• Look away, son; Father attempts to solicit prostitute with his kid in car
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[thumb]http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/FLORIDA-MAN.jpg[/thumb] [quote=floridaaaaaaa] DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. —With his 2-year-old son in the car, police said Patrick Williams tried to pick up a prostitute for oral sex on busy Ridgewood Avenue, but the working woman police say he was soliciting was actually working undercover. [B]"I never solicited in any way. She came over, offered everything. It's a big entrapment. Police sting," Williams told WESH 2.[/B] Police Chief Mike Chitwood said the Ridgewood area is a hot spot for prostitutes, and taking his son along for the ride was a dangerous and stupid move. "I said I got my kid. She said 'that's cool, I've got a room.' I said 'yeah, yeah whatever.' Then we turn around to get away from my car. As soon as I turned, drove way away. Blocks up the road, they lit me up," Williams said. "He's a father, married man. Normally on Ridgewood Avenue are these disease-infested prostitutes," Chitwood said. "You run the risk to get robbed or whatever else you want to do and you think it's okay to bring your 4-year-old kid with you?" Williams said he wasn't doing anything shady with the woman he believed was a prostitute on Ridgewood. In fact, he said, while on the way to buy his kids toys, he stopped to pray for the woman. [B]The police report paints a much different story.[/B] [B]In the arrest affidavit, police said the undercover officer told Williams, "she had a room and said that the child could watch cartoons."[/B] [B]Williams allegedly told the officer he would turn around, keeping his back to the child, so the toddler wouldn't see the sexual act. [/B] Williams said his wife was angry and that he "explained the situation. The reality is I thought it was some crazy crackhead. I felt bad for her, prayed for her and drove off." To make matters worse, the child who police said was almost a witness to his own father involved with a prostitute, instead had to watch his father be led away in handcuffs. "He cried. Three-year-old son crying," Williams said. "We were on the way to go buy him some toys. It's causing so many problems. Soon to be ex-wife is pissed about it. It's just been a terrible situation." Williams said he plans on fighting the charges. [B]Meanwhile, Chitwood said in the past two weeks, police have arrested 50 people in the same area for prostitution.[/B][/quote] [url]http://www.wesh.com/news/father-arrested-for-prostitution-with-toddler-in-car-police-say/24909800[/url] Best part; the fact that he says he was only stopping to "pray" for the undercover cop as a prostitute. Yeah; that's totally what happened. But nothing is better than the video in the source, the reporter voice over saying that “Williams says he wasn’t doing anything shady” while the camera pans on a closeup of a street sign that reads “Shady Pl” [img]http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/SHADY-LANE.jpg[/img] So yeah, do you think this is entrapment or just a bullshitter fp?
So wait, in America you guys have cops dress up as prostitutes even though it's illegal and then arrest other people for wanting said services? Wat, that's the most backwards sounding shit ever, don't they have something better to do with their time other then harass horny desperate people?
I honestly believe the father more than the police.
I always hear the entrapment prostitutes in the south more than the north. Not sure why.
[QUOTE=pkhzor;44203501]So wait, in America you guys have cops dress up as prostitutes even though it's illegal and then arrest other people for wanting said services? Wat, that's the most backwards sounding shit ever, don't they have something better to do with their time other then harass horny desperate people?[/QUOTE] Yup. Its pretty sad.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;44203560]I always hear the entrapment prostitutes in the south more than the north. Not sure why.[/QUOTE] Dude you have no idea. In Central Florida, there's a road called Orange Blossom Trail that is famous for prostitution and cop stints.
[QUOTE=pkhzor;44203501]don't they have something better to do with their time other then harass horny desperate people?[/QUOTE] Well, if my alternatives were either taking down a drug cartel or just dress slutty for a while...
[QUOTE=pkhzor;44203501]So wait, in America you guys have cops dress up as prostitutes even though it's illegal and then arrest other people for wanting said services? Wat, that's the most backwards sounding shit ever, don't they have something better to do with their time other then harass horny desperate people?[/QUOTE] Havent you seen that show where the police just leave a car with the keys on and the door open on a poor neighborhood or around not so good looking people, and then they wait until someone gets on the car and arrest him/her/them?
[QUOTE=pkhzor;44203501]So wait, in America you guys have cops dress up as prostitutes even though it's illegal and then arrest other people for wanting said services? Wat, that's the most backwards sounding shit ever, don't they have something better to do with their time other then harass horny desperate people?[/QUOTE] they sell drugs too from what I've seen on Cops. Can't beat the enemy? Join them!
Why didn't he ask if she's a cop? That's literally all you have to do.
Police do it here in the UK for cottaging/dogging hot spots. However you can circumvent it by having them touch you (while not exposed obviously) at which point if they go "I'm a cop you're under arrest" it becomes entrapment.
[QUOTE=avincent;44203672]Why didn't he ask if she's a cop? That's literally all you have to do.[/QUOTE] Actually no, cops don't have to tell you they're cops when you ask.
[QUOTE=joshuadim;44203590]Dude you have no idea. In Central Florida, there's a road called Orange Blossom Trail that is famous for prostitution and cop stints.[/QUOTE] we're a special place [editline]11th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=mobrockers;44203693]Actually no, cops don't have to tell you they're cops when you ask.[/QUOTE] Especially if they are undercover [editline]11th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=-Iker-;44203655]Havent you seen that show where the police just leave a car with the keys on and the door open on a poor neighborhood or around not so good looking people, and then they wait until someone gets on the car and arrest him/her/them?[/QUOTE] you bring up an amazing point :v: that show is pretty hilarious to watch, by the way
[QUOTE=mobrockers;44203693]Actually no, cops don't have to tell you they're cops when you ask.[/QUOTE] I still don't get how that myth even got started, it's completely retarded.
I thought entrapment was super illegal in the States aswell.
If what the police officer said is true, this isn't entrapment. For something to be considered "entrapment", the victim must have been clearly unwilling to perform the crime [I]until[/I] an undercover officer persuaded or pressured them into doing it. [url=http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped]Here's a comic[/url] that outlines some common misconceptions about entrapment and why they're wrong.
[quote]his 2-year-old son[/quote] [quote]your 4-year-old kid[/quote] [quote]Three-year-old son crying,[/quote] ???
[QUOTE=demoguy08;44203719]I thought entrapment was super illegal in the States aswell.[/QUOTE] It is.
[QUOTE=c:;44203886]???[/QUOTE] In another source it's referred as a 3 or 4 year old, guess it was just an inconsistency in the news. still sounds funny
[QUOTE=Beetle179;44203831]If what the police officer said is true, this isn't entrapment. For something to be considered "entrapment", the victim must have been clearly unwilling to perform the crime [I]until[/I] an undercover officer persuaded or pressured them into doing it. [URL="http://thecriminallawyer.tumblr.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped"]Here's a comic[/URL] that outlines some common misconceptions about entrapment and why they're wrong.[/QUOTE] Right, that's what I thought happened. But if he himself approached the "prostitute" then yeah that's legit.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;44203719]I thought entrapment was super illegal in the States aswell.[/QUOTE] It is, and this isn't entrapment.
[QUOTE=pkhzor;44203501]So wait, in America you guys have cops dress up as prostitutes even though it's illegal and then arrest other people for wanting said services? Wat, that's the most backwards sounding shit ever, don't they have something better to do with their time other then harass horny desperate people?[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neEevCiZjfc[/media] Also, did the kids age change throughout the article?
[QUOTE=demoguy08;44203957]Right, that's what I thought happened. But if he himself approached the "prostitude" then yeah that's legit.[/QUOTE] Even if they offer their "services", it's still not entrapment.
[QUOTE=cyclocius;44203975] Also, did the kids age change throughout the article?[/QUOTE] Yeah based on another source it seems to be an inconsistency between reportings; whether or not the kid was 2, 3, or 4
[QUOTE=demoguy08;44203957]Right, that's what I thought happened. But if he himself approached the "prostitude" then yeah that's legit.[/QUOTE] Thats his side of the story, that he had no interest in sex. However at that point its his word against theirs.
[QUOTE=demoguy08;44203719]I thought entrapment was super illegal in the States aswell.[/QUOTE] It isn't entrapment. If he rolls up, assuming shes a prostitute and invites her into his vehicle it's his fault.
[QUOTE=supersnail11;44203977]Even if they offer their "services", it's still not entrapment.[/QUOTE] Well of course not, that'd just be a part of the undercover role.
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;44203673]Police do it here in the UK for cottaging/dogging hot spots. However you can circumvent it by having them touch you (while not exposed obviously) at which point if they go "I'm a cop you're under arrest" it becomes entrapment.[/QUOTE] Prostitution is legal in the UK though? Curb crawling and organised prostitution (brothels, pimps etc) is illegal, but exchanging money between two consenting adults for sex is legal
[QUOTE=Intoxicated Spy;44203908]It is.[/QUOTE] that doesn't stop anything though, you see that all the time here in california
Good riddance. Those fucking sex-hungry criminals are disgusting. I can totally see why the police would spend resources on an undercover operation like this. Keep those dangerous felons off the streets!
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