Sanders, Perez hitting the road in unity tour - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez will hold rallies this month across the country in an effort to rally grassroots support for a 50-state party strategy. The rallies follow a heated race for the DNC chairmanship in which Sanders backed Perez’s rival, Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.). “At a time of massive income and wealth inequality and a shrinking middle class, we need a government which represents all Americans, not just Wall Street, multi-national corporations and the top 1 percent,” Sanders and Perez said in a joint statement.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/328083-sanders-perez-hitting-the-road-in-unity-tour"]http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/328083-sanders-perez-hitting-the-road-in-unity-tour[/URL] I cant try to hide this any longer, But yes Bernie and Perez are doing 'Unity Tour' like I think around several days ago. I mean that fine you think this ok, But I'm still skeptical about Perez overall (aka what remains of Clinton/Obama-era Democrats), And because of him and others will not helping weaker Bernie's candidates as example to [I]how not[/I] win seats from the Republican majority. And this will give even more bad vibes from more Bernie supporters of make Bernie as hypocrite than anything else.

I think as long as Bernie stays passionate and in connection with people he'll win them over

[QUOTE=ChadMcGoatMan;52109359] And this will give even more bad vibes from more Bernie supporters of make Bernie as hypocrite than anything else.[/QUOTE] DNC head shows solidarity with bernie sanders, therefore bernie sanders is a sellout?

[QUOTE=Sableye;52109434]DNC head shows solidarity with bernie sanders, therefore bernie sanders is a sellout?[/QUOTE] Since after DNC convention fallout, Most of all Bernie supporters are and still don't buying narrative that DNC or Pro-Democratic Party media want to be portrayed because they saw of probable cheating and manipulation disguise as opinion by the Democratic establishment in infamous primary season from last election and purposedly want to divide by them not his supporters. And I didn't say he sellout, But clearly, I'm saying he unintentionally making himself more hypocritical by his skeptical and policy-focused supporters.

Bernie has shown he's been willing to work with whomever, even the devil himself (remember "give Trump a chance"?) if it means he can help the American people. This is hardly hypocrisy and it's blatantly obvious you have unjustified rage against the democratic party Chad. It's one thing to hate the DNC for what they've done during the election, and another thing to hate them and those that work with them for simply existing.

[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;52109765]Bernie has shown he's been willing to work with whomever, even the devil himself (remember "give Trump a chance"?) if it means he can help the American people. [B]This is hardly hypocrisy and it's blatantly obvious you have unjustified rage against the democratic party Chad[/B]. It's one thing to hate the DNC for what they've done during the election, and another thing to hate them and those that work with them for simply existing.[/QUOTE] Im not that too mad from last year because I'm outgrown it right now. But I'm just still disillusioned of that party is becoming same as Republicans (Like they are flip-flops their own issues like Iraq and Syria War for example) and by using despite ways to destroying themselves instead caring their members and party itself, if they better they need to aid Bernie's candidates for any elections in future and defend his former surrgates if they want their party to keep afloat. And only one thing I can agree on that DWS (ultimate example of every wrong with DNC) screw this election up and this voting system are reasons both parties (Democrats and Republicans) still exist without politically left-wing alternatives. [QUOTE=ChicagoMobster;52109399]I think as long as Bernie stays passionate and in connection with people he'll win them over[/QUOTE] I understand that and obviously agreeing with you, But I'm worried Perez will backstab him and his movement again.

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Chad, instead of viewing this as something negative towards Sanders (eg Sellout), why not view this as something positive for Perez? I'm sure Bernie will definitely have a positive affect on him!

[QUOTE=Instant Mix;52111948]Chad, instead of viewing this as something negative towards Sanders (eg Sellout), why not view this as something positive for Perez? I'm sure Bernie will definitely have a positive affect on him![/QUOTE] Again I didn't calling him sellout (And think about it just accusations calling me sour) and I was leaning mixed to negative about this move, And I have doubt Perez is using him for his political popularity as mean he wants keep his job.

[QUOTE=ChadMcGoatMan;52109790] I understand that and obviously agreeing with you, But I'm worried Perez will backstab him and his movement [B]again[/B].[/QUOTE] ????? When did Perez originally backstab his movement? As far as I can see, Perez has openly worked with his movement by appointing Ellison to vice-chair, a role that has never existed until now. He literally created a new role in the DNC so that the Bernie movement would have more say.

[QUOTE=MissZoey;52112094]????? When did Perez originally backstab his movement? As far as I can see, Perez has openly worked with his movement by appointing Ellison to vice-chair, a role that has never existed until now. He literally created a new role in the DNC so that the Bernie movement would have more say.[/QUOTE] Any others examples of Perez doing any help for Bernie or his movement besides them newly made apposition for Ellison.

[QUOTE=ChadMcGoatMan;52112102]Any others examples of Perez doing any help for Bernie or his movement besides them newly made apposition for Ellison.[/QUOTE] There's no reason for this hateboner for Perez. He's been blasted as some corporate shill on the "Hillary side," but he really isn't. He's literal lightyears ahead of the last two DNC chairs, and he's [URL="https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/tom-perez-isnt-as-liberal-as-keith-ellison-but-hes-still-pretty-progressive/"]not all that much less progressive than Ellison[/URL]. He's an incredibly experienced guy. He's a trained civil rights lawyer with dozens of important cases under his belt. His motion for the Vice Chair for Ellison was because he recognizes that the DNC is divided and he wants to make an effort to unify it. I'm a huge Sanders supporter and I heaped praise on Ellison, but you won't win anything if you shit on literally every other left-wing person in government. You don't win a tug of war by chopping the rope with a machete, you pull. Change in the DNC won't happen if Sanders supporters continue to reject every single person who isn't as progressive as possible. Perez is still a huge improvement over past chairs.