• Illinois Woman awarded $117,000 after being arrested for recording a police officer
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[QUOTE]The 12-page agreement calls for paying $117,500 to Naperville resident Malia "Kim" Bendis, whose Jan. 23 lawsuit accused the city and four of its police officers of violating her constitutional rights. A founder of the grass-roots Naperville Smart Meter Awareness group, Bendis filed her complaint in U.S. District Court in Chicago two years to the day after her arrest by Naperville police on misdemeanor charges of eavesdropping and resisting a peace officer, charges on which she was later acquitted. Bendis and members of her group opposed replacement of the city-owned residential analog electric meters at their homes with wireless alternatives. Bendis maintained police intervened during an installation of one of the devices at a home, in violation of her civil rights. The filing, which named four Naperville Police Department officers, also asserted that city officials decided in a closed door meeting to arrest Bendis and any other residents who interfered with their plan to "forcibly install the smart meters."[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.chicagotribune.com/suburbs/naperville-sun/news/ct-nvs-smart-meter-suit-st-0916-20150915-story.html[/url] [video=youtube;4MkzIdKmeWo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MkzIdKmeWo[/video] [video=youtube;NP1P2tbS-KA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NP1P2tbS-KA[/video]
while its good that it sets another precedence for filming cops, refusing smart meters to the point that the city thinks it needs to send cops with the technicians is dumb
Smart meter "awareness" is the dumbest paranoid scam. The utility company owns the meters. You can't just arbitrarily stop them from performing maintenance, which can include replacement. There are no "health risks" to the RF emissions. That said, police entering a property without a court order is generally not legal. The settlement also is not an admission of guilt, it's just that the city would have paid way more in attorney fees in court, so this was in their favor.
Maybe I'm biased, but trying to hide behind your kids supposed medical conditions for seemingly nothing but your fifteen minutes of fame and a chance to stir up shit over nothing seems a lot worse than having your house's meter get updated.
Oh, for a second I thought we were talking about the privatized and overpriced parking meters in Chicago. Fuck those parking meters.
[QUOTE=Sableye;48753730]while its good that it sets another precedence for filming cops, refusing smart meters to the point that the city thinks it needs to send cops with the technicians is dumb[/QUOTE] Another precedent shouldn't be necessary. The supreme court has already ruled that there exists no expectation of privacy in public. The cop should face charges for unlawful imprisonment/detainment.
Bad call on the cop's part for sure, but I totally get why police can HATE being filmed
[QUOTE=TheTalon;48753930]Bad call on the cop's part for sure, but I totally get why police can HATE being filmed[/QUOTE] Well it's either someone films them or they film themselves.
[QUOTE=Gray Altoid;48753947]Well it's either someone films them or they film themselves.[/QUOTE] They hate it because it's another layer of people trying to kill your career, even if you're just doing your job and doing it right. A lot of GOTCHA! Provoking and know it all google lawyers, and people that might get too close to a scene and get hurt
[QUOTE=certified;48753848]Oh, for a second I thought we were talking about the privatized and overpriced parking meters in Chicago. Fuck those parking meters.[/QUOTE] that's what i was thinking. in any case i'm sure there will probably be a tax increase cause of this woman
[QUOTE=TheTalon;48753930]Bad call on the cop's part for sure, but I totally get why police can HATE being filmed[/QUOTE] Honestly, I don't understand why they hate being filmed. They're out in public performing a public job. It's different if they're privacy is being invaded or if the cameraperson is all in their face ala "sovereign citizen", but I think cops should be expected to be filmed. What's the negative thing about being filmed?
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48754024]if you're doing your job right you shouldn't worry about being recorded [editline]24th September 2015[/editline] almost every job in the us involves employees being constantly recorded by security cameras, why should cops be any different[/QUOTE] No they aren't; half the shit corporations get busted for is for things they intentionally stopped recording. And there's a difference between the company recording you and having people who never had a civics class and have been fed all this bullshit about 'your rights over everything' think that they can say 'I do not consent' and suddenly everyone has to stop and go, 'Oh okay'. Especially with [I]public utilities.[/I]
[QUOTE=J$ Psychotic;48754030]Honestly, I don't understand why they hate being filmed. They're out in public performing a public job. It's different if they're privacy is being invaded or if the cameraperson is all in their face ala "sovereign citizen", but I think cops should be expected to be filmed. What's the negative thing about being filmed?[/QUOTE] Because it's extremely easy to make a video of a cop doing their job look bad, all it takes is a video of a suspect being arrested without context to make things look worse than they are, and it happens, constantly.
[QUOTE=Swilly;48754038]No they aren't; half the shit corporations get busted for is for things they intentionally stopped recording. And there's a difference between the company recording you and having people who never had a civics class and have been fed all this bullshit about 'your rights over everything' think that they can say 'I do not consent' and suddenly everyone has to stop and go, 'Oh okay'. Especially with [I]public utilities.[/I][/QUOTE] So you support breaking and entering so long as a public utility company has business there? Why not do the right thing and come with a court order if it's legal? Also I encourage people to film cops, they're the only profession (other than politicians and bankers) in the entire country that aren't held accountable for most crimes they commit, even on video sometimes.
Its why I want cameras on cops. So that when these videos go out, the cops can just release the full thing.
[QUOTE=J$ Psychotic;48754030]Honestly, I don't understand why they hate being filmed. They're out in public performing a public job. It's different if they're privacy is being invaded or if the cameraperson is all in their face ala "sovereign citizen", but I think cops should be expected to be filmed. What's the negative thing about being filmed?[/QUOTE] When I worked for the Sheriff's office after my shift I would change my clothing before leaving, so when I did shopping and all that I didn't have to worry to much about stuff. Then one day I was being lazy and was tired so i just went to the store and grabbed some stuff and I don't know if it was just people being weird but this happened.. I had people looking at me and what I was buying. I grabbed some water from the cooler and the store stocked beer in the same cooler at the store I went too so it looked like I was buying beer i guess? So people where trying to look in my hand basket lol. I had people coming up to me asking me about inmates and shit, I told them any information they wanted they would have to call through officials channels. I don't release inmate information, any public information is available thru a name search on the county webpage. They would insist on me giving them information and tried to spew the whole public servant thing as if that activates the "Do whatever I say or want" clause. Some folks take pictures, other take videos and stuff. Yeah you're in uniform and a public servant but it does not mean you're totally ok with it 100 percent, to me I'm just a normal person doing a job. Just because I do this specific job does not mean that my own privacy should be violated (yeah im in public space, but still would you be cool with random people you don't know photographing and taking video for no reason?) Being a officer isn't a "public job", you can't just walk into a police station or sheriffs office and video tape controlled areas or the court house. I'm fine with cops being recorded while in a official capacity - traffic stops, public/events, doing their duties. But does not mean they need video tapes on them while just walking down the road or talking to people. Plus you never know what people are doing with that footage, there are a lot of sick people out there. It's almost like cops are celebrities in their own way - despite the job they do people think everything they do is up for public viewing and debate. Maybe im looking to much into it, i dunno. Thought this case is pretty dumb, the cop should have never given the order for an arrest. Even then from the videos the people recording where being decent and not yelling and acting like asses. They where just pissed off, but acting like normal people about it. He was working in a official capacity, it isn't like he was walking home and this woman was stalking him. Even then she was welcomed on the other person property so tough shit, gonna have to deal with the recordings. To be fair though, if all cops wore body cameras it would eliminate a lot of issues. People who are recording will be recorded themselves, people and officers are likely to behave and act properly with recorded documentation. If someone releases an edited snippet and tried to start a shitstorm the police can just release the unedited version and be like yeah sorry your full of shit. [QUOTE=RichyZ;48754024]if you're doing your job right you shouldn't worry about being recorded [editline]24th September 2015[/editline] almost every job in the us involves employees being constantly recorded by security cameras, why should cops be any different[/QUOTE] Even if you're under CCTV surveillance, it isn't public access. It is used more or less to protect the employees and employer. Even then you're on private property or gov't owned property, so the point is moot. Anyone can have cameras, what they do with it is what matters. Retail stores don't just release CCTV footage due to the legality and ethics involved. Plus your mentality is dangerous the whole "if you're doing nothing wrong, you got nothing to hide" type mentality. Do you just let people search your home and stuff cause you got nothing to hide?
Next time they should just shut off the utilities until the owner is ready to cooperate.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;48754024]if you're doing your job right you shouldn't worry about being recorded [editline]24th September 2015[/editline] almost every job in the us involves employees being constantly recorded by security cameras, why should cops be any different[/QUOTE] If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear
What's that shes saying about chronic illness? Are they doing something actually harmful like handling asbestos or are these homeowners chemtrail tinfoil nutjobs worried about wireless signals?
Aren't there legal concerns about civilians having recordings that have to do with a case in progress or whatever the proper word for that would be? Like how they had to blur peoples faces in the show "Cops" because their cases hadn't been through trial yet, and how cops aren't supposed to comment on ongoing legal matters, and so forth.
[QUOTE=Ardosos;48755169]Aren't there legal concerns about civilians having recordings that have to do with a case in progress or whatever the proper word for that would be? Like how they had to blur peoples faces in the show "Cops" because their cases hadn't been through trial yet, and how cops aren't supposed to comment on ongoing legal matters, and so forth.[/QUOTE] they dont have to blur faces if the videos were taken in a public place
[QUOTE=H4ngman;48754940]What's that shes saying about chronic illness? Are they doing something actually harmful like handling asbestos or are these homeowners chemtrail tinfoil nutjobs worried about wireless signals?[/QUOTE] Literally worried about the health effects of RF waves. Seriously, runners up for biggest retards just behind anti-vaxxers. It's also somehow always women too. I've never met an anti-vaxxer that was male, for whatever reason.
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