTE=joost1120;46527871]How much does your average college cost in the UK per year? Mine's only €1200 per year in the Netherlands.[/QUOTE] Depends what you mean by college, college here is age 16-18 and it's free

[QUOTE=matt.ant;46527850]£9k for UK students, for foreign students it's around £30k (last time I checked)[/QUOTE] It's only 9K for English+Welsh I think. I know NI still gets it for 3K (I'm at uni there) and I think Scotish people get it either for free or for 3K aswell. English/Welsh that go to uni in either NI or Scotland still need to pay 9K though.

Compared to the rest of the world £9k isn't bad, and that's only the top unis who charge that much, so you're getting your £9k moneys worth. Sounds like a bunch of international teenagers angry they can't come to Britain to make use of cheap education, and will have to stay in their own country to afford education. [editline]19th November 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Duskin;46527885]It's only 9K for English+Welsh I think. I know NI still gets it for 3K (I'm at uni there) and I think Scotish people get it either for free or for 3K aswell. English/Welsh that go to uni in either NI or Scotland still need to pay 9K though.[/QUOTE] Yep, free here in Scotland.

[QUOTE=joost1120;46527871]How much does your average college cost in the UK per year? Mine's only €1200 per year in the Netherlands.[/QUOTE] College is free unless your a certain age, like 20 or something, and seeing as you leave school at 16 usually unless you stay on for Sixth Form you have plenty of time. My design course was about £1500 in total though, but because I was under the age it cost nothing.

I like how the DM puts the violent protesters first and then WAY DOWN 'Oh yeah there were a lot more peaceful people but whatev'

Honestly we don't have an absolutely terrible deal apart from the fact that they can always change the terms of repayment. I doubt many will even be paying the full amount back.

Good on them. I am all for free education - any education ( as long as it's legal )

At least they are fighting for something meaningful

[QUOTE=MachiniOs;46527898]Honestly we don't have an absolutely terrible deal apart from the fact that they can always change the terms of repayment. I doubt many will even be paying the full amount back.[/QUOTE] It's quite a lot of money like. English students need to pay like £27,000 just for a single Honours degree, and then when you add on 3 years of maintenance loans it adds up to about £36,000. That doesn't even factor in all their expenses too, so add a few more thousand ontop of that depending on how you live and if you're living at home etc.

The police look legitimately fearful in some of those photos. Poor guys just trying to keep order and peace.

oh how I love not having to pay tuition fees [img]http://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media/956899/edinburgh.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.monologuedb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/braveheart.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Thomo_UK;46527832]You have to fork out £9K a year for your university course now instead of how it used to be where I think it was around £3K Plus courses are sometimes quite long depending on what you want to do, so you can often end up £30K or more in debt. College is free unless you are over a certain age but it's always been the case you'll have to pay for University unless you get a Scholarship or something.[/QUOTE] this is sort of misleading you arent just left after university with all your money being drained to fulfil your payment if you earn under £25,000 (or around there) after you graduate you pay nothing, and above that you pay a percentage (on the lower end of the scale ie £25-30,000 a year its still a low payment) its all deducted before you get your pay so you dont have to do anything, and even though it's a loan it doesnt affect your ability to get bank loans/mortgages at all. still havent payed after 30 or so years? well its all written off after that thats how it goes for people who started in 2012 (first year for £9000 a year payment) at least

[QUOTE=joost1120;46527871]How much does your average college cost in the UK per year? Mine's only €1200 per year in the Netherlands.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=matt.ant;46527881]Depends what you mean by college, college here is age 16-18 and it's free[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Thomo_UK;46527890]College is free unless your a certain age, like 20 or something, and seeing as you leave school at 16 usually unless you stay on for Sixth Form you have plenty of time. My design course was about £1500 in total though, but because I was under the age it cost nothing.[/QUOTE] I was in the 6th form for 2 years as my grade weren't great (I suck at exams I did try in school I have retaken my English three times and my maths once already because of this. ) and I was unsure what I wanted to do. I started my first year of college at age 18 and I turned 19 a month after the course started. At the end of the year I wanted to stay for a second course to do the next level that is 2 years and was worried about the cost as it said it would cost £1080 each year + £50 trip frees. After talking with the colleges finance department I was told it is currently free if you are doing your first full level 3 course. So I am now 20 and doing the first year of the course and am rather happy not having to spend all that cash.

[QUOTE=Instant Mix;46527990]oh how I love not having to pay tuition fees [img]http://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media/956899/edinburgh.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.monologuedb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/braveheart.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] It's a shame really, all of scotland and most of europe can come here for free education, but everyone else from england/wales has to pay the ridiculous £9k a year.

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;46528078]this is sort of misleading you arent just left after university with all your money being drained to fulfil your payment if you earn under £25,000 (or around there) after you graduate you pay nothing, and above that you pay a percentage (on the lower end of the scale ie £25-30,000 a year its still a low payment) its all deducted before you get your pay so you dont have to do anything, and even though it's a loan it doesnt affect your ability to get bank loans/mortgages at all. still havent payed after 30 or so years? well its all written off after that thats how it goes for people who started in 2012 (first year for £9000 a year payment) at least[/QUOTE] Yeah, I was going to put that but I didn't know the exact figures of how much you needed to be earning/not earning.

[QUOTE=Instant Mix;46527990]oh how I love not having to pay tuition fees [img]http://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media/956899/edinburgh.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.monologuedb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/braveheart.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Brb moving to Scotland

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;46528078]this is sort of misleading you arent just left after university with all your money being drained to fulfil your payment if you earn under £25,000 (or around there) after you graduate you pay nothing, and above that you pay a percentage (on the lower end of the scale ie £25-30,000 a year its still a low payment) its all deducted before you get your pay so you dont have to do anything, and even though it's a loan it doesnt affect your ability to get bank loans/mortgages at all. still havent payed after 30 or so years? well its all written off after that thats how it goes for people who started in 2012 (first year for £9000 a year payment) at least[/QUOTE] Student debt is by far the best debt you'll ever be in. No other debt will be as forgiving and lenient.

i'm investing my student loan so i earn above RPI on it and make money from it. stocks and shares isa + good fund manager and i'm laughing all the way to the pension

[QUOTE=Instant Mix;46527990]oh how I love not having to pay tuition fees [IMG]http://www.slatergordon.co.uk/media/956899/edinburgh.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.monologuedb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/braveheart.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE] oh how i love uh getting grants to pay for fees and stuff i guess [IMG]http://assets.northwooduk.com/images/offices/cardiff-and-newport_office/original/Cardiff.jpg?1372420948[/IMG] [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8FNa40m.png[/IMG]

[QUOTE=matt.ant;46528131]Student debt is by far the best debt you'll ever be in. No other debt will be as forgiving and lenient.[/QUOTE] i would still rather be in no debt.

[QUOTE=Duskin;46527885]It's only 9K for English+Welsh I think. I know NI still gets it for 3K (I'm at uni there) and I think Scotish people get it either for free or for 3K aswell. English/Welsh that go to uni in either NI or Scotland still need to pay 9K though.[/QUOTE] It's all free in Scotland! Woo hoo!

[quote]Members of the hard-line anarchist Black Bloc organisation infiltrated the student demonstration wearing balaclavas and waving flags.[/quote] So they pin this on students when it was instigated by anarchists?